Dear Don Limuti

I invite you and every physicist to read my work “TIME ORIGIN,DEFINITION AND EMPIRICAL MEANING FOR PHYSICISTS, Héctor Daniel Gianni ,I’m not a physicist.

How people interested in “Time” could feel about related things to the subject.

1) Intellectuals interested in Time issues usually have a nice and creative wander for the unknown.

2) They...

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Dear Don Limuti

I invite you and every physicist to read my work “TIME ORIGIN,DEFINITION AND EMPIRICAL MEANING FOR PHYSICISTS, Héctor Daniel Gianni ,I’m not a physicist.

How people interested in “Time” could feel about related things to the subject.

1) Intellectuals interested in Time issues usually have a nice and creative wander for the unknown.

2) They usually enjoy this wander of their searches around it.

3) For millenniums this wander has been shared by a lot of creative people around the world.

4) What if suddenly, something considered quasi impossible to be found or discovered such as “Time” definition and experimental meaning confronts them?

5) Their reaction would be like, something unbelievable,… a kind of disappointment, probably interpreted as a loss of wander…..

6) ….worst than that, if we say that what was found or discovered wasn’t a viable theory, but a proved fact.

7) Then it would become offensive to be part of the millenary problem solution, instead of being a reason for happiness and satisfaction.

8) The reader approach to the news would be paradoxically adverse.

9) Instead, I think it should be a nice welcome to discovery, to be received with opened arms and considered to be read with full attention.

11)Time “existence” is exclusive as a “measuring system”, its physical existence can’t be proved by science, as the “time system” is. Experimentally “time” is “movement”, we can prove that, showing that with clocks we measure “constant and uniform” movement and not “the so called Time”.

12)The original “time manuscript” has 23 pages, my manuscript in this contest has only 9 pages.

I share this brief with people interested in “time” and with physicists who have been in sore need of this issue for the last 50 or 60 years.

Héctor

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Dear Limuti,

Nice short discussion with LEXI, your alter self…. !

Best wishes for your aspiration for making the first artificial emotional intelligence chip!

Probably we are not machines, we have something else called “consciousness”, can you provide the consciousness to the robot you are proposing to built? In my essay I am showing that the Universe is having some...

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Dear Limuti,

Nice short discussion with LEXI, your alter self…. !

Best wishes for your aspiration for making the first artificial emotional intelligence chip!

Probably we are not machines, we have something else called “consciousness”, can you provide the consciousness to the robot you are proposing to built? In my essay I am showing that the Universe is having some form of consciousness……

For your information Dynamic Universe model is totally based on experimental results. Here in Dynamic Universe Model Space is Space and time is time in cosmology level or in any level. In the classical general relativity, space and time are convertible in to each other.

Many papers and books on Dynamic Universe Model were published by the author on unsolved problems of present day Physics, for example ‘Absolute Rest frame of reference is not necessary’ (1994) , ‘Multiple bending of light ray can create many images for one Galaxy: in our dynamic universe’, About “SITA” simulations, ‘Missing mass in Galaxy is NOT required’, “New mathematics tensors without Differential and Integral equations”, “Information, Reality and Relics of Cosmic Microwave Background”, “Dynamic Universe Model explains the Discrepancies of Very-Long-Baseline Interferometry Observations.”, in 2015 ‘Explaining Formation of Astronomical Jets Using Dynamic Universe Model, ‘Explaining Pioneer anomaly’, ‘Explaining Near luminal velocities in Astronomical jets’, ‘Observation of super luminal neutrinos’, ‘Process of quenching in Galaxies due to formation of hole at the center of Galaxy, as its central densemass dries up’, “Dynamic Universe Model Predicts the Trajectory of New Horizons Satellite Going to Pluto” etc., are some more papers from the Dynamic Universe model. Four Books also were published. Book1 shows Dynamic Universe Model is singularity free and body to collision free, Book 2, and Book 3 are explanation of equations of Dynamic Universe model. Book 4 deals about prediction and finding of Blue shifted Galaxies in the universe.

With axioms like… No Isotropy; No Homogeneity; No Space-time continuum; Non-uniform density of matter(Universe is lumpy); No singularities; No collisions between bodies; No Blackholes; No warm holes; No Bigbang; No repulsion between distant Galaxies; Non-empty Universe; No imaginary or negative time axis; No imaginary X, Y, Z axes; No differential and Integral Equations mathematically; No General Relativity and Model does not reduce to General Relativity on any condition; No Creation of matter like Bigbang or steady-state models; No many mini Bigbangs; No Missing Mass; No Dark matter; No Dark energy; No Bigbang generated CMB detected; No Multi-verses etc.

Many predictions of Dynamic Universe Model came true, like Blue shifted Galaxies and no dark matter. Dynamic Universe Model gave many results otherwise difficult to explain

Have a look at my essay on Dynamic Universe Model and its blog also where all my books and papers are available for free downloading…

http://vaksdynamicuniversemodel.blogspot.in/

Be
st wishes to your essay.

For your blessings please…………….

=snp. gupta

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Hi Don,

your essay is a huge fun to read and sets the stage for all kinds of possible interpretations and answers to the quest of determinism / free will. The openness of your conversation reflects the openness of the question, although both persons in your essay (ha, ha) do believe to have the ultimate answer. But wait a minute, do they really believe, or are they forced to blieve due to...

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Hi Don,

your essay is a huge fun to read and sets the stage for all kinds of possible interpretations and answers to the quest of determinism / free will. The openness of your conversation reflects the openness of the question, although both persons in your essay (ha, ha) do believe to have the ultimate answer. But wait a minute, do they really believe, or are they forced to blieve due to determinism… (ha, ha). Believing to win the contest prize may be determined, while the actual result will not confirm it… (ha, ha)… due to determinism…. so you had a true belief about determinism but a false belief about its future results. Or maybe you belief in free will and are indeed right about it, but you’ve had a false belief in what it can achieve (namely winning the contest’s prize, ha, ha)!

Your short essay is a perfect mirror of the unsolved questions and a projection field to possible answers. I like it because it’s funny and it counteracts those views which pretend to know for sure what the answer is. Surely, my own answer is also only based on beliefs, but i think the main point, as always with fundamental questions, is how one rates certain probabilities for the truth of a certain answer. This i think depends on certain experiences one made during one’s life, it also depends on proper logical thinking and most of all on the experience that there are no anomalies in nature observed, for example nothing does pop up suddenly from ‘nothing’ (what a word-game!). This is, i think, in contrast to the view that existence is just a brute fact which has its origins in absolutely ‘nothing’ (not even in a mathematically empty set). Since nothing has ever popped up out of nothing (what a word-game!), i feel myself forced to conclude that nature has indeed a highly lawful behaviour (because if it had been possible for something to suddenly pop up out of nothing, these events should have been captured by some creation myths delivered to us from the past [well, but only if these creation myths have not suddenly popped out of reality into nothing again…!... and therefore aren’t available to us anymore.].

I rated your essay with the highest score and thank you very much for this enjoyable piece of paper!

Best wishes,

Stefan Weckbach

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Don

A short and delightful essay.

We observe billiard balls interacting, sharing kinetic energy back and forth to one another before slowing for table and air frictions. We coin the concept of determinism.

We learn about particle physics interactions, and note that it is in many ways comparable to the billiards.

We observe that life is made up of these objects...

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Don

A short and delightful essay.

We observe billiard balls interacting, sharing kinetic energy back and forth to one another before slowing for table and air frictions. We coin the concept of determinism.

We learn about particle physics interactions, and note that it is in many ways comparable to the billiards.

We observe that life is made up of these objects comparable somewhat to billiards and wonder if because we are made up of deterministic parts, whether determinism equals our whole?

This question is not so difficult in my mind. Billiard ball interactions are representative of a simple system, their shared causes and effects have the immediacy of the moment of contact.

Life on the other hand is not a simple system, and it has attributes which the billiards do not. Such as being freed from the limits of reacting only with immediacy, by memory which allow past experience to be drawn on and influence now or future. Also freed from immediacy by the capacity to imagine possible futures and make choices that might best lead toward perceived needs. Something special happens when a system breaks free from the limit of immediacy of interaction.

When a biological system can enter an environment and observe and rationalize many aspects of it, then make many abstract considerations based on experience of past and anticipations of future. Then from all this computed information formulate a plan that might allow for several possible predicted contingencies. Then you have a system that has become very distantly removed from the example of simple billiard interactions.

But I guess nature might have just created a mindless unconscious computer type program and been done with it. And to a large extent that is precisely what nature has done, as exampled by the human sub-conscious. But somehow, and for some reason nature seated a conscious observer type system in a seat in front of the larger computing capacity of the sub conscience. And so here we are peering through our eyes as though they are windows on the world, and talking to ourselves and also listening to ourselves within the confines of our own heads, in conscious thought.

So anyway, I feel that as soon as biology began its escape of the immediacy of interactions, it had begun migrating an ever expounding sliding scale that ends with infinity, towards choices and capacity for free will. Our experience exists somewhere along this scale, but probably not close to infinity, but also very far from being merely mindless billiard balls. So the answer is, free will does exist and is definable in terms of a sliding scale.

If you recall, you gave my essay a very generous rating and review. Thank you kindly. I have had a look at the links you provided me to your work, and I do have some questions in mind for you. I did note your prescription for dark energy acting as gravitons. Very interesting indeed. I too believe dark energy observations are closely related to considerations of gravity. We must talk about this once the contest is concluded, if you will please?

Great essay and I rate you highly

Steven Andresen

http://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/2890

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Don,

I enjoyed reading your essay. It is the stuff of art. Just a smile, a wink and a soft nudge of thought. I too am enamored with the stage. Here is one of mine:

(On stage there are two chairs for two students. A professor is standing in front of the chairs. At the beginning the students are in their chairs and a lecture is in progress. Both students have an open book and they are...

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Don,

I enjoyed reading your essay. It is the stuff of art. Just a smile, a wink and a soft nudge of thought. I too am enamored with the stage. Here is one of mine:

(On stage there are two chairs for two students. A professor is standing in front of the chairs. At the beginning the students are in their chairs and a lecture is in progress. Both students have an open book and they are both looking at the same page.)

Professor

Yada…yada, yana, yada…da, da. Wa…wa…yayaya…yadanip…yadanip…la la…da!

First Student

Da, da, da…da.

Second Student

Yada, yada…da…yada.



(Both students turn a page in unison.)

First Student

Yaya, yaya?

Professor

Yana, yana, nip…nip, wanip, wanip…da!

(Both students close their books in unison.)

Professor (cont’d)

Now that we have finished the assigned chapter we’re going to explore something outside of the textbook. For the next few minutes we’re going on an intuitive journey. We’re going to find the most important number in this universe.



First Student

How are we going to do that?

Professor

I’m going to ask you the questions and you are going to provide the answers.

Second Student

Are we going to change positions then? Are we going to be the professor and you the student?

Professor

No…as usual…you were not listening. I said that I will ask the questions and you will answer them.

First Student

That’s not fair. This is just like a test…only; we haven’t gone over the material.

Second Student

Is this actually a test? There was nothing in the syllabus about a test on this subject.

Professor

This is going to be a journey of discovery…so I’m sure that neither one of you knows the answer yet.

First Student

Do you know the answer?

Professor

I’ve already traveled this path. But we’re having a problem taking that first step together aren’t we?

First Student

Is that the first question?

Professor

We will begin when you are both sitting quietly; making direct eye contact with me and…put your pens down…this is an oral exercise.

(Pause)

Good…now the first question is…what is the most important number in the universe?

Second Student

I knew you were going to ask that question first.

Professor

Well…I’m waiting for an answer.

First Student

The most important number would have to be the smallest possible number.

Professor

Why the smallest number?

First Student

Because that’s the number that would measure the elemental basic particle…the smallest thing that is the building block for everything that exists in our universe.

Professor

So the smallest number would also be the largest possible number when you sum their total.

Second Student

I don’t understand that.

Professor

If the smallest number is the particle that builds everything that exists then it must also be the largest number when you count all of the particles that exist.

First Student

So it would be the most important number. It would be both the smallest and largest number in the universe.

Professor

Well maybe…but what other number could possibly be the most important?

Second Student

The number one. If you have one of something you have identified existence itself. The number one represents actual existence within the universe.

Professor

Yes, you could actually list everything that exists and they would be the ones in the universe. You could observe all of the ones in your environment and you could scientifically create the answer to the question…how does it exist? You can also increase its chances for survival within its observed changing environment. You can do all of this by studying the list of ones in the universe.

Second Student

That’s really important. Survival is an absolute…if we don’t exist we can’t even ask a question.

Professor

Yes…survival is necessary but we’re only answering the question of how does something exist when we’re studying the list of ones. There’s another question that preoccupies the human intellect. Why does something exist? We can’t answer that question by studying the list of ones. Studying things that already exist will not answer the question of why they exist. But still, there have been many answers to the question of why that are based on observations of the list of ones. None of these answers have unified the human experience. They are all divisive.

First Student

We have limitations. There is a point in human understanding when we have to attach ourselves to terms of faith and authority.

Professor

That’s because we still haven’t discovered the most important number in the universe.

Second Student

You’re right. We don’t know the answer. What is the most important number in the universe?

Professor

There’s another list of objects. In fact this list once included the list of ones.

First Student

So it is a changing list.

Professor

Yes…and it is a much larger list than the list of ones. The list of ones comes from this list.

First Student

So what does that list identify? Why is an object on that list?

Professor

Everything that exists must first come from this list.

Second Student

So if the universe was created…this is the list before the creation event?

Professor

Yes, this is the list of all objects, forces and relationships that could exist but do not exist.

First Student

I don’t think I understand this. What is a list of objects that could exist but do not exist?

Professor

Take your current environment. Observe the objects in it then go back a thousand years and imagine a typical environment there. Are there objects in your current environment that didn’t exist back then? And are there objects that existed back then that do not exist in your current environment?

First Student

Okay…so the list of objects that could exist but do not exist is actually the master list of all possible objects.

Professor

Yes and like the list of ones it has a number that identifies its existence on that list.

Second Student

And that’s the most important number in the universe?

Professor

Yes…what number identifies the possibility of existence but not actual existence?

First Student

Well if I start out counting some object knowing that there could be some of them in the environment that I’m observing…and I don’t find any of them…then my count is zero. So zero identifies the objects on that list.

Second Student

Zero is the most important number in the universe?

Professor

The list of zeros is the largest list. The list of zeros is the master list. It measures all of the possibility and potential within the list of ones and it has a physical existence within the environment of the list of ones.

First Student

There is something within our environment that represents…measures…all of the potential and possibility within our universe?

Professor

Yes, the dimension of space is the measure of all potential and possibility within our universe. Whether or not all possible consequences and results occur... the space is there to allow them to occur.

Second Student

But what good is a list of zeros?

Professor

It is the transition from the list of zeros to the list of ones where meaning is first attached to existence. The reason why an object exists is the reason why an object transitions from a zero to a one.

First Student

We create objects that didn’t exist in the past. We build things that didn’t exist in the past and we’re ones creating other ones.

Professor

True…but you are taking ones and transforming them from one object to another object. You are not transitioning from a zero to a one.

Second Student

Still…what good is a list of zeros? We are already ones and everything we work with is already a one.

Professor

Yes the point is that before there was a list of ones there was a list of zeros. There had to be a transition from the list of zeros to the first list of ones. That’s where meaning was first attached to the existence of a one.

Second Student

What created the list of zeros?

Professor

Now we are focusing on the correct list. The question of why do ones exist will be answered by observing the list of zeros not the list of ones.

First Student

How are we going to do that?



Professor

If you want to answer the question of why do ones exist…you will have to find a way to explore the list of zeros.

First Student

Are there different zeros?

Professor

Yes…

Second Student

The list of zeros was…if everything that exists transitions…evolves…from the list of zeros then the first act of creation was the creation of the list of zeros.

Professor

The list is only our model for understanding. The actual thing created was space. It will never be added to, modified or manipulated by anything other than God. The God thing that was created was space. From space everything that exists has evolved into a surviving reality.

First Student

But the creation of space does not answer why space was created.

Professor

God created space in order to create all possible objects, forces and relationships that are not a part of God. This is a nonspecific act of creation…everything possible was created.

First Student

Is this going to be on the test?

Professor

Not my test but your life itself needs the confidence of being able to understand that there is a step that will bring you closer to God…it is not a step forward…it is a step backward. In fact it is the distance between God and humanity that creates the potential for all of us to experience life as a self realizing individual.

First Student

How are we going to do that?

Professor

I have brought you both to a new frontier. How would you start exploring it?

Second Student

Is that a question or a challenge?

Professor

It will always be both.

(Bell rings signifying the end of the class. Both students get up to leave.)

First Student

Is this going to be on the test?

Professor

Have a good weekend.

Second Student

You too…

(Everyone leaves.)

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