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October 14, 2019

CATEGORY: Trick or Truth Essay Contest (2015) [back]
TOPIC: Math: A Fabrication or Part of the Fabric by William Amos Carine [refresh]
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Author William Amos Carine wrote on Mar. 6, 2015 @ 16:18 GMT
Essay Abstract

This essay closely follows the topic of whether math is a system unto itself as something that is 'out there' that exists as a part of reality or whether it is the invention of the human mind. This writing also explores the relationship of physics to math and attempts to inform the reader of how math was a template that physics requires from an intuitive and real-life conversational stand point. The author wishes the reader to envision a casual talk in a cozy cabin near a warm fire or an exchange as the sun sets rather than a class room or an enclosed space isolated from nature. Comments are most appreciated and it is hoped that this essay may spark thoughts in the audience. The author is thankful for such a thoughtful and relevant essay topic and for all of the submissions and dialog it provides for. The author is also full of gratitude for the wonderful conversations had with and suggestions of "jamie" Gioe.

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William Amos Carine is a peasant-type leading a simple living in the middle of nowhere MO. He went to university for 2.5 years before deciding to leave the college setting to be a farm hand through the WWOOF program. He WWOOFed during most of 2014. He may return to school to become a science teacher. He spends his time doing farm projects like natural building and gardening. Free time is for music or art. With his rustic lifestyle away from the buzz of more modern ways, there is time for contemplation...

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Author William Amos Carine wrote on Mar. 11, 2015 @ 23:30 GMT
Thank you very much Fisher. Your essays are always a pleasant read. I hope you do well and look forward to next years submission from you already.

warm wishes,

william amos

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James Lee Hoover wrote on Mar. 20, 2015 @ 05:17 GMT
William,

"The universe is in constant flux and the creation of math is only one possibility which has been over - stressed in the last two- hundred to three - hundred years."

We are fortunate that our location in our galaxy is not the flux found closer to the galaxies' core and not farther away as well. So far perturbations have not led to dislodged comets from the Oort Cloud, at least in human history.

I agree that math and physics are our creations. I see the connections of math, mind, and physics in our natural world.

Regards,

Jim

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Author William Amos Carine replied on Mar. 23, 2015 @ 16:56 GMT
Thank you Jim!

It seems like humanity/the world is in the grace of some balance. The sciences show the frame work elagantly.

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Joe Fisher wrote on Apr. 8, 2015 @ 15:30 GMT
Dear William,

I think Newton was wrong about abstract gravity; Einstein was wrong about abstract space/time, and Hawking was wrong about the explosive capability of NOTHING.

All I ask is that you give my essay WHY THE REAL UNIVERSE IS NOT MATHEMATICAL a fair reading and that you allow me to answer any objections you may leave in my comment box about it.

Joe Fisher

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James Lee Hoover wrote on Apr. 16, 2015 @ 03:09 GMT
William,

I am revisiting essays I’ve read to assure I’ve rated them. Yours is one that states views clearly and vividly. I too see math as a tool of the mind and a construction in our sandbox, something that can and does change to meet changing needs. Utilizing the connections of mind, math, and physics, I cite quantum biology, DNA and LHC as examples.

I find that I did not rate yours, so I will rectify. I hope you get a chance to look at mine, as I believe we have similar ideas: http://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/2345.

Jim

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Joe Fisher wrote on Apr. 16, 2015 @ 14:25 GMT
Dear William,

Thank you for leaving a comment about my essay.

I have read the online English translation of Einstein’s 1916 book Relativity: The Special and General Theory, and in my estimation, it is the most unrealistic book that has ever been written. Einstein has an imaginary passenger throwing an imaginary rock off an imaginary train while an imaginary observer on an imaginary embankment watches to see if the phantom rock arcs in flight.

Does everybody at this site not realize that I have proven that Einstein was completely wrong about the real Universe? You people are supposed to cherish truth above all things, yet you all ignorantly refuse to credit me with my momentous discovery.

Joe Fisher

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Author William Amos Carine replied on Apr. 18, 2015 @ 18:14 GMT
Joe,

At least he had an imagination. It is a good place to begin and unfortunately it is about all i have. I guess it boils down to the whole question of this essay this year. Do we work in the realm of imaginary mathematics or is there anything else 'real' out there.

Best wishes this year!!!

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