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Quantum Supremacy is theoretically relevant to quantum computing, and by extension also to security encryption and decryption. But as a practical matter, what value can be had in application to countering the long game of the Chinese.

While western leadership is obsessed with 5G, and and thus that sector getting the lion's share of funding and hence participation by Quants; 5G is only the...

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Quantum Supremacy is theoretically relevant to quantum computing, and by extension also to security encryption and decryption. But as a practical matter, what value can be had in application to countering the long game of the Chinese.

While western leadership is obsessed with 5G, and and thus that sector getting the lion's share of funding and hence participation by Quants; 5G is only the ground based, local element in the Chinese strategic long game which western, and in particular American, policy fails to recognize and has done nothing to meet the challenge. Nor will it without capable and convincing efforts by the Quantum Community to compel the current administration to accept that the Chinese QUESS program has already achieved a "significant sequence of singlet pair production" and transmitted video via Quantum Key Encryption between its (massive) research facility near Beijing and its partner lab in Vienna.

The scientific community can tear its hair out and complain that climate science is falling on deaf ears til the ice caps melt, and it will not accomplish anything unless they learn the stern lessons of Political Science. To wit: Deregulation and promotion of the fossil fuel industry is done for the purpose of sustaining the U.S. dollar as the World Reserve Currency because oil trades on the dollar! Politicians MUST be made to understand that global QKE will fundamentally change the economic map. While it could be interrupted but without the ability to 'read' the spin state characteristic, it is none the less at the practical level of you using your credit card, 'unhackable' for all intents and purposes. Once in place and functioning, there would not be any financial institution in the world that will sit still for Interruption Countermeasures by any national or non-state player.

In short, to get their attention to the urgency of meeting the challenge of QUESS, the Quantum Community must impress upon politicians that whomever gets a functional Space Based and Ground Based QKE system up and working will corner the market on global electronic transfer of funds. And that nation's currency will become the world's preferred reserve currency!

Get real folks. Kill two birds with one stone (or singlet pair). The age of oil is over. Whatever one wants to think of Quantum Mechanics, until something better comes along, we live in a Quantum Political World.

But have a Happy Holidays, anyway. You owe it to yourselves. best jrc

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Thanks Georgi, for the Season's Greeting. And to All.

Sorry to beleaguer the discussion stumping on political grounds in the tweeds of an Economist, but...

The point about the oil markets sustaining the U.S. dollar as the World Reserve Currency cannot be understated. It is only due to the dollar being the go-to world benchmark that keeps the U.S. the dominant world economy despite...

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Thanks Georgi, for the Season's Greeting. And to All.

Sorry to beleaguer the discussion stumping on political grounds in the tweeds of an Economist, but...

The point about the oil markets sustaining the U.S. dollar as the World Reserve Currency cannot be understated. It is only due to the dollar being the go-to world benchmark that keeps the U.S. the dominant world economy despite being the world's greatest debtor nation. If the dollar is supplanted by another currency, even a non-state crypto, the U.S. economy would rapidly sink under the weight of its accumulated. combined national debt and a host of other ills in consequence of half a century of consumerism and a political and social complacency that accepts as an economic base that 7/10 of the economy floats on private consumer debt, rather than production credit.

The Chinese have publicly given notice of their QKE development and are poised to have a fleet of twenty satellites deployed. Implementing ground stations could be accomplished by proxy acquisition of start-up and small tech companies with a physical address to install a rooftop QKE transceiver. It could conceivably be completed within a decade.

If the U.S. doesn't have a secret R&D QKE program approaching feasible implementation, it would require a crash program at a modern scale equivalent to the Manhattan Project to catch up. And it would have to do the same thing; import the science and much of the necessary raw material needed to mass produce the hi-tech hardware. The common core public school curriculum initiated by FDR's New Deal and made robust by Eisenhower produced the native talent that spawned Silicon Valley. But in promoting 50 years of consumer complacency, the accompanying Republican "red Wave" has degenerated the public schools into plodding pedagogy of local identity politics. And Republicans are always the first to throw in the towel to demands of the financial industry. If QKE is implemented by an adversarial state the U.S. financial institutions would fight each other for content blocs. Economists whom are old China hands have said that the current administration doesn't worry the ChiCom, they know what to expect and could retaliate much more heavily than they have. They recognize the trade war to be a domestic political publicity stunt that punishes U.S. allies with few tariff exemptions granted those nations while exemptions for Chinese imports are being ladelled out on a geometric curve that would exhaust following the 2020 election. Which suits the Chinese just fine, its U.S. allies, especially Canada whom are investing heavily in quantum theoretical research (PI among others), yet whom the GOP is blaming for their own failure of foresight and leadership. And if U.S. leadership fails to meet the challenge of QKE implementation, it will take western democracy down with it. Its not the first time in history that Uncle Sam has scared his partners.

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Dr. Lloyd,

suppose, Seth, that there is a 'nasty quasi-particle' that is the inside of decoherence, and that it is rarely not there and only momentarily then. QM originally does not pretend to realism, non-local or otherwise. So lets treat that as a convenient methodology simply of measurement, and one that still lacks a quantum gravitational rationale as Michele suggests must emerge in any...

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Dr. Lloyd,

suppose, Seth, that there is a 'nasty quasi-particle' that is the inside of decoherence, and that it is rarely not there and only momentarily then. QM originally does not pretend to realism, non-local or otherwise. So lets treat that as a convenient methodology simply of measurement, and one that still lacks a quantum gravitational rationale as Michele suggests must emerge in any genuine understanding of entanglement. It might not be so spooky after all. Perhaps there is a hidden variable staring us in the face which we don't see because it is so close while we search far afield and are not asking the right question.

Theoretically (as a Theory) SR is mathematically complete, but math is its own form of logic and rhetoric used in heuristic and metaphysical argument is another. 'Omission' is a categorical fallacy in logic and often is easily missed simply because something has been omitted. In the famous gedanken of Einstein riding on a beam of light and realizing Time *stops* the immediate objection is that 'it doesn't stop for the rest of the world'. But mathematically that is not a omission, but leads to Minkowski's 4D spacetime and Blocktime wherein reside to nasty paradoxes. That itself is not an argument for there being an omission in SR because SR is 2D measurement of uniform motion and thus quadratic. But obviously there is an omission somewhere.

The omission is in the gedanken, and its the same omission as in the QM scheme of things that conjures space and time emerge from the movement of particles. In the Light Ride, time would only 'stop' if light speed were the limit to the rate of passage of time, yet that would necessitate that time is passing at light velocity everywhere the the light is passing through. The same problem evades notice in the origin of the Spin co-ordinate system yet suggestively reveals itself as superposition in coherence. Yep, in that 3D+T measurement scheme, time is everywhere going at light speed.

As the old Folk saying goes, "Them dawgs don't hunt!" And that's the correct question. How would a particle find a distance it goes, if it doesn't hunt for what rate time passes at the speed its going. And if a particle, or a distance of space, or a span of time must hunt for the rate of passage of time, then it can only be somewhere between nil and light velocity, anywhere. And the dawg's gotta sniff out the change of rate continuously. Therefore the limit to the rate at which the dawg can hunt would have to exceed light velocity by an exponential factor of light velocity, for a particle to decohere from a light velocity energy state to a rest state of mass. So it naturally follows that we measure light velocity as a constant, and can only find that constant measurement because light velocity is the root exponential mean of the limit rate the hunting can reach. And so by transformation to distance in relation to the mass of the nasty quasi-particle, that limit rate would be the spatial limit of gravitational domain, not infinity.

I've occasionally raised ire by pointing out that anything going at light velocity would exhibit a characteristic of physical rigidity. A Protester for Democracy in Hong Kong certainly wouldn't characterize being hit by a water canon as non-rigid. So entanglement may be a rigid physical connection between two (not necessarily perfectly identical) particles decohered as a pair in a quantum singlet state, and the limit of relative separability while vastly in excess of light velocity separability would be equivalent with the cumulative exponential rate of hunting the rate of the speed of time. That would encompass a large volume of space containing lots of bits of information of particles all hunting for scale of their own. That would be a lot more capacity then we could know what to do with. La Convivencia, jrc

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Here's a thought, Loraine,

Your long programming experience provides you with much knowledge of using algorithms from the side of the interface that is interpretive in the rhetorical sense, and in my experience approaching symbolic logic in rhetoric is much more intuitive and easily grasped than the abstraction of symbolic logic in math. And the symbology in programme languages (PL) is not...

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Here's a thought, Loraine,

Your long programming experience provides you with much knowledge of using algorithms from the side of the interface that is interpretive in the rhetorical sense, and in my experience approaching symbolic logic in rhetoric is much more intuitive and easily grasped than the abstraction of symbolic logic in math. And the symbology in programme languages (PL) is not the same usage as the same symbols used in machine languages (ML). Programme language does instruct the process to find a result but the machine doesn't 'follow instruction' it simply computes, The proxy script that could be said to interpret the instruction is a licensed http from the manufacturer that compiles the bit-sequences of the PL to be compatible with the bit-sequences of the ML and that is in sequestered circuitry of the operating system; which only then shunts inputs to the primary microprocessor with its chip architecture symbiotically designed with the ML. Each family of microprocessor made by each manufacturer has its own proprietary bit-sequence machine (code) language (ML) and all it does is math operations. The symbiotic design of the chip is a physical algebraic operating system.

So here might be a helpful illustration in your efforts to make the leap from rhetoric to abstraction. Consider what a continuous function does;

take a piece of graph paper and draw on a X and Y axis with origin about mid sheet. Surround that with a smooth asymmetrical loop and put a dot anywhere on it. NOW... you can find three more dots on that loop that will be the corners of a perfectly square rectangle. A continuous function works like this; if you move any one of those dots (and stick with that dot as the initial point) the other dots can be moved on the loop to retain a rectangular shape though the area of the rectangle will change and the opposing long and short sides might interchange. But there will be an algorithmic equation that can plot the location of all the dots with the progress of movement of the initial point. And you can trace that initial point all around the loop to return to its initial position, and plot out the full algorithm of x,y coordinates and that is essentially how the primary processor finds your answer. Because it does the same thing for loops with different contours of various queries made by the search engine out there in the operating system, and it will continue running the loop of your request until it finds the best match of rectangles in the query loops. That is a classical computer.

Cheery Holidays, I should probably clean my apartment. jrc

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