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June 25, 2022

CATEGORY: Blog [back]
TOPIC: An Opinionated Introduction to Phenomenology by Jeff Yoshimi [refresh]
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Blogger Johannes Kleiner wrote on Aug. 22, 2020 @ 18:43 GMT
Phenomenology studies the structure and dynamics of conscious experience. Sincxe its inception in the early 20th century, hundreds of thousands of pages of detailed phenomenological analysis have been produced. In the last few decades this work has been increasingly integrated with the cognitive sciences, via "neuro-phenomenology" and "naturalized phenomenology". I advocate an approach to phenomenology which treats it as a vast database of hypotheses about consciousness, subject to rejection, revision, and refinement on the basis of contact with other work in the cognitive sciences. I give an opinionated overview of the field, focusing on several lines of research I believe to be especially promising. First, a "field theory of consciousness" according to which experiences are organized into a central "theme" surrounded by two kinds of peripheral structure (a "thematic field" and a "margin"). Second, a theory of "horizons" according to which we never experience objects in isolation, but only relative to an implicit sense of possible ways they could manifest themselves in further experience. By explicating or "unfolding" these horizons we can introspectively "model" our sense of an object, and ultimately our sense of the world as whole. These phenomenological models can be linked to computational and behavioral studies of agents in environments.

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Jason Mark Wolfe wrote on Aug. 22, 2020 @ 20:00 GMT
Our souls are like those 26 dimensional superstrings that theorists imagine. But when it's time to reincarnate, those 26 dimensional souls get shoved into a 3D physical body.

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Jason Mark Wolfe wrote on Aug. 23, 2020 @ 06:21 GMT
Let's be honest. The science community is not going to confirm or validate anything like a soul or an afterlife. If they had that kind of information, they would use it to make our lives even less bearable!

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Steve Dufourny replied on Aug. 23, 2020 @ 13:30 GMT
Hi Jason, a part of thinkers in physics have their own ideas but it is not really well seen to speak about this, and we must admit that it is complicated to affirm and be sure, we cannot prove or explain this, I beleive that we have indeed a kind of body mind soul problem, and we must to encircle this really understand the planck scale or the main codes , our main uniqueness if it exists, we have too much limitations, it is the same with the meaning of God if it exists, we cannot prove if a thing codes the informations, all what we can is just discuss in trying to respect the determinism and it becomes pure philosophy. Nobody knows all this, like I told you I beleive that yes there is a continuity and we encode just foundamental things and we forget others, like sortings but how can we affirm these things? They are just assumptions.

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Jason Mark Wolfe replied on Aug. 23, 2020 @ 23:41 GMT
Okay Steve,

If turning your back on God brings you healing, then do that! But I still look at the Periodic table, at the standard model, and it looks to me like the universe is Intelligently Designed. I have also had experiences with the Deity. So, I don't know what to tell you.

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Steve Dufourny replied on Aug. 24, 2020 @ 10:14 GMT
don t be persuaded about your thoughts but doubt, I can just tell you this, you are persuaded about the republican patriotism and the catholicism , and your interpretation of God like if they were the only one truth, but don t forget that it is just in your head due to your education, your encoding of informations and your adaptation in your environments, but of I can, nor the catholicism and the bible have been proved like a truth, nor the fact that the republicans and the pure capitalism and the production of arms have been proved by the universe like foundamental , nor the fact that in praying god we can be healed, sorry but it is a truth, so now, like you are a human, your vanity and the fact that you are persuaded irritates you , you know we are all like that us the humans, we are persuaded and vanitious and irritated when the others think differently, me also you know, but a sure thing, we can never affirm assumptions, we must doubt simply, so doubt or try to prove what you affirm or what is true in your mind .

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Steve Agnew wrote on Aug. 26, 2020 @ 04:23 GMT
I am loving this shift of consciousness into free is Yoshimi's shift to free choice...

Phenomenology studies the structure and dynamics of free choice. Since its inception in the early 20th century, hundreds of thousands of pages of detailed phenomenological analysis have been produced. In the last few decades this work has been increasingly integrated with the...

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Jason Mark Wolfe replied on Aug. 26, 2020 @ 04:59 GMT
Can you simplify this to something that a child would understand? I see FREE CHOICE x2, and then something about "choking a wolf". I don't recognize anything that has to do with the common experiences of human beings.

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Steve Agnew replied on Aug. 29, 2020 @ 21:19 GMT
Good comment...philosophy makes a living by being obscure, but philosophy does ask useful questions.

Yoshimi's example of Husserl's method for cooking a meal may be enlightening. The central theme would then be in cooking a meal and then his thematic fields would be in chopping zucchini, then onions, and so on. Each thematic field would become central theme during the activity and would involve all of those experiences.

These are Husserl's familiar experiences of an articulated theme and the result of the central articulated theme is then very predictable...eating a meal...and therefore this is not much of a learning experience. The horizon of such a theme then relates all of the experiences.

During the central theme of cooking a meal, there are also a set of margins like music playing in the background. These margins Husserl calls our empty horizon, which seems like a strange name. The unexpected comes from the empty horizon and much greater learning because a new song my actually take over the moment and make us forget about cooking for some moments.

Just like any philosopher, Yoshimi then says that Husserl's field theory may or may not be useful for AI. It may explicate (i.e. explain) our sense of an object...somehow, philosophy never does really explicate anything, but it is fun anyway...

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