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TOPIC: Fundamental is a relative concept by Priyanka Giri [refresh]
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Author Priyanka Giri wrote on Jan. 26, 2018 @ 16:21 GMT
Essay Abstract

Fundamental has been there since the beginning of humanity and we are so familiar with it that we don’t even give it a second thought as to what it means. It has been around as a concept for objects like black holes and quarks but due its diversity in many fields, it seems like we have more than one fundamental entity and no one is absolute. It depends on various parameters like size, geometry, and time. In this essay, we will see through what, and how, it is associated with our familiar concepts.

Author Bio

Priyanka Giri is a masters student in Astronomy and Astrophysics at University of Inssnbruck under the Astromundus programme. Her research interests are in gravitational waves and quantum gravity. She has a deep interest in the philosophy of physics and is particularly intrigued by the nature of time. She is trying to see the her philosophy in a mathematical way. This is her first FQXi essay

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Francesco D'Isa wrote on Jan. 27, 2018 @ 13:00 GMT
Dear Priyanka,

you was right, there are indeed similarities: your approach is more empirical, mine logic, and your conclusion more epistemological while my ontological – but we have many points in common. I appreciated reading your nice text, I wish you luck!

bests,

Francesco D'Isa

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Author Priyanka Giri replied on Jan. 29, 2018 @ 09:23 GMT
Dear Francesco D'Isa,

Thank you for reading my essay. Your logic for explaining that nothing is fundamental was good.

Thanks for your wishes. I too, wish you luck!

Best,

Priyanka

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Branko L Zivlak wrote on Jan. 27, 2018 @ 23:55 GMT
Dear Pryanka

If you are trying to see philosophy in a mathematical way you will see very little in this contest. If I were young like you, I would read Newton, Bošković and Planck, again, again and again. This is a very nice and accurate way to show the attachment of time to the existence of matter:

„For example, for particles like photons, there is no notion of time. If we don’t have anything but photons, will there still be time? Maybe not! Then, our concept of defining reality/universe will be wrong. But again, if big bang theory is true, there has been a time when there were only particles travelling with the speed of light. Then, maybe we are safe to assume that there has been no notion of time. And, in the theory of tachyons, what kind of time will there be? We can’t say but then we can’t conclude about the concepts/laws we derive.“

Yes, the Big Bang Theory is not true and the concept of time is related to the existence of complex particles, primarily proton.

Good essay, congratulations.

Regards,

Branko

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Author Priyanka Giri replied on Jan. 29, 2018 @ 09:29 GMT
Dear Branko L Zivlak ,

Thank you for taking out your time for reading my essay. It’s true that in this contest, their is more philosophical work than mathematical. According to Big Bang theory , you can have time in the beginning of universe. The nature of Time is very interesting and I don’t understand what does time really means. I would like to know if you have any new insight in this regard.

Thanks for your appreciation and wishes.

Best,

Priyanka

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Dizhechko Boris Semyonovich wrote on Jan. 28, 2018 @ 17:42 GMT
PRIYANKA GIRI, you demonstrate excellent logic, and you will make a good researcher. To be even more successful, you need to get to know the new Cartesian physics. Read my essay in which I showed how radically modern physics can change if we use the principle of the identity of space and matter of Descartes. I'll put you a rating after you comment on new Cartesian physics. . When Copernicus began to assert that the Earth revolves around the Sun, he had, according to Descartes, to add that along with the Earth around the Sun, the entire circumsolar space rotates.

 Sincerely, Dizhechko Boris Semyonovich.

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Author Priyanka Giri replied on Jan. 29, 2018 @ 09:33 GMT
Dear Dizhechko Boris Semyonovich,

Thank you for your appreciation for my skills. I have bookmarked your essay and will read soon. The modern Cartesian physics looks interesting. We can discuss it.

Best,

Priyanka

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Dizhechko Boris Semyonovich replied on Jan. 30, 2018 @ 07:56 GMT
Priyanka Giri, it is known that Cartesian physics was in Europe before Newton. Then it was replaced by classical physics, which was created by the followers of Newton. In classical physics, there was no need for the space of identical matter; it allowed only its fullness with the mythological ether, rejected by Michelson's experiments and the theory of relativity. Then they began to believe that the space was filled with electromagnetic fields or with a physical vacuum. Now in science there are representatives of all these ideas about space. There is no one who thinks like Descartes that space is matter, and the rest of everything is his condition.

Descartes believed that there is no emptiness in space. If they are formed according to the will of God, they collapse instantly. According to modern concepts, voids in space are slammed at the speed of light, i.e. the holes in space exist and they are the motivators of its movement. This is new in the physics of Descartes and allows us to talk about new Cartesian physics (continued on my page)

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Ajay Pokhrel wrote on Feb. 4, 2018 @ 06:30 GMT
Hello Priyanka,

Well written essay! Your essay is what defines different topics we can see in this contest. Indeed fundamental is relative to the observer. I think Mathematics is fundamental as my essay says, some say physical laws are fundamental, some say time is fundamental and some say everything is an illusion.

You define time as relative which I think is the best part of the essay (regarding photons and the big bang). I wish you good luck with your essay and invite to discuss my essay(only high school student in this competition)

Kind Regards

Ajay Pokharel

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Author Priyanka Giri replied on Feb. 6, 2018 @ 12:32 GMT
Dear Ajay,

Thanks for reading my essay. And sorry for this late reply. I’m really grateful that you liked my essay. I don’t think that laws or mathematics is fundamental. What does it mean to have fundamental? I don’t know but it I don’t think that it can be any absolute quantity.

I will read your essay and we can discuss more.

Best,

Priyanka

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Satyavarapu Naga Parameswara Gupta wrote on Feb. 6, 2018 @ 21:08 GMT
Chy Priyanka Giri

You have nicely understood..."Fundamental has been there since the beginning of humanity and we are so familiar with it that we don’t even give it a second thought as to what it means............. we will see through what, and how, it is associated with our familiar concepts." A little more understanding of Cartesian physics and Newtonian Physics.... By the way Dynamic...

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Author Priyanka Giri replied on Feb. 7, 2018 @ 18:47 GMT
Dear Satyavarapu,

Thank you for reading my essay. I’m really interested in Cartesian physics and dynamic model. I have bookmarked your essay and will read shortly. We can discuss more if you like.

Best,

Priyanka

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Kamal L Rajpal wrote on Feb. 13, 2018 @ 18:23 GMT
Dear Priyanka Giri,

I enjoyed reading your essay. I invite you to read my essay on wave-particle and electron spin at: https://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/3145 or https://fqxi.org/data/essay-contest-files/Rajpal_1306.0141v3
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Kamal Rajpal

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Steven Andresen wrote on Feb. 22, 2018 @ 07:41 GMT
Dear Priyanka

If you are looking for another essay to read and rate in the final days of the contest, will you consider mine please? I read all essays from those who comment on my page, and if I cant rate an essay highly, then I don’t rate them at all. Infact I haven’t issued a rating lower that ten. So you have nothing to lose by having me read your essay, and everything to...

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Peter Jackson wrote on Feb. 22, 2018 @ 13:52 GMT
Priyanka,

As an Astronomer it's great to read so much sense from another entering the field. My highlights were;

"We cannot understand quantum mechanics without understanding the laws of classical mechanics. And, yet the results that both of them provide are different

...to simplify our problem, we simply ignore the other effects.

Our generalizations of concepts lead to paradoxes which make us rethink

..singularity, infinite gravity, Schrodinger's cat, EPR paradox. These paradoxes clearly show the lack of knowledge or in other words ignorance of information.

Our understanding is bounded by our own brains and we all are different.


Don't let anybody tell you things are 'sorted'! Challenge everything! Not Big B, (think cyclic) 'Black Holes' (study AGN's) accelerating expansion (study expanding helical dynamics on the Schrodinger sphere with orbit speed c.) or GR (look up Brans Dicke now we know space isn't empty').

Nicely written. Boost coming. If you'd like to see if you can follow a fully classical sequence re-producing QM by using more sensible starting assumptions and actual momentum transfer with a (Geophysics (Cos latitude distribution) do read my own essay. (It's just been hit with some 1's so need a boost too!)

Very best.

Peter

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Brajesh Mishra wrote on Feb. 23, 2018 @ 16:42 GMT
Dear Priyanka,

I liked your essay.You have nicely elucidated your thought process on the topic of this contest. I have also expressed more or less similar views in my essay - The Mysterious “Fundamental”. Best Wishes !

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Kamal L Rajpal wrote on Feb. 23, 2018 @ 17:42 GMT
Dear Priyanka Giri,

I have read your Essay and suggest that for conceptual views on Dark Matter, please read: http://vixra.org/pdf/1303.0207v3.pdf

Quantum Mechanics claims that an electron can be both spin-up and spin-down at the same time. In my conceptual physics Essay on Electron Spin, I have proved that this is not true. Please read: https://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/3145

Kamal Rajpal

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