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TOPIC: Cast Off Your Old Tired Metaphysics by Joseph D. Becker [refresh]
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Author Joseph D. Becker wrote on Jan. 17, 2018 @ 21:53 GMT
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As we look out over the world, we see things - call them objects - and we see events - call them processes. But, that was a trick sentence: our *seeing* is itself a process. We cannot construct processes out of objects, hence the vast deficiencies in our fundamental understanding of the world. But ... we *may* be able to construct a system of objects based on processes. We need to start over with an entirely new *process metaphysics* that can at least work at observable levels. And ... if we could simulate it on a laptop computer, that would be a plus.

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Joe Becker earned a BS in Mathematics from MIT and a PhD in Computer Science from Stanford. He began a career in Artificial Intelligence in the 1960's, but AI and that career died. So he became a founder of the Unicode Standard, which permits the World Wide Web to function world wide. Now that AI is alive again, he is back to seeking how to model living processes.

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John C Hodge wrote on Jan. 18, 2018 @ 11:27 GMT
Great essay.

I agree "Our task, difficult enough, is just to create a working model of what we see around us."

But assigning "purpose" or "teleology" seems beyond our current ability.

I agree there is a "spirit" (I said so in my essay) - that part of an object that is greater than the sum of its parts. So, one of the fundamental agents is the means of communication.Therefore, if this agent is real (can influence other agents), it must have no more fundamental agent. (my plenum)

The whole universe must have "spirit". It's the concept of life that is undefined. I'd note a sun may grow and die.

J. Hodge (essay submitted)

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Joe Fisher replied on Jan. 19, 2018 @ 16:51 GMT
Dear Joseph D. Becker,

In qualifying the aim of the ‘What is Fundamental?’ essay contest, Dr. Brendan Foster, the FQXi.org Science Projects Consultant wrote: “We invite interesting and compelling explorations, from detailed worked examples through thoughtful rumination, of the different levels at which nature can be described, and the relations between them.

Real Nature has...

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Author Joseph D. Becker replied on Jan. 30, 2018 @ 22:01 GMT
Thank you Correspondents,

I fear I have no qualifications to review the work of others. I am a humble computer person, interested in reviving and updating the 1920's Process Metaphysics of Alfred North Whitehead. I have in mind a modern redesign and implementation, possibly founded on some form of Agent-Based Modeling.

I believe I should have included references to other scholars' publications on technical approaches to Whitehead's insights, so please permit me to add here a few that I am aware of:

o Doyle, Bob: http://www.informationphilosopher.com/solutions/philosophers
/whitehead/

o Epperson, Michael. Quantum Mechanics and the Philosophy of Alfred North Whitehead. New York: Fordham University Press; 2004.

o Henry, Granville C. Forms of Concrescence: Alfred North Whitehead's Philosophy and Computer Programming Structures. London and Toronto: Associated University Presses; 1993.

o Jungerman, John A. World in Process: Creativity and Interconnection in the New Physics. Albany: State University of New York Press; 2000.

o Koutroufinis, Spyridon A (Ed). Life and Process: Towards a New Biophilosophy (Process Thought). Berlin: Walter de Gruyter GmbH; 2014.

o McHenry, Leemon B. The Event Universe: The Revisionary Metaphysics of Alfred North Whitehead. Edinburgh: Edinburgh University Press; 2015.

Joe Becker

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Joe Fisher wrote on Jan. 18, 2018 @ 17:16 GMT
Dear Dr Joseph D. Becker,

In qualifying the aim of the ‘What is Fundamental?’ essay contest, Dr. Brendan Foster, the FQXi.org Science Projects Consultant wrote: “We invite interesting and compelling explorations, from detailed worked examples through thoughtful rumination, of the different levels at which nature can be described, and the relations between them.

Real Nature has never had any abstract finite levels.

I have concluded from my deep research that Nature must have devised the only permanent real structure of the Universe obtainable for the real Universe existed for millions of years before man and his finite complex informational systems ever appeared on earth. The real physical Universe consists only of one single unified VISIBLE infinite surface occurring eternally in one single infinite dimension that am always illuminated mostly by finite non-surface light.

Joe Fisher, ORCID ID 0000-0003-3988-8687. Unaffiliated

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Joe Fisher wrote on Jan. 19, 2018 @ 17:52 GMT
Dear Joseph D. Becker,

All objects, be they solid, liquid, or vaporous have a visible surface. As it is physically impossible to isolate any single object, it follows that there must be only one single unified VISIBLE surface eternally occurring in one single dimension that am always illuminated by mostly finite non-surface light.

Joe Fisher, Realist

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John Brodix Merryman wrote on Jan. 20, 2018 @ 20:58 GMT
Dr. Becker,

If I may offer up a simpler metaphysics, it would be a dichotomy of energy and form. Energy manifesting form, while form defines energy. Energy is bottom up/expansive, while form is top down/constrictive.

Two examples, from opposite sides of the conceptual spectrum are that galaxies are cosmic convection cycles of radiation expanding out, as mass gravitates in. On the...

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Satyavarapu Naga Parameswara Gupta wrote on Jan. 30, 2018 @ 18:06 GMT
Hi Joseph D. Becker

Seeing itself is a mind process ( Mind is software, Brain is Hardware)….as you mentioned….”that was a trick sentence: our *seeing* is itself a process. We cannot construct processes out of objects, hence the vast deficiencies in our fundamental understanding of the world”…..is exactly correct dear Joseph D. Becker……………..…..….. very nice idea…. I...

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Joe Fisher wrote on Jan. 31, 2018 @ 16:22 GMT
Dear Fellow Essayists

This will be my final plea for fair treatment.,

FQXI is clearly seeking to find out if there is a fundamental REALITY.

Reliable evidence exists that proves that the surface of the earth was formed millions of years before man and his utterly complex finite informational systems ever appeared on that surface. It logically follows that Nature must have permanently devised the only single physical construct of earth allowable.

All objects, be they solid, liquid, or vaporous have always had a visible surface. This is because the real Universe must consist only of one single unified VISIBLE infinite surface occurring eternally in one single infinite dimension that am always illuminated mostly by finite non-surface light.

Only the truth can set you free.

Joe Fisher, Realist

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Satyavarapu Naga Parameswara Gupta wrote on Feb. 12, 2018 @ 10:43 GMT
Hi Dr Joseph D. Becker

Nice OP sir,...."As we look out over the world, we see things - call them objects - and we see events - call them processes. But, that was a trick sentence: our *seeing* is itself a process. Good definition of process.... By the way

Here in my essay energy to mass conversion is proposed...……..….. yours is very nice essay best wishes …. I highly...

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Giovanni Prisinzano wrote on Feb. 17, 2018 @ 15:04 GMT
Dear Dr. Becker,

This is a dense and engaging essay, which makes us reflect and at times fascinates!

I unfortunately did not read Whitehead's Process and Reality, although I hope to do it. I know a little the thought of Leibniz, also a great mathematician, as well as a philosopher, as you know better than me, who proposed in the seventeenth century the idea of a universal computer (then impossible to implement), as well as a metaphysics in which every reality is alive.

It makes us think that, in addition to Whitehead, at least two great mathematicians and computer science visionaries, such as Leibniz and Turing, have developed a perspective that denies the existence of any fundamental difference - on an architectural and functional level - between living realities and those organized and complex systems, which we call "mechanical". And it is not said that they are wrong ...

Sincere congratulations,

Giovanni

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Vladimir Nikolaevich Fedorov wrote on Feb. 22, 2018 @ 07:44 GMT
Dear Joseph,

I highly appreciate your well-written essay in an effort to understand.

It is so close to me. «We need to start over with an entirely new *process metaphysics* that can at least work at observable levels». «Any metaphysics of the world’s structure must be based on a vast hierarchical organization, in which wholly new functions emerge at higher levels».

I hope that my modest achievements can be information for reflection for you.

Vladimir Fedorov

https://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/3080

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Author Joseph D. Becker wrote on Feb. 22, 2018 @ 16:13 GMT
Hello Giovanni and Vladimir Nikolaevich,

Many thanks for your kind comments!

I tried to read your papers ... but I could understand very little.

Now I have to hope that the world is simple enough for me to understand it!

Good luck with your efforts,

Joe Becker

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Steven Andresen wrote on Feb. 23, 2018 @ 13:36 GMT
Dear Joseph

If you are looking for another essay to read and rate in the final days of the contest, will you consider mine please?

A couple of days in and semblance of my essay taking form, however the house bound inactivity was wearing me. I had just the remedy, so took off for a solo sail across the bay. In the lea of cove, I had underestimated the open water wind strengths. My...

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Sue Lingo wrote on Feb. 25, 2018 @ 21:05 GMT
Hi Joseph...

To the degree that one is speaking of any process in terms of equations extracted from a specified "bench" geometry model, to verify that the specified "bench" geometry model resolves the observed process, the visual kinematic chain for the theoretical derivation, from the observed geometry, back to the specified "bench" geometry model in which the process is animated... i.e. given dynamics... must be verifiably unbroken.

Digital CAD/SIM models can facilitate highly complex visual verification... i.e. if the coded simulation does not visually emulate the observed process, then the Mathematics is not verifiable.

In that "Much of the physical reality is inaccessible to measurement.", and "In that case, deduction remains the only way of approach.", I highly recommend that one verify the "bench" Origin Singularity geometry form follows function, for a pulsed minimum unit of Energy (QE) Emission, equal in all directions from a single Origin Source, before applying the artifice of the equationist to "everything", or anything, else.

As per my interpretation of World Science Festival: Topic: "Limits of Understanding" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfY-DRsE86s, the instability w/ current Space/Energy/Time/Info Physics, is as a consequence of the current instability of Mathematics.

My assessment is that the APPARENT current instability of Math is as a consequence of a geometry coordinate system, in which the fundamental Spatial relationships of the geometry do not support application of minimum units of Energy/Space/Time/Info, to Space/Energy/Time/Info analysis.

Thanks Joseph, for sharing your insights and thus making an opportunity for comment... I would read your comments on my essay entry Title: Knowledge Base (KB) Access as Fundamental to Info Processor Intelligence, with those insights in mind.

S. Lingo

UQS Author/Logician

www.uqsmatrixmechanix.com

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