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Sociallyview: on 7/22/21 at 19:51pm UTC, wrote very nice

Steve Dufourny: on 7/18/21 at 20:19pm UTC, wrote why many equations foundamental in physics consider this time ? the...

Jim Snowdon: on 7/18/21 at 19:33pm UTC, wrote What makes you think time is any different than extra dimensions? Is...

Steve Dufourny: on 7/18/21 at 18:53pm UTC, wrote yes I know but that does not change that this time exists. It is an...

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Nicholas I. Hosein wrote on Jul. 13, 2021 @ 20:00 GMT
I wrote a thread while ^ in 2014 on sciforums called "causal relationships and the light cone." Apparently reality is a path integral was an intruiging notion. Apparently the question should ask whether time passage is real or imaginary and if so what role does consciousness and motion play in time passage? Is time a product of consciousness and motion?

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Jim George Snowdon wrote on Jul. 14, 2021 @ 12:02 GMT
Hi Nicholas,

In my view time does not exist as a real thing or force. Instead, we have periods of duration elapsing. Our clocks do not measure time passing, they measure duration elapsing.

We assume that time exists as a real thing or force, because we evolved on this swiftly rotating planet. The ceaseless, overwhelming, daily cyclical effects of our rotational motion has conditioned our cognitive grasp of the nature of time. We do not consciously perceive time passing, we consciously perceive duration elapsing.

You ask, "Is time a product of consciousness and motion?" Yes!

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Steve Dufourny replied on Jul. 16, 2021 @ 12:37 GMT
maybe time is just correlated with the motions and we perceive it with our consciousness, even if we don t exist and are not conscious of this time, that does not change the universal clocks and its motions and so its time.....the time is a parameter important , because without time we have no motions, and if we have no motions so we have no interactions and without interactions, we have no matter and energy. The special relativity is a tool permitting to rank the evolution of our universe because we see our past in observing the space and more we go far , more we go far in the past like we see our sun 8 min in late. Now don t forget that we must relativate all this because the GR and the SR are for observations and the mass and the nergy but they are not probably the only one piece of puzzle, in resume we are not just made of photons oscillating in logic. The time is not odd and seems a pure parameter irreversible entropically speakingnon the arrow of time.

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Jim George Snowdon replied on Jul. 16, 2021 @ 14:10 GMT
Hi Steve,

As evidenced by FQXi`s holding their first essay contest in 2008 on the nature of time, there is no proof that time exists.

If we can`t say what time might be made up of, how could we say, "without time we have no motions, and if we have no motions so we have no interactions and without interactions, we have no matter and energy." ?

In my view, we have motions in our timeless Universe.

What makes you think that time exists as some kind of real thing or force? What makes you think that time is a thing or force that is necessary? Why would we need it?

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Steve Dufourny replied on Jul. 16, 2021 @ 15:22 GMT
I don t consider it like a force but this thing exists like a parameter, without time, you don t exist, and the universe is not timeless, we have a begining and an evolution, if now you correlate with the eternity or philosophically with sonething coding and transforming the energy mathematically of spiritually, it is still the same , we are inside a finite evolutive system where the time is correlated with the motions and where we have an irreversibility

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Sociallyview wrote on Jul. 22, 2021 @ 19:51 GMT
very nice

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