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Vladimir Rogozhin: on 3/24/15 at 9:34am UTC, wrote Merci beaucoup, Thierry! Je ai commencé à lire votre site avec beaucoup...

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Author Thierry PERIAT wrote on Mar. 4, 2015 @ 17:23 GMT
Essay Abstract

Mathematics is part of physics. It is its skeleton, its intrinsic motor. The partition between mathematics and physics is artificial and an unpleasant consequence of the Cartesian method. It pushes us into a totally unproductive schizophrenic attitude which is extremely dangerous for the survival of our societies.

Author Bio

Thierry Periat was a dentist until the end of 2007. He is actually working for the French Health administration, following diverse programs related to the prevention. His second leg is the radioprotection and his passion for mathematical physics is quite so old than himself. He is presenting his theoretical work on vixra and on diverse personal websites. Although this contest is a serious thing because it is connected with an important amount of money, he is just presenting an essay for the sport.

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Armin Nikkhah Shirazi wrote on Mar. 16, 2015 @ 08:48 GMT
Dear Thierry,

Your essay is unique in that it is the only one that I have seen so far that frames the relation between mathematics and physics in political terms. I think you propose an interesting idea that is worthy of further study. I have a question, though: could the same argument that you gave for how the social stratification is brought about by the separation of mathematics and physics not be applied to any area of human endeavor? After all, in any such area, there will be spectrum of abilities, and who is to say that the same mechanism you mentioned in your paper would not lead to the same consequences in that area?

If so, then the issue you point out is just one out of many aspects of human activity that could be destabilizing to society. My essay from last year's essay contest was also primarily political and had to do with stratification of society, though of a slightly different kind than what you proposed. Nevertheless, you might still enjoy it:

http://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/2102

By the way, my background is in pharmacy, and I did work in a public health setting, before I became interested in this area that lies at the intersection between physics, philosophy and mathematics and decided to seriously pursue it.

Best wishes,

Armin

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Author Thierry PERIAT replied on Mar. 16, 2015 @ 19:56 GMT
Well I did read your last year essay and state that it is effectively parented with mine. Thank you for your comment and for indicating me your work.

If you allow, I would say that both essays are indirectly telling a question about the existence of a (natural?) mechanism of selection pushing a few from us at the top of a pot containing so many others. This is a fascinating question and I...

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Vladimir Rogozhin wrote on Mar. 23, 2015 @ 19:30 GMT
Dear Thierry,

Very interesting look at mathematics and physics. I agree with you. But how to connect the Cartesian "res cogitans" and "res extensa"? Where is the meeting point of the "two worlds"?

John Archibald Wheeler left to physicists and mathematicians a good philosophical precept: "Philosophy is too important to be left to the philosophers".When physicists and mathematicians speak about the structure and the laws of Universum for some reason they forget about lyricists that the majority on Mother Earth. I believe that the scientific picture of the world should be the same rich senses of the "LifeWorld» (E.Husserl), as a picture of the world lyricists , poets and philosophers:

We do not see the world in detail,

Everything is insignificant and fractional ...

Sadness takes me from all this.
( Alexander Vvedensky,1930)

It is by a mathematical point only that we are wise,

as the sailor or the fugitive slave keeps the polestar in his eye;

but that is sufficient guidance for all our life.

We may not arrive at our port within a calculable period,

but we would preserve the true course.
(Henry David Thoreau, 1854)

Fundamental knowledge, mathematics and physics, requires a deep ontological justification (basification). In fundamental physics is necessary to introduce an ontological standard justification (basification) along with the empirical standard. I invite you to see and appreciate my analysis of the philosophical foundations of mathematics and physics, the method of ontological constructing a new basis of unified knowledge - the primordial generating structure, "La Structure mère" as the ontological framework, carcass and foundation of knowledge, the core of which - the ontological (structural, cosmic) memory.

Kind regards,

Vladimir

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Author Thierry PERIAT replied on Mar. 24, 2015 @ 00:33 GMT
Thanks so much for the link. I shall think about the "structure mère"...

For now, I would like to give you this answer.

A girl/boy wants to discover how her/his toy works in breaking it into its constitutive parts. After a while, (s)he is able to describe exactly the diverse parts but absolutely unable to reconstruct it. The description is not equivalent to the understanding....

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Vladimir Rogozhin replied on Mar. 24, 2015 @ 09:34 GMT
Merci beaucoup, Thierry! Je ai commencé à lire votre site avec beaucoup d'intérêt.

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