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August 25, 2019

CATEGORY: FQXi Essay Contest - Spring, 2017 [back]
TOPIC: The Fundamental Universe by Jeff Yee [refresh]
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Author Jeff Yee wrote on Jan. 10, 2018 @ 20:51 GMT
Essay Abstract

The universe is vast, chaotic and it contains an incredible number of stars and planets – all of which are formed from atomic elements that can be further divided into subatomic particles. Although the universe appears to be a complex mix of particles, a simpler definition is possible when the components of the universe are split into fundamental parts. This definition, and how it applies to matter, forces and time is explored using a concept of wave energy and fundamental waves that travel the universe.

Author Bio

Mr. Jeff Yee (M.S. Management, B.S. Mechanical Engineering) is a Visiting Professor at South China Normal University. Mr. Yee holds a full-time role in the electronics industry at ZTE Corporation as the Vice President of Product Marketing and Strategy.

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Alan M. Kadin wrote on Jan. 11, 2018 @ 17:13 GMT
Dear Mr. Yee,

I noticed that you focus on fundamental waves in your essay. I take a similar focus on waves much further in my own essay, “Fundamental Waves and the Reunification of Physics”. I propose that a set of slight modifications from classical physics can give rise to a consistent unified realistic physical picture on all scales. There are no point particles or gravitational singularities; abstract spacetime and Hilbert space are mathematical artifacts. Electrons are distributed wave packets. Space and time are separate, and are defined by frequency and wavelength of these real waves, which can shift in a gravitational potential. This gives rise to the phenomena associated with general relativity and quantum mechanics, without requiring separate mathematical formalisms.

Alan Kadin

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Author Jeff Yee replied on Jan. 13, 2018 @ 00:22 GMT
Alan,

Yes, I am aware of your paper (I read it even prior to the submission of my paper). I found a lot of similarities in our thinking and found it to be an enjoyable read. Completely agree with you on particles as wave packets, and time as the frequency of these real (longitudinal) waves.

I do have a different thought on gravitational potential and have worked out a mathematical relationship between magnetism and gravity for the electron - both of which are related to the particle's spin. You might have an interest in it -- see this site on gravity

I'd be happy to converse further and mutually share ideas.

Jeff

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Marcel-Marie LeBel wrote on Jan. 11, 2018 @ 17:53 GMT
Yee,

Waves are either translating or “standing”. Without a boundary, how does a standing wave “stand”?

Have you considered particles as waves rotating on themselves? Curved in a loop?

Good luck,

Marcel,

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Author Jeff Yee replied on Jan. 13, 2018 @ 00:29 GMT
Marcel,

I believe you mean "traveling" waves not translating in your comment?

A standing wave in this model is a combination of (spherical) traveling in-waves and out-waves to form the standing wave. It is assumed to reflect off something to create the out-wave, and this was given the name "wave center" by Dr. Milo Wolff.

Since this happens in nature today, such as sound waves, I do not personally see the need to complicate it when considering particles. Standing waves eventually break down to become traveling waves again. This becomes a particle's radius.

Everything inside this boundary (particle radius) is standing waves. It is stored energy (particle mass). Everything beyond this radius is still energy back in the form of traveling waves, with the ability to cause a force (electric force).

Jeff

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Marcel-Marie LeBel replied on Jan. 21, 2018 @ 03:28 GMT
Jeff,

Yes, I meant traveling waves... My comment above comes from the following. In the process of pair annihilation, electron and positron turn into two gamma rays. The idea that the particles were actually and already “waves” curled-up is in my opinion logical. I believe that there is a sort of “conservation of structure”; they swap, change shape etc. but keep the same number crests and dips holding the causality of motion.

Thanks,

Marcel,

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Declan Andrew Traill wrote on Jan. 11, 2018 @ 23:32 GMT
Jeff,

While I agree with the WSM (Wave Structure of Matter) view on the Universe, there are a few things I would like to point out:

- light’s speed slows down in a medium such as water or glass due to absorption and re-emission of the light by the molecules of the medium. It travels unimpeded at ‘c’ between molecules.

- charge cannot be determined by constructive/destructive interference alone, as a slight movement of two particles with respect to one another would change charge from positive to negative or vice-versus. Rather, charge is determined by the flow of phase either inwards or outwards wrt the particle center. This way, when the waves from two or more particles overlap, the waves add together in such a way as to cause the reflected waves (at the combined waves’ nodes) to be Doppler shifted to higher or lower frequencies - causing the wavefunctions to move (I.e. a force).

- reflection of the particle’s waves cannot only occur at the ‘wave center’ because if the particle started to move, most of the inward waves would miss the Centre and be lost in space. Rather, reflection occurs at every node within the particle’s standing wave - inwave becoming outwave and vice-versa at every node. The particle’s standing wave can then respond immediately to movement and its wave energy doesn’t get lost (unless the movement causes a photon to be emitted of course).

See my electron wave-function paper that models electrons and positrons using these principles:

http://vixra.org/abs/1507.0054

Regards,

Declan Traill

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Author Jeff Yee replied on Jan. 13, 2018 @ 00:22 GMT
Thanks Declan

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Gary D. Simpson wrote on Jan. 13, 2018 @ 14:44 GMT
Jeff,

I'm glad to see that Dr. Wolff's thinking is still influential to people. I like the idea that the neutrino is fundamental. The total neutrino mass in the universe is similar to the total star mass in the universe. So, there are LOTS of nuetrinos out there.

I am very impressed by the correspondence between your predicted particle values and the measured particle values. I especially like the exponent "5" in your equation 2. The value 6*pi^5 is very close to the ratio between the mass of the proton and the mass of the electron and I have used that observation to infer that there are 5 dimensions. Some people would argue this is numerology and they might be correct. I believe it is a CLUE.

Your graphics and illustrations are well done and effective.

All in all this is a good essay.

Best Regards,

Gary Simpson

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Author Jeff Yee replied on Jan. 13, 2018 @ 20:00 GMT
Thanks Gary. I remember your paper on the proton-electron mass ratio and it being close to pi^5. I did try to work on a relationship between the particle energy linearization model and the fact that the mass ratio is pi^5, but ultimately, I could not find anything.

Although if it is helpful, I did manage to get the proton-electron mass ratio expressed in the same wave constants used in Energy Wave Theory that can derive 19 fundamental physical constants. I find it interesting that it's a ratio of wave amplitude to wavelength, and that the same ratios appear in two other mass ratios related to Planck mass. That work can be found here:

Proton-Electron Mass Ratio

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Joe Fisher wrote on Jan. 16, 2018 @ 17:12 GMT
Dear Professor Jeff Ye,

You wrote: “The universe contains fundamental units that provide the foundation of particles, charges and even time itself.”

I have concluded from my deep research that Nature must have devised the only permanent real structure of the Universe obtainable for the real Universe existed for millions of years before man and his finite complex informational systems ever appeared on earth. The real physical Universe consists only of one single unified VISIBLE infinite surface occurring eternally in one single infinite dimension that am always illuminated mostly by finite non-surface light.

Joe Fisher, ORCID ID 0000-0003-3988-8687. Unaffiliated

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Author Jeff Yee replied on Jan. 17, 2018 @ 00:13 GMT
How do you conclude that there is only one dimension when we live in three spatial dimensions?

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Joe Fisher replied on Jan. 29, 2018 @ 21:48 GMT
Dear Jeff Yee,

There am only one single INFINITE dimension. There am not three finite abstract special dimensions.

This will be my final plea for fair treatment.,

Reliable evidence exists that proves that the surface of the earth was formed millions of years before man and his utterly complex finite informational systems ever appeared on that surface. It logically follows that Nature must have permanently devised the only single physical construct of earth allowable.

All objects, be they solid, liquid, or vaporous have always had a visible surface. This is because the real Universe must consist only of one single unified VISIBLE infinite surface occurring eternally in one single infinite dimension that am always illuminated mostly by finite non-surface light.

Only the truth can set you free.

Joe Fisher, Realist

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Karoly Kehrer wrote on Jan. 21, 2018 @ 20:38 GMT
I believe Mr. Jeff Yee's study resolves the nagging problem of wave particle duality and opens a new way of thinking about of what the universe is really built of.

He holds it true that the space cannot be an absolute empty void, regardless that Einstein's SR declared that aether is nonexistence and by the way this declaration was the only modification to Lorentz's relativity.

Finally when Einstein gave an address on 5 May 1920 at the University of Leiden. [he admitted that GR would not hold up without eater.] He chose as his topic Ether and the Theory of published by Methuen & Co. Ltd, London, in 1922.

Jeff Yee's study [2] found the deeper fundamental truth, an explanation that based on the WSM philosophy, which provides the physical explanation of the wave structure of matter.

In plain words, it says that there are no particles we try to envision as tiny billiard balls. There are no such things; the wave/particle confusion may be resolved once and for all. There are just standing and traveling waves in the aether that fills the infinite Universe.

Will it open a new horizon to understand of what is the next possible level of something more fundamental that explains the underlying mechanism of the earlier findings?

[1] http://www-history.mcs.st-andrews.ac.uk/Extras/Einstein_ethe
r.html

[2] https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078HTWT7W/

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Author Jeff Yee replied on Feb. 11, 2018 @ 16:20 GMT
Thank you Karoly for your comment and feedback.

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Satyavarapu Naga Parameswara Gupta wrote on Jan. 25, 2018 @ 21:48 GMT
Hi Jeff Yee

“Although the universe appears to be a complex mix of particles, a simpler definition is possible when the components of the universe are split into fundamental parts. This definition, and how it applies to matter, forces and time is explored using a concept of wave energy and fundamental waves that travel the universe.” Wonderful words dear Jeff Yee…. By the way see my...

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Author Jeff Yee replied on Feb. 11, 2018 @ 16:20 GMT
Thanks. I will take a look at the paper.

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sherman loran jenkins wrote on Feb. 11, 2018 @ 07:00 GMT
Jeff

Almost but not quite. There are more “why” questions created than answered. The structure of the vacuum is fundamental and if you invert your approach from waves creating charge and etc. to charge creating waves etc. many more “why” questions are answered. At that point you can return to question “where does charge come from.”

Well done! Deserves a good score!

Sherman

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Author Jeff Yee replied on Feb. 11, 2018 @ 16:20 GMT
Thanks Sherman. I appreciate the feedback.

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Vladimir Nikolaevich Fedorov wrote on Feb. 21, 2018 @ 08:04 GMT
Dear Jeff,

Here we are again all together.

I highly appreciate your work, and your aspirations for the particle table are close to me.

I completely agree with you.

«A fundamental wave center is the foundation for the creation of particles. As longitudinal waves reflect off the wave center to create standing waves, the stored energy becomes the mass of a particle. When wave centers combine, new particles are created. The universe is simple and fundamental».

I hope that my modest achievements can be information for reflection for you.

Vladimir Fedorov

https://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/3080

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Author Jeff Yee replied on Feb. 22, 2018 @ 02:48 GMT
Hi Vladimir, thanks for the comment. I'll take a look at the essay.

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Peter Jackson wrote on Feb. 21, 2018 @ 19:19 GMT
Jeff,

I think you chose your subject well. Of course whether wave or quanta we still need to ask 'of what'? but I think you did a very good job. I covered such interactions and the LT in my finalist 2012 & 2013 essays and this year the 3D wave(/particle) dynamic leads logically to rather a shock. Do check it out. I'm interested if you agree my postulates. And the Majorana fermion??

As an Astronomer waves and Lambda are the primary scalar, frequency just the time derivative after arrival/interaction, and Huygens rules. But I didn't see mention of the often ignored Doppler shift found when entering a co-moving medium. Why so?

I'm interested in your electron work and will follow the link you posted to Alan K above. Are you familiar with the Poincare sphere? - 4 orthogonal conjugate states as Maxwells, I've just discovered my experimental discovery already existed! (though ignored). My title; "Ridiculous Simplicity" agreed your conclusion; "The universe is simple and fundamental."

Very best

Peter

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Author Jeff Yee replied on Feb. 22, 2018 @ 02:47 GMT
Hi Peter, quick answers to your questions and then I'll have to review your 2012/2013 essays later to answer your first question. But regarding Doppler shift, it is addressed elsewhere, just not in this essay. Doppler would indeed explain the Lorentz factor in relativity and a logical explanation for time dilation and length contraction. I have more information here: http://energywavetheory.com/explanations/length-contraction/
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Also, regarding the Poincare sphere question... no, not that familiar with it but thanks for the tip. I will review.

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Peter Jackson replied on Feb. 24, 2018 @ 10:17 GMT
Jeff,

Apologies, it was Colin Walkers essay I posted the sequence outline on. I'll add it below.

The Poincare Sphere is simply what I showed in my figs lat year and experiment (photo's) this year. There's a 2nd (orthogonal) momentum pair 'hidden away' in orbital angular momentum OAM, equivalent to Maxwells 'curl' at poles, but just 'linear' at 90o on the equator left/right also opposite at 180o. Bohr didn't use it formulating QM!

100sec video here, including classical 'non-integer spins' from y & z axis rotation!!

The easy way to start is to follow through the actual mechanism using the brains visualisation skills computing power and logic. As Wheeler said, get the answer before doing the maths! The Process;

1. Start with Poincare sphere OAM with 2 orthogonal momenta pairs NOT 'singlets'.

2. Pairs have antiparalell axis (random shared y,z). (photon wavefront sim.)

3. Interact with identical (polariser electron) spheres rotatable by A,B.

4. Momentum exchange as actually proved, by Cos latitude at tan intersection.

5. Result 'SAME' or 'OPP' dir. Re-emit polarised with amplitude phase dependent.

6. Photomultiplier electrons give 2nd Cos distribution & 90o phase values.

7. The non detects are all below a threshold amplitude at either channel angle.

8. Statisticians then analyse using CORRECT assumptions about what's 'measured!

If the numbers match CHSH>2 and steering inequality >1 you've got them right.

Not this all came from the simple SR solution discussed, so allows unification both decluttered. (not that mainstream will welcome it or allow it in!) Let me know how you get on.

I'm a bit tied up with a dinner & rugby internationals this weekend so I'm scoring yours now in case I get tight for time. A well deserved boost. Well done.

Peter

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Dizhechko Boris Semyonovich wrote on Feb. 24, 2018 @ 10:08 GMT
Dear Jeff Yee, it's very interesting: longitudinal and transverse waves. I wish these waves were considered in the physical space, which for Descartes is a matter which is moving. Physical space is the basis for fundamental theories. Time is a synonym for the total movement. Look at my essay, FQXi Fundamental in New Cartesian Physics by Dizhechko Boris Semyonovich Where I showed how radically the physics can change if it follows this principle. the identity of space and matter Descartes Evaluate and leave your comment there. Do not allow New Cartesian Physics go away into nothingness, which can to be the theory of everything OO.

I wish you success! Sincerely, Dizhechko Boris

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