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**basudeba mishra**: *on* 5/29/20 at 16:50pm UTC, wrote Thank you Sir, I will go through your essay. Regards, basudeba

**basudeba mishra**: *on* 5/29/20 at 16:47pm UTC, wrote Dear Sir, TRUTH IS ONE ONLY. ALL OTHERS ARE APPARENT - NOT REAL.

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**basudeba mishra**: *on* 3/27/20 at 2:42am UTC, wrote Extending abstract linear propositions not bound by the strict principles...

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TOPIC: LIMITS OF “LIMIT”. INCOMPLETENESS, UNDECIDABILITY & NON-COMPUTABLE VALUES: IMPLICATIONS IN QUANTUM PHYSICS by basudeba mishra [refresh]

TOPIC: LIMITS OF “LIMIT”. INCOMPLETENESS, UNDECIDABILITY & NON-COMPUTABLE VALUES: IMPLICATIONS IN QUANTUM PHYSICS by basudeba mishra [refresh]

Everything in the universe is interrelated and interdependent. The laws of physics are same everywhere. The macro and the micro replicate each other. By properly correlating them, we can know about each other. Completeness must be viewed in that context. Incompleteness is the reductionist approach – hence limited in scope. Extending information on part to the whole leads to confusion. Language is the transposition of information to another system/person’s CPU/mind by signals/sound using energy. Mathematical equations transpose SCALAR QUANTITATIVE ASPECT of information only. Thus mathematics is a language only for quantitative aspects of Nature. Physics is mostly vector - hence not confined to mathematics only. Equations in math are different from those of physics and imply special conditions for interaction. Exchanging both (as in renormalization or brute-force approach) is like extending limited information to build abstract models without the restrictions imposed on them by rules of the physical world. This leads to incompleteness issues. The validity of a mathematical statement is judged by its logical consistency. The validity of a physical statement is judged by its correspondence to reality. The way math is now being done is incomplete and inconsistent. The problem is with dualism of bivalent logic of propositional calculus or sentential logic that leads to incompleteness based on linearity. Mathematics deals with scalar numbers. Physics is all about interactions, which makes it vector. Scalars and Vectors do not follow the same math rules. This dualism must be sublimated within formal systems by logically consistent reasoning - both mathematical and physical. Napier’s logarithms, Hilbert’s problems, Gödel’s negative solution and Wigner’s Unreasonable effectiveness of mathematics - all tend to limit the limits of probability in formal theories. They arise out of improper extension or non-inclusion of sectoral issues with consequential implications in fundamental interactions and other theories in physics.

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Hello Basudeba, Happy to see you on this Contest, congrats for your ideas, regards

I am going to make it also maybe , we have some Days to do it with Ulla Mattfolk,friendly

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Wonderful words My dear old friend basudeba mishra sab,

" Equations in math are different from those of physics and imply special conditions for interaction."

I know our thinking goes in similar fashion, why dont you see my essay “A properly deciding, Computing and Predicting new theory’s Philosophy” and confirm your self???

I am waiting for your post on my essay....

Best Regards

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" Equations in math are different from those of physics and imply special conditions for interaction."

I know our thinking goes in similar fashion, why dont you see my essay “A properly deciding, Computing and Predicting new theory’s Philosophy” and confirm your self???

I am waiting for your post on my essay....

Best Regards

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Extending abstract linear propositions not bound by the strict principles of causality to formulate physical theories that are non-linear and causal, is a problem of mathematical physics. Generalizing the part to cover the whole is against natural principles. It works in scalar numbers, which follow a general principle for accumulation and reduction. But it won’t work in physics, where the...

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Dear Basudeba,

A very important essay and deepen ideas. Especially important is a journey to the origins of mathematics. But it seems to me that in order to establish the limits of the “limit” in the broadest sense, it is necessary to add the deepest ontology. But ontology is also in crisis. Crazy ontological ideas are needed.

Good luck!

Respectfully,

Vladimir

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A very important essay and deepen ideas. Especially important is a journey to the origins of mathematics. But it seems to me that in order to establish the limits of the “limit” in the broadest sense, it is necessary to add the deepest ontology. But ontology is also in crisis. Crazy ontological ideas are needed.

Good luck!

Respectfully,

Vladimir

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Dear basudeba

Glad to read your work again.

I greatly appreciated your work and discussion. I am very glad that you are not thinking in abstract patterns.

"The laws of physics are same everywhere. The macro and the micro replicate each other".

While the discussion lasted, I wrote an article: “Practical guidance on calculating resonant frequencies at four levels of diagnosis and inactivation of COVID-19 coronavirus”, due to the high relevance of this topic. The work is based on the practical solution of problems in quantum mechanics, presented in the essay FQXi 2019-2020 “Universal quantum laws of the universe to solve the problems of unsolvability, computability and unpredictability”.

I hope that my modest results of work will provide you with information for thought.

Warm Regards, `

Vladimir

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Glad to read your work again.

I greatly appreciated your work and discussion. I am very glad that you are not thinking in abstract patterns.

"The laws of physics are same everywhere. The macro and the micro replicate each other".

While the discussion lasted, I wrote an article: “Practical guidance on calculating resonant frequencies at four levels of diagnosis and inactivation of COVID-19 coronavirus”, due to the high relevance of this topic. The work is based on the practical solution of problems in quantum mechanics, presented in the essay FQXi 2019-2020 “Universal quantum laws of the universe to solve the problems of unsolvability, computability and unpredictability”.

I hope that my modest results of work will provide you with information for thought.

Warm Regards, `

Vladimir

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Dear Basudeba,

Are you a seeker of my Truth?, or a general consensus truth, or your own truth?

Cheers

Lockie Cresswell

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Are you a seeker of my Truth?, or a general consensus truth, or your own truth?

Cheers

Lockie Cresswell

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