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"Rather than viewing information as an abstract, mathematical concept, constructor theory takes it to be fundamentally physical..."

As explained here and here, that is a fundamental mistake.

Rob McEachern

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As explained here and here, that is a fundamental mistake.

Rob McEachern

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Reality is the set of all things that exist:

Every set is a subset of the universal set:

A ⊆ U.

Reality is the subset as well as the powerset of itself:

R ⊆ R(S).

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Every set is a subset of the universal set:

A ⊆ U.

Reality is the subset as well as the powerset of itself:

R ⊆ R(S).

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about information,...

Landauer’s principle formulated in 1961 states that logical irreversibility implies physical irreversibility and demonstrated that information is physical.

The mass-energy-information equivalence principle featured

AIP Advances 9, 095206 (2019); https://doi.org/10.1063/1.5123794

Melvin M. Vopsona)

Pls Take account of those formulae

-ln(W) = ( action)/h = tν = ( mtc²)/h = (k(b) T ln(2)t)/h = (m l(P)²)/(h t(P)) = (m G)/(2πc³tP ) = (m G)/kc³ = m√(G/2πch)

""Mass, energy and movement of information are respectively dark matter, dark energy, and gravity.""

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Landauer’s principle formulated in 1961 states that logical irreversibility implies physical irreversibility and demonstrated that information is physical.

The mass-energy-information equivalence principle featured

AIP Advances 9, 095206 (2019); https://doi.org/10.1063/1.5123794

Melvin M. Vopsona)

Pls Take account of those formulae

-ln(W) = ( action)/h = tν = ( mtc²)/h = (k(b) T ln(2)t)/h = (m l(P)²)/(h t(P)) = (m G)/(2πc³tP ) = (m G)/kc³ = m√(G/2πch)

""Mass, energy and movement of information are respectively dark matter, dark energy, and gravity.""

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Hi Olivier,

Welcome on this wonderful platform. I like your ideas, I consider too the DE and DM in my model being essential , the main informations being in this space vacuum of the DE in series finite of spheres where the space disappears due to specific volumes implyimng a superfluidity for the 3 spacetimes .

At this moment we can just observe this GR. I have reached the quantum gravitation like this in considering the 3 systems merging under the codes and informations of this DE and so implying the baryonic ordinary matter and its fields and properties, the fact that the series finite of this DE encode the photons and the cold dark matter become interesting considering the motions, rotations oscillations of this serie if the number does not change and the volumes too don t change, that implies so that the densities and motions oscillations become relevant , and the deformations can be made with the symplectomorphisms preserving the volumes, it is the meaning of the tool that I have invencted the spherical topological geometrical algebras in fact.

The informations so become very important considering the 3 main systems merging more this baryonic matter like result.The evolution can be better understood considering still the DE and DM still disponible at this cosmological scale. Your equation intrigues me , I have this intuitive equation in my model considering the DM and DE encoded, E=m(c^2+Xl^2)+Y , regards

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Welcome on this wonderful platform. I like your ideas, I consider too the DE and DM in my model being essential , the main informations being in this space vacuum of the DE in series finite of spheres where the space disappears due to specific volumes implyimng a superfluidity for the 3 spacetimes .

At this moment we can just observe this GR. I have reached the quantum gravitation like this in considering the 3 systems merging under the codes and informations of this DE and so implying the baryonic ordinary matter and its fields and properties, the fact that the series finite of this DE encode the photons and the cold dark matter become interesting considering the motions, rotations oscillations of this serie if the number does not change and the volumes too don t change, that implies so that the densities and motions oscillations become relevant , and the deformations can be made with the symplectomorphisms preserving the volumes, it is the meaning of the tool that I have invencted the spherical topological geometrical algebras in fact.

The informations so become very important considering the 3 main systems merging more this baryonic matter like result.The evolution can be better understood considering still the DE and DM still disponible at this cosmological scale. Your equation intrigues me , I have this intuitive equation in my model considering the DM and DE encoded, E=m(c^2+Xl^2)+Y , regards

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I believe Olivier that all is a question of philosophy about the origin of this universe. The actual researchs inside our theoretical community consider mainly the photons osciilating vibrating and this GR. They utilise the geometrical algebras like hopf, clifford or Lie and the strings or the geometrodynamics to explain the topologies, geometries and they create extradimensions like in the strings with 10D, 11D,26D .

But at my opinion and it is just my opinion I am not better than the others, they are in a philosophical prison considering only these photons and strings in 1D at this planck scale oscillating connected with a 1D cosmic field of this GR. There are deep philosophical problems and our deepest unknowns cannot be found even with partitions with the numbers, categories, padics, non commutativity...it is mainly because they consider the fields like origin and they correlate so the informations with this.

But if our actual informations are just human invenctions like for our conputing, so we turn in round in this philosophical prison. Now if the real primoridal informations are in this space vacuum and that we must converge with the others, our actual informations in our actual computing more the photons and the dark matter, so we must rank them and try to reach these main informations of the universe from this DE. It is complex, for me the real universal quantum computing is there and not with the annealings or just waves and fields and photons. But that must converge somewhere.

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But at my opinion and it is just my opinion I am not better than the others, they are in a philosophical prison considering only these photons and strings in 1D at this planck scale oscillating connected with a 1D cosmic field of this GR. There are deep philosophical problems and our deepest unknowns cannot be found even with partitions with the numbers, categories, padics, non commutativity...it is mainly because they consider the fields like origin and they correlate so the informations with this.

But if our actual informations are just human invenctions like for our conputing, so we turn in round in this philosophical prison. Now if the real primoridal informations are in this space vacuum and that we must converge with the others, our actual informations in our actual computing more the photons and the dark matter, so we must rank them and try to reach these main informations of the universe from this DE. It is complex, for me the real universal quantum computing is there and not with the annealings or just waves and fields and photons. But that must converge somewhere.

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about origin and information .....

The initial state is a kaotic state of informational equilibrium where the surplus of information at equilibrium is translated into order therefore energy, light and sound ....and Mass this occurs following The Meissner effect (or Meissner–Ochsenfeld effect)

with new original model of the fundamental physical vacuum non-removable background. This non-removable informational background present at all scales of which information mass, energy and motion, are respectively dark matter, dark energy and gravity.

(PDF) Entropic Information Theory. Available from: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/356378350_Entropic_

Information_Theory [accessed Nov 30 2021].

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The initial state is a kaotic state of informational equilibrium where the surplus of information at equilibrium is translated into order therefore energy, light and sound ....and Mass this occurs following The Meissner effect (or Meissner–Ochsenfeld effect)

with new original model of the fundamental physical vacuum non-removable background. This non-removable informational background present at all scales of which information mass, energy and motion, are respectively dark matter, dark energy and gravity.

(PDF) Entropic Information Theory. Available from: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/356378350_Entropic_

Information_Theory [accessed Nov 30 2021].

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to be more accurate about the previous post and formulae,....

I=-ln(W)=( action)/h= tν =( mtc²)/h=(k(b) T ln(2)t)/h=(m l(P)²)/(h t(P))=(m G)/(2πc³tP )=(m G)/kc³= m√(G/2πch)

Where:

I: information

W, Ω: number of ways the atoms or molecules of how a thermodynamic system can be arranged

the number of arrangements that are counted by Boltzmann entropy reflects the amount of Shannon information that would be needed to implement any particular arrangement of matter and energy

w, Ω number of complexions of the system or number of configurations

Action: E*t

t: time

ν: frequency

m: mass

c: Speed of light in vacuum 299792458 m⋅s−1 ((exact by definition)

h: Planck constant defined as 6.62607015×10−34 J⋅s exactly)

Kb: Boltzmann constant 1.38064 ×10-23 J/K

T: temperature at which the bit of information is stored

lp: Planck length 1.616255(18)×10−35 m

tp: Planck time 5.391247(60)×10−44 s

G: gravitational constant 6,674 30(15) × 10−11 m3 kg−1 s−2

k: wavenumber as 2 π /λ

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it s about Entropic Information Theory and quantum Gravity

information is the code and

""the code is what create the process but is itself too the process""

"BIT FROM BIT"

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I=-ln(W)=( action)/h= tν =( mtc²)/h=(k(b) T ln(2)t)/h=(m l(P)²)/(h t(P))=(m G)/(2πc³tP )=(m G)/kc³= m√(G/2πch)

Where:

I: information

W, Ω: number of ways the atoms or molecules of how a thermodynamic system can be arranged

the number of arrangements that are counted by Boltzmann entropy reflects the amount of Shannon information that would be needed to implement any particular arrangement of matter and energy

w, Ω number of complexions of the system or number of configurations

Action: E*t

t: time

ν: frequency

m: mass

c: Speed of light in vacuum 299792458 m⋅s−1 ((exact by definition)

h: Planck constant defined as 6.62607015×10−34 J⋅s exactly)

Kb: Boltzmann constant 1.38064 ×10-23 J/K

T: temperature at which the bit of information is stored

lp: Planck length 1.616255(18)×10−35 m

tp: Planck time 5.391247(60)×10−44 s

G: gravitational constant 6,674 30(15) × 10−11 m3 kg−1 s−2

k: wavenumber as 2 π /λ

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it s about Entropic Information Theory and quantum Gravity

information is the code and

""the code is what create the process but is itself too the process""

"BIT FROM BIT"

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""explain us how these informations take a mass""

The Meissner effect is one of the defining properties of superconductivity and its discovery established that the appearance of superconductivity is a phase transition.

Magnetic field lines are excluded from a superconductor when it is below its critical temperature.

This exclusion of the magnetic field is a manifestation of the superdiamagnetism that appeared during the phase transition from the conductor to the superconductor, for example by lowering the temperature below the critical temperature.

Meissner's superconductivity effect serves as an important paradigm for the mechanism for generating mass M

λ (M)= h/Mc

In fact, this analogy is an abelian example of the Higgs mechanism, which generates the electroweak masses W ± and Z to gauge particles in high energy physics.

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The Meissner effect is one of the defining properties of superconductivity and its discovery established that the appearance of superconductivity is a phase transition.

Magnetic field lines are excluded from a superconductor when it is below its critical temperature.

This exclusion of the magnetic field is a manifestation of the superdiamagnetism that appeared during the phase transition from the conductor to the superconductor, for example by lowering the temperature below the critical temperature.

Meissner's superconductivity effect serves as an important paradigm for the mechanism for generating mass M

λ (M)= h/Mc

In fact, this analogy is an abelian example of the Higgs mechanism, which generates the electroweak masses W ± and Z to gauge particles in high energy physics.

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this we know you repeat things known, you have not answered about the foundamental objects and how the informations appear philosophically, from what we exist, do you consider god or a mathe3matical accident and why and do you consider that before this hypothetical BB it was an infinite heat for example and why, and after if it is this, how the photons if you consider only this GT=R have been coded , I need concrete philosophical developments, not things repeted fronm wickipedia, think by yourself, tell us , be frank about the philosophy of origin, for the nhiggs we need to know more about these mechanisms , fruthermore the missing mass is not explained with the higgs alone, so I repeat what are this general philosophy, be frank, what creates these informations

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The Meissner is just about phases in magnetic fields at critical temperatures giving a supraconductivity, nothing os special , it is just an effect at precises temperature and precise fields , it is just a transition nof phases, nothing of odd

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""I believe Olivier that all is a question of philosophy about the origin of this universe. The actual researchs inside our theoretical community consider mainly the photons osciilating vibrating and this GR. They utilise the geometrical algebras like hopf, clifford or Lie and the strings or the geometrodynamics to explain the topologies, geometries and they create extradimensions like in the...

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This bears some resemblance to my statement from 2014 on these forums, reality is time symmetric.

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first of all, we must be agree on the definition of information used,.....

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as information it is a quantum state change due to the modification of one degree of freedom of the considered quantum system...

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For this quantic way to describe the information concept, we have gone further into the exploration of the notion of information viewed here as the fundamental building block of the universe, the entangled quantum information.

By introducing, the mass-energy-information equivalence principle already enonced by Melvin Vopson into some famous equations in physics such as the Hidden thermodynamic of Louis de Broglie formula, the classical entropy formulation, the Bekenstein-Hawking entropy formula, the bekenstein bound, or even certain works of Casini, the entropic Information theory shed light on new global perspectives.

www.entropicinformation.space.

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as information it is a quantum state change due to the modification of one degree of freedom of the considered quantum system...

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For this quantic way to describe the information concept, we have gone further into the exploration of the notion of information viewed here as the fundamental building block of the universe, the entangled quantum information.

By introducing, the mass-energy-information equivalence principle already enonced by Melvin Vopson into some famous equations in physics such as the Hidden thermodynamic of Louis de Broglie formula, the classical entropy formulation, the Bekenstein-Hawking entropy formula, the bekenstein bound, or even certain works of Casini, the entropic Information theory shed light on new global perspectives.

www.entropicinformation.space.

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Hi Olivier, like you know I have read your works and I respect like I said your attempts. Philosophically we need indeed main primary informations and we must define them .We have invented the binary codes and the informations for the computing and with the boolean algebras and algorythms we evolve for this computing. If now we consider how the informations act to create this universe, it becomes...

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this dynamical energetical fluid of this DE seems the key for the main informations.....and it is like a fifth force and probably permit the encoding of photons and the CDM for our standard model , it is like an energy of negative pressure permitting to balance the gravitational 2 other systems. It is not that the works of einstein about the GR is not correlct but not complete and that we must simply relativate our observations and foundamentals causing the ordinary matter. It is like I said that newton and einstein were right in their referentials but generally and universally we need to complete this gravitation with this negative pressure of this dynamical energetical antigravitational fluid.

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""Hi Olivier, like you know I have read your works and I respect like I said your attempts. Philosophically we need indeed main primary informations and we must define them"

in the Superfluid vacuum theory (SVT), sometimes known as the BEC vacuum theory, is an approach in theoretical physics and quantum mechanics where the fundamental physical vacuum (non-removable background) is viewed as superfluid or as a Bose-Einstein condensate (BEC). a new model for the aether according to which it is a superfluid state of fermion and anti-fermion pairs, describable by a macroscopic wave function. With small fluctuations of superfluid background obey the Lorentz symmetry, even if the superfluid itself is non-relativistic.

The initial state is a kaotic state of informational equilibrium where the surplus of information at equilibrium is translated into order therefore energy, light and sound ....and Mass

this occurs following The Meissner effect (or Meissner–Ochsenfeld effect)

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in the Superfluid vacuum theory (SVT), sometimes known as the BEC vacuum theory, is an approach in theoretical physics and quantum mechanics where the fundamental physical vacuum (non-removable background) is viewed as superfluid or as a Bose-Einstein condensate (BEC). a new model for the aether according to which it is a superfluid state of fermion and anti-fermion pairs, describable by a macroscopic wave function. With small fluctuations of superfluid background obey the Lorentz symmetry, even if the superfluid itself is non-relativistic.

The initial state is a kaotic state of informational equilibrium where the surplus of information at equilibrium is translated into order therefore energy, light and sound ....and Mass

this occurs following The Meissner effect (or Meissner–Ochsenfeld effect)

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