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TOPIC: On the Nature of Asymmetry by Miles Mutka [refresh]

Symmetry and asymmetry are fundamentally interdependent concepts, because they are ultimately defined in terms of difference and sameness. Fundamental laws of physics are expressed as symmetries or invariances, in minimalistic equations of elegance and simplicity. Life, on the other hand, is more asymmetric and has variety and complexity. Generalizations of symmetry and asymmetry are explored, including regularity, patterns and statistical correlation.

Master's Degree in Maths and CS (1993). My interests are wide and shallow, but I have always been fascinated by foundational questions. My hobbies include nephoscopy, phrontistation, and protologisms.

Dear Miles Mutka,

Please excuse me for I have no intention of disparaging in any way any part of your essay.

I merely wish to point out that “Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler.” Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955) Physicist & Nobel Laureate.

Only nature could produce a reality so simple, a single cell amoeba could deal with it.

The real Universe must consist only of one unified visible infinite physical surface occurring in one infinite dimension, that am always illuminated by infinite non-surface light.

A more detailed explanation of natural reality can be found in my essay, SCORE ONE FOR SIMPLICITY. I do hope that you will read my essay and perhaps comment on its merit.

Joe Fisher, Realist

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Please excuse me for I have no intention of disparaging in any way any part of your essay.

I merely wish to point out that “Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler.” Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955) Physicist & Nobel Laureate.

Only nature could produce a reality so simple, a single cell amoeba could deal with it.

The real Universe must consist only of one unified visible infinite physical surface occurring in one infinite dimension, that am always illuminated by infinite non-surface light.

A more detailed explanation of natural reality can be found in my essay, SCORE ONE FOR SIMPLICITY. I do hope that you will read my essay and perhaps comment on its merit.

Joe Fisher, Realist

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Hello, Miles -

An interesting essay, thanks. You delve on the fringes of one of my favorite topics (the subject of my 2015 essay The Hole at the Center of Creation. As you say "Only a featureless, unchanging void is trivially symmetric under all possible transformations." As we follow the universal evolutionary pathway backwards in time towards the big bang, recovering each of the symmetries that were broken along the way, do we not need to theorize the metaphysical beginning where no symmetries had been broken?

I would be interested in your thoughts on my essay - The How and the Why of Emergence and Intention. I suggest, in the alternative to a randomly directed multiverse, that we are in a well-specified unique universe (symmetries broken in specific ways), one that exhibits a cosmic intentionality.

Best of luck - George Gantz

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An interesting essay, thanks. You delve on the fringes of one of my favorite topics (the subject of my 2015 essay The Hole at the Center of Creation. As you say "Only a featureless, unchanging void is trivially symmetric under all possible transformations." As we follow the universal evolutionary pathway backwards in time towards the big bang, recovering each of the symmetries that were broken along the way, do we not need to theorize the metaphysical beginning where no symmetries had been broken?

I would be interested in your thoughts on my essay - The How and the Why of Emergence and Intention. I suggest, in the alternative to a randomly directed multiverse, that we are in a well-specified unique universe (symmetries broken in specific ways), one that exhibits a cosmic intentionality.

Best of luck - George Gantz

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Nice essay Mutka,

Your ideas and thinking on symmetries are excellent and.. “A purely kinetic system, of Newtonian mechanics and ideal collisions, would behave too symmetrically, all actions mirrored with equal and opposite reactions. An interface between different forms of energy is needed to harness and manipulate forces in a dynamic world”

A Good proposal , I fully agree...

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Your ideas and thinking on symmetries are excellent and.. “A purely kinetic system, of Newtonian mechanics and ideal collisions, would behave too symmetrically, all actions mirrored with equal and opposite reactions. An interface between different forms of energy is needed to harness and manipulate forces in a dynamic world”

A Good proposal , I fully agree...

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Hi Miles,

It is a subtle point you make about mathematical laws evolving. As per your quote below:

"The concept of numbers has evolved during the history of mathematics, to include 0, to include negative numbers, to include complex numbers, and so on; all to satisfy the idea of completeness, to include all possible placeholder solutions to a class of simple equations. This process has muddled the strict ordering that real numbers had in the beginning, but does it hint at deep connections between asymmetry (orderings) and symmetry (completeness)?"

Mathematics that evolves is an interesting concept not too far from nephoscopy. A valid criticism of this essay question.

A little convoluted but like it.

Thanks for your essay.

Don Limuti

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It is a subtle point you make about mathematical laws evolving. As per your quote below:

"The concept of numbers has evolved during the history of mathematics, to include 0, to include negative numbers, to include complex numbers, and so on; all to satisfy the idea of completeness, to include all possible placeholder solutions to a class of simple equations. This process has muddled the strict ordering that real numbers had in the beginning, but does it hint at deep connections between asymmetry (orderings) and symmetry (completeness)?"

Mathematics that evolves is an interesting concept not too far from nephoscopy. A valid criticism of this essay question.

A little convoluted but like it.

Thanks for your essay.

Don Limuti

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Hi Don,

Thanks for reading my essay. I know it is "a little convoluted" as you put it, and could be more rigorous and to the point.

Whether or not mathematics exists in a platonic world of ideas separate from us, each human who learns mathematics has to "evolve" their notions about it, when they want to learn more.

Miles

Thanks for reading my essay. I know it is "a little convoluted" as you put it, and could be more rigorous and to the point.

Whether or not mathematics exists in a platonic world of ideas separate from us, each human who learns mathematics has to "evolve" their notions about it, when they want to learn more.

Miles

Miles,

Super essay, appealing to the geometer in me. I entirely agree your conclusion; "It seems that symmetry is in fact no more fundamental than asymmetry." and think that's a far more important matter than most realise.

How do you consider combined symmetrical but orthogonal relationships? I identify what appears to be a very important classical derivation of QM's predictions from it's analysis!

Yours seems way too low in the 3's and my score will help. I think you'll like mine and hope you get to read comments and score it before the deadline.

Very best

Peter

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Super essay, appealing to the geometer in me. I entirely agree your conclusion; "It seems that symmetry is in fact no more fundamental than asymmetry." and think that's a far more important matter than most realise.

How do you consider combined symmetrical but orthogonal relationships? I identify what appears to be a very important classical derivation of QM's predictions from it's analysis!

Yours seems way too low in the 3's and my score will help. I think you'll like mine and hope you get to read comments and score it before the deadline.

Very best

Peter

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Hi Peter,

Thanks for reading! The amount of thoughtfully written essays on this site is so staggering, I only found out about it three months ago.

Regarding orthogonality, I will just say that the cartesian coordinate system, which now seems kind of obvious and natural, was quite a revelation at its time, enabling the works of Newton, Leibniz, and even Kant, among others. I guess it was Ernst Mach who first noticed that orthogonality is not so helpful with angular motion.

It looks like your essay touches upon angular momentum, one of the deep mysteries of physics. I am not sure I am qualified to say if this mystery can explain quantum as classical, but the technique is interesting.

Regards,

Miles

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Thanks for reading! The amount of thoughtfully written essays on this site is so staggering, I only found out about it three months ago.

Regarding orthogonality, I will just say that the cartesian coordinate system, which now seems kind of obvious and natural, was quite a revelation at its time, enabling the works of Newton, Leibniz, and even Kant, among others. I guess it was Ernst Mach who first noticed that orthogonality is not so helpful with angular motion.

It looks like your essay touches upon angular momentum, one of the deep mysteries of physics. I am not sure I am qualified to say if this mystery can explain quantum as classical, but the technique is interesting.

Regards,

Miles

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Dear Sirs!

Physics of Descartes, which existed prior to the physics of Newton returned as the New Cartesian Physic and promises to be a theory of everything. To tell you this good news I use «spam».

New Cartesian Physic based on the identity of space and matter. It showed that the formula of mass-energy equivalence comes from the pressure of the Universe, the flow of force which on the corpuscle is equal to the product of Planck's constant to the speed of light.

New Cartesian Physic has great potential for understanding the world. To show it, I ventured to give "materialistic explanations of the paranormal and supernatural" is the title of my essay.

Visit my essay, you will find there the New Cartesian Physic and make a short entry: "I believe that space is a matter" I will answer you in return. Can put me 1.

Sincerely,

Dizhechko Boris

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Physics of Descartes, which existed prior to the physics of Newton returned as the New Cartesian Physic and promises to be a theory of everything. To tell you this good news I use «spam».

New Cartesian Physic based on the identity of space and matter. It showed that the formula of mass-energy equivalence comes from the pressure of the Universe, the flow of force which on the corpuscle is equal to the product of Planck's constant to the speed of light.

New Cartesian Physic has great potential for understanding the world. To show it, I ventured to give "materialistic explanations of the paranormal and supernatural" is the title of my essay.

Visit my essay, you will find there the New Cartesian Physic and make a short entry: "I believe that space is a matter" I will answer you in return. Can put me 1.

Sincerely,

Dizhechko Boris

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I liked this essay very much, and also the book you linked :) Thanks.

I Think in the same paths, a bit. I Think of a fundamental law of complexity... it should be information. And I have earlier thought much of the Platonic solides and what information they can code.

I know I am a year too late now, but good luck to you.

Ulla

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I Think in the same paths, a bit. I Think of a fundamental law of complexity... it should be information. And I have earlier thought much of the Platonic solides and what information they can code.

I know I am a year too late now, but good luck to you.

Ulla

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