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May 27, 2019

CATEGORY: FQXi Essay Contest - Spring, 2017 [back]
TOPIC: The Mysterious “Fundamental” by Brajesh Mishra [refresh]
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Author Brajesh Mishra wrote on Jan. 11, 2018 @ 17:12 GMT
Essay Abstract

Nature is much more complex and mysterious than what is appears to a human eye. It has motivated and would continue to motivate human (and similar intelligent creatures) to enrich the existing fundamental stream of knowledge and create newer ones in their never ending quest to unravel the mysteries of the Nature.

Author Bio

Born and brought up by a family of academician in holy city of Varanasi, India. After completing graduation in Electronic Engineering, joined Ministry of Communications & IT, Government of India and serving public for the last 25 years. As a follower of continuing-education, have done Post-Graduation in Automatic Control & Robotics, Master of Business Administration, Post Graduate in Public Policy & Governance. Not a Physicist/Mathematician but would love to be; a nature-lover and big fan of Basic Sciences.

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Joe Fisher wrote on Jan. 16, 2018 @ 19:43 GMT
Dear Brajesh Mishra,

You wrote in the Abstract: “Nature is much more complex and mysterious than what is appears to a human eye. It has motivated and would continue to motivate human (and similar intelligent creatures) to enrich the existing fundamental stream of knowledge and create newer ones in their never ending quest to unravel the mysteries of the Nature.”

I have concluded from my deep research that Nature must have devised the only permanent real structure of the Universe obtainable for the real Universe existed for millions of years before man and his finite complex informational systems ever appeared on earth. The real physical Universe consists only of one single unified VISIBLE infinite surface occurring eternally in one single infinite dimension that am always illuminated mostly by finite non-surface light.

Joe Fisher, ORCID ID 0000-0003-3988-8687. Unaffiliated

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Author Brajesh Mishra replied on Jan. 17, 2018 @ 03:56 GMT
Thanks Joe,

Happy to find your comments on the Abstract portion of my Essay. Hope, you may have found some interesting points inside the Essay, particularly the section covering my understanding about "What is Fundamental ?".

In short, my view is that - We Human are a self-hypnotized species (part of Animal Kingdom) - the existing knowledge base with us is too minuscule to appreciate the complexities of Nature. We have a long way to go.

By writing "Nature must have devised the only permanent real structure of the Universe..." - you have added some more dimensions -

# Is nature intelligent ? Or

# Does Nature carry characteristics like Living Entities ?

I am interested to get more information about the findings of the deep research done by you.

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Satyavarapu Naga Parameswara Gupta wrote on Jan. 26, 2018 @ 17:57 GMT
The Mysterious “Fundamental” by Brajesh Mishra

Hi Brajesh Mishraji

Your OP “Nature is much more complex and mysterious than what is appears to a human eye.” Is extremely correct. It is very nice to get acquainted with multi talented person from age old education hub of India like you…. I am very happy…. Dear Brajesh Mishra…..

I highly appreciate your essay and I...

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Satyavarapu Naga Parameswara Gupta wrote on Jan. 29, 2018 @ 05:25 GMT
Respected Brajesh Mishraji

Thank you for all the nice words… You can any depth into Dynamic Universe Model no problem. All the papers and books are available for free from its web page…

https://vaksdynamicuniversemodel.blogspot.com/

…………Yo
ur words…..

The outcome of experiments, as suggested by you, can tell how far your model is accepted by the...

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Satyavarapu Naga Parameswara Gupta wrote on Jan. 29, 2018 @ 12:41 GMT
Mishraji,

Dynamic Universe Model is totally based on experimental results or observations only....

Predictions are on mathematically derived.... Many came true, This one is new...

Best

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Satyavarapu Naga Parameswara Gupta wrote on Jan. 29, 2018 @ 12:58 GMT
Dear Mishraji,

Your essay is Good, it requires appreciation... I am giving my highest appreciation possible...

Best wishes to your essay

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Joe Fisher wrote on Jan. 30, 2018 @ 20:20 GMT
Dear Fellow Essayists

This will be my final plea for fair treatment.,

FQXI is clearly seeking to find out if there is a fundamental REALITY.

Reliable evidence exists that proves that the surface of the earth was formed millions of years before man and his utterly complex finite informational systems ever appeared on that surface. It logically follows that Nature must have permanently devised the only single physical construct of earth allowable.

All objects, be they solid, liquid, or vaporous have always had a visible surface. This is because the real Universe must consist only of one single unified VISIBLE infinite surface occurring eternally in one single infinite dimension that am always illuminated mostly by finite non-surface light.

Only the truth can set you free.

Joe Fisher, Realist

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Don Limuti wrote on Feb. 18, 2018 @ 21:36 GMT
Hi Brajesh,

I appreciate your comprehensive overview of what is "fundamental". Your essay subsumed many of the essays in this contest.

I liked:

1. "Further, Science has to develop to a stage where it can explain the complexities of Social Sciences. Thus, perhaps we have yet not reached the right stage of scientific journey to understand ‘Fundamental’.

2. I checked your first reference and found, Kipling: "I keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew); Their names are What and Why and When And How and Where and Who."

Question: Varanasi is known as a holy city. Do you find it special? Are people there interested in physics?



A parting thought stolen from GK Chesterton:"I would maintain that thanks are the highest form of thought; and that gratitude is happiness doubled by wonder."

Thanks,

Don Limuti

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Author Brajesh Mishra replied on Feb. 19, 2018 @ 15:23 GMT
Dear Don,

I thank you for your valuable observations on my essay. As I have mentioned in Author's Bio, let me reiterate - I am a nature-lover, an atheist and a big fan of Basic Sciences. I am amazed by the enormous achievements of Basic Science, Engineering & Technology over the last 2-3 centuries (this may not apply to other stream of knowledge, including philosophy etc). However, expecting that Science has reached its pinnacle to hover closely around 'What is Fundamental ?' is like asking too much.

Taking about Varanasi - Yes, I found it very special, as it is my birth-place, my home-town, and something which is close to my heart (I am working in New Delhi for the last 12 years). Yes, it is a famous spiritual city of India, where sanatana dharma (pure form of modern Hindu religion) evolved and flourished and many different sects/sub-religions emerged over a period of more than 3200 years. Debate on spiritual questions use to be the social norm in Varanasi (Kashi) till 20th century.

The best thing about Varanasi, worth mentioning, is that - here majority of inhabitants are least materialistic and carefree. And within a extended-family, you may find members with different faith and belief systems. So that is a place ideally suited for a person like me who has inherited value system but is drawn/convinced more by basic science.

I have glimpsed the essay submitted by you - I found it pretty interesting. I would give my comments on it separately, after a careful read.

with kind regards

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Author Brajesh Mishra replied on Feb. 23, 2018 @ 16:31 GMT
I have again visited you essay. Found it very insightful and rated it Excellent. Please keep it up.

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Vladimir Nikolaevich Fedorov wrote on Feb. 22, 2018 @ 06:42 GMT
Dear Brajesh,

I highly appreciate your well-written essay in an effort to understand.

It is so close to me. «Are we in right stage of scientific journey to discover ‘Fundamental’?»

I hope that my modest achievements can be information for reflection for you.

Vladimir Fedorov

https://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/3080

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Dizhechko Boris Semyonovich wrote on Feb. 23, 2018 @ 22:16 GMT
Dear Brajesh Mishra, you wrote a good essay, however, it was better if you were familiar with the New Cartesian Physics, where the fundamental is a space which according to the principle of identity of space and matter Descartes, is a matter and back matter is a physical space. Time is a synonym for universal movement of the physical space. Thus, the "Fifth dimension" is a physical space.No more dualism between matter and space, between mind and body. Consciousness arises when a body appears the ability to create in space the image of the external world and to remember him for discernment and judgment. In the center of this image of the external world is the body that created it and which is actively positioning itself to prolong its existence.

New Cartesian Physics needs your support to develop further. Visit my page and give your assessment there. FQXi Fundamental in New Cartesian Physics by Dizhechko Boris Semyonovich

I wish you success! Sincerely, Boris Dizhechko

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Dizhechko Boris Semyonovich replied on Feb. 25, 2018 @ 08:50 GMT
Dear Brajesh Mishra, for your intelligent questions 10. I'll try to answer them as it looks New Cartesian Physics, which is based on the principle of identity of space and matter of Descartes. Sometimes you like to look at the sky and it seems to you infinite empty space in which it moves large and small body. However, this impression is deceptive. According to this principle, Descartes, space is matter that moves. When Copernicus asserted that the Earth revolves around the Sun, he had to add that along with the Earth revolves around the Sun, all the solar space. Space is what created the universe. Time is a synonym for universal total movement of the physical space. Thus, space is the Foundation for fundamental theories. Space contains information about the development of the Universe. Space is the body of God.

The principle of identity of physical space and matter allows us to extend physics to living matter. For this we need to pay attention to the fact that matter within the body is the same as outside the body. Our brain creates an image of the outside world not within themselves and in the space around them. This way the outside world has an active nature, as it controls the body.

New Cartesian Physics needs your support to develop further. Visit my page and give your assessment there.

I hope you highly rathing appreciate her ideas.

FQXi Fundamental in New Cartesian Physics by Dizhechko Boris Semyonovich

I wish you success! Sincerely, Boris Dizhechko

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Aditya Dwarkesh wrote on Feb. 24, 2018 @ 16:45 GMT
Dear Brajesh,

Your rather simplistic method of analysis is one that greatly appeals to me. I have rated it much like I would have rated my own essay, for I myself have not adopted any formal method of analysis, and many of your trains of thought coincide with mine!-especially your reflections concerning the current state of scientific theories. You have given a very apt summation of the current state of human knowledge.

Regards,

Aditya

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Vladimir Nikolaevich Fedorov wrote on Feb. 25, 2018 @ 10:47 GMT
Dear Brajesh,

(copy to yours and mine)

Thanks for the kind words and advice. «I would suggest you to subsequently develop your ideas for people who are from non-science background».

I wish you happiness in your scientific work in search of truth.

Vladimir Fedorov

https://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/3080

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Peter Jackson wrote on Feb. 25, 2018 @ 16:58 GMT
Brajesh,

Lovely essay, I'm very glad I got to it. I think the nub and truth is best summed up here;

"The boundary between different streams of basic Science is yet to melt down. Further, Science has to develop to a stage where it can explain the complexities of Social Sciences. Thus, perhaps we have yet not reached the right stage of scientific journey to understand ‘Fundamental’."

I've assigned it to our current limit of intellectual development, not helped by out reliance on calculators to explore the mysteries of nature.

I also agree the; " The Five ‘Ws’ [What, When, Where, Who & Why]" should be utmost. I hope you'll read mine, which sows the power of doing so in deriving a Classical explanation of QM simply by better more complex rationalisation; a better starting assumption (Maxwell & Poincare sphere 2 Vector Pairs NOT singlet states) and pulling in Cos Latitude momentum distributions from Geophysics for interaction analysis.

Yet mainstream includes the judges, so no advancement will likely be admitted until we evolve rather more - if we don't loose the ability to think!

Well done for yours. Hope you get to mine.

Very best

Peter.

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