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TOPIC: In all diorder but a secret order. by Diksha Dixit [refresh]
Essay Abstract
"In all disorder but a secret order " indeed a true thought BY Sir Carl Jung. Universe is that x variable which we have to solve and someday it will all add up to that simple x. Everything that we perceive in this world is purely mathematical. The different patterns that we see in the universe, the universal geometrical shapes, but why are these the way they are? We are trying to see our around world in the form of mathematics.When all the maths goes wrong in an equation we have to form new equations laws to perceive the situation it mathematically. Which is the direction science is leading us to.
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Diksha Panjab University, Chandigarh Bsc 1st year Pursuing bachelors in Physics . Delievered a prsentation on "X-ray universe:making invisible visible" in Panjab university symposium.
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"In all disorder but a secret order " indeed a true thought BY Sir Carl Jung. Universe is that x variable which we have to solve and someday it will all add up to that simple x. Everything that we perceive in this world is purely mathematical. The different patterns that we see in the universe, the universal geometrical shapes, but why are these the way they are? We are trying to see our around world in the form of mathematics.When all the maths goes wrong in an equation we have to form new equations laws to perceive the situation it mathematically. Which is the direction science is leading us to.
Author Bio
Diksha Panjab University, Chandigarh Bsc 1st year Pursuing bachelors in Physics . Delievered a prsentation on "X-ray universe:making invisible visible" in Panjab university symposium.
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Nice discussion on Intuition and Math… Diksha...
Good short essay…
Have a look at my essay also…
Best wishes…………….
=snp. Gupta
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Good short essay…
Have a look at my essay also…
Best wishes…………….
=snp. Gupta
Thank you sir
I will surely read your essay
I will surely read your essay
Dear Mr. Dixit,
Please excuse me for I have no intention of disparaging in any way any part of your essay.
I merely wish to point out that “Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler. Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955) Physicist & Nobel Laureate.”
Only nature could produce a reality so simple, a single cell amoeba could deal with it.
The real Universe must consist only of one unified visible infinite physical surface occurring in one infinite dimension, that am always illuminated by infinite non-surface light.
A more detailed explanation of natural reality can be found in my essay, SCORE ONE FOR SIMPLICITY. I do hope that you will read my essay and perhaps comment on its merit.
Joe Fisher, Realist
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Please excuse me for I have no intention of disparaging in any way any part of your essay.
I merely wish to point out that “Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler. Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955) Physicist & Nobel Laureate.”
Only nature could produce a reality so simple, a single cell amoeba could deal with it.
The real Universe must consist only of one unified visible infinite physical surface occurring in one infinite dimension, that am always illuminated by infinite non-surface light.
A more detailed explanation of natural reality can be found in my essay, SCORE ONE FOR SIMPLICITY. I do hope that you will read my essay and perhaps comment on its merit.
Joe Fisher, Realist
Sir
No offence taken and thank you for your truthfull opinion , will surely read your essay
Ps : its Ms Dixit :)
No offence taken and thank you for your truthfull opinion , will surely read your essay
Ps : its Ms Dixit :)
Dear Mr. Diksha,
Thank you for your direct and clear essay. Unfortunately, I must disagree with your premise. Specifically, you say that "Everything that we perceive in this world is purely mathematical". However, do we (who are indeed in the world) not create and perceive experiences that are qualitative? How can mathematics describe the fullness of our perception of certain Spring morning? Or our relative preference between one china pattern or another? These are all complex perceptions, but I contend they are produced at a level of complexity that is fundamentally beyond and therefore inexpressible through our current or foreseeable mathematics.
Thanks again for you contribution.
William Ekeson
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Thank you for your direct and clear essay. Unfortunately, I must disagree with your premise. Specifically, you say that "Everything that we perceive in this world is purely mathematical". However, do we (who are indeed in the world) not create and perceive experiences that are qualitative? How can mathematics describe the fullness of our perception of certain Spring morning? Or our relative preference between one china pattern or another? These are all complex perceptions, but I contend they are produced at a level of complexity that is fundamentally beyond and therefore inexpressible through our current or foreseeable mathematics.
Thanks again for you contribution.
William Ekeson
Sir
I completely agree with you on this, but I am of the same opinion as your last statement . It is also a example of mindless mathematics and new laws as far as I look at it .In science there is hardly any coincidences I believe .
Thank you
ps :its Ms Dixit
I completely agree with you on this, but I am of the same opinion as your last statement . It is also a example of mindless mathematics and new laws as far as I look at it .In science there is hardly any coincidences I believe .
Thank you
ps :its Ms Dixit
Dear Dixit,
I am happy to see your essay on the fundamental nature of mathematics that underlies everything. I agree with you that there is a simple variable 'x' that underlies it all and when solved will help us understand who we are. I request you to kindly see the essay There are no goals as such it's all play in which you will find the variable "i" in the play of "x" that helps us find the answer. I encourage you to share the truth and knowledge that you might find in several well written essays from this contest with your friends and family in India.
Love,
i.
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I am happy to see your essay on the fundamental nature of mathematics that underlies everything. I agree with you that there is a simple variable 'x' that underlies it all and when solved will help us understand who we are. I request you to kindly see the essay There are no goals as such it's all play in which you will find the variable "i" in the play of "x" that helps us find the answer. I encourage you to share the truth and knowledge that you might find in several well written essays from this contest with your friends and family in India.
Love,
i.
Dear Ms Dixit,
Also would like to share the truth that "i" is the only "relative variable" that is "absolutely constant", know the "i" in you and you will see the truth.
love,
i.
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Also would like to share the truth that "i" is the only "relative variable" that is "absolutely constant", know the "i" in you and you will see the truth.
love,
i.
Sir
I will look into your essay.
Thank you
I will look into your essay.
Thank you
Dear Ms Dixit,
I recommend that you watch this small video on divide by zero and pay attention to the final segment of 0/0, the answer to the singularity of consciousness, i, is in it, we are all that singularity i = 0/0, but appear to be different based on our approach to that i and that is duality or relativity. We are one and the same in our essence and mathematics is the proof.
Love,
i.
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I recommend that you watch this small video on divide by zero and pay attention to the final segment of 0/0, the answer to the singularity of consciousness, i, is in it, we are all that singularity i = 0/0, but appear to be different based on our approach to that i and that is duality or relativity. We are one and the same in our essence and mathematics is the proof.
Love,
i.
Diksha
I enjoyed the original and interesting proposal in your nicely written essay.
Indeed I agree there is a 'bias' in nature in the same way that there's an unexplained asymmetry of the CMB radiation. However such asymmetries ask a question 'why?', or 'how'.
I published a paper on the CMB identifying a coherent mechanism uniquely matching all data, then set about QM, which it seemed may not have had an entirely different cause. I discuss this and the 'classical derivation of QM it allows in my essay. Radical stuff! - but you seem unafraid of advancing old doctrine.
I also show how that bias you correctly identify and quantum interactions in our neural network can produce what we understand as 'aims', again consistent with your view (if not mechanism).
Well done for yours, which I feel should be better supported.
Best wishes
Peter
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I enjoyed the original and interesting proposal in your nicely written essay.
Indeed I agree there is a 'bias' in nature in the same way that there's an unexplained asymmetry of the CMB radiation. However such asymmetries ask a question 'why?', or 'how'.
I published a paper on the CMB identifying a coherent mechanism uniquely matching all data, then set about QM, which it seemed may not have had an entirely different cause. I discuss this and the 'classical derivation of QM it allows in my essay. Radical stuff! - but you seem unafraid of advancing old doctrine.
I also show how that bias you correctly identify and quantum interactions in our neural network can produce what we understand as 'aims', again consistent with your view (if not mechanism).
Well done for yours, which I feel should be better supported.
Best wishes
Peter
Hi Diksha,
I enjoyed your short and to the point essay. I personally like short essays and therefore I think you will enjoy my essay.
And I particularly like your intuition concerning gravity: "Combining gravitational laws electromagnetics laws can also lead us somewhere it is just the matter of time."
My investigation points strongly to a graviton as a special kind of photon. And this gravity has features of the bending of space-time.
Take a look at: http://prespacetime.com/index.php/pst/article/view/1188/1163
and http://prespacetime.com/index.php/pst/article/view/1101/1089
Thanks for your informative essay.
Don Limuti
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I enjoyed your short and to the point essay. I personally like short essays and therefore I think you will enjoy my essay.
And I particularly like your intuition concerning gravity: "Combining gravitational laws electromagnetics laws can also lead us somewhere it is just the matter of time."
My investigation points strongly to a graviton as a special kind of photon. And this gravity has features of the bending of space-time.
Take a look at: http://prespacetime.com/index.php/pst/article/view/1188/1163
and http://prespacetime.com/index.php/pst/article/view/1101/1089
Thanks for your informative essay.
Don Limuti
I think that scientists have been looking at our patterns and have also given the terms such as chimeras and mathematically formed the equations. There have been a lot of discoveries. We our finally closing the gap slowly.
Diksha,
Apologies for my post above, about your neighbours paper! I tend to write off the site in case of being logged out, and pasted to yours instead.
I've now read yours and enjoyed the lyrical truths and interesting view of mathematics, gravity etc.
Best wishes
Peter
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Apologies for my post above, about your neighbours paper! I tend to write off the site in case of being logged out, and pasted to yours instead.
I've now read yours and enjoyed the lyrical truths and interesting view of mathematics, gravity etc.
Best wishes
Peter
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