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CATEGORY: How Should Humanity Steer the Future? Essay Contest (2014) [back]
TOPIC: Global Warming is Causing Hell to Freeze Over: The subsumption of empirical science and religion under corporate science in an epistemic paradigm shift. by Terence Thorne [refresh]
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Author Terence Thorne wrote on Apr. 25, 2014 @ 13:20 GMT
Essay Abstract

It is well documented that there are certain corporate, political and religious interests whose mission is to weaken part or all of science. For the foreseeable future, these powerful interests will continue their aggressive and well-funded campaigns to weaken science. This satirical essay answers the question, "What if what we are witnessing is the birth of a new epistemology – corporate science?" Corporate science will be the natural morphing of American pragmatism and American capitalism. Looking at an early adopter of corporate epistemology, the NeoGeoTheoThermal Theory Society, we get a glimpse of the future of science. In the future we can look to corporate science to lead the way in profitable scientific advancement. Unfettered by the scientific method, a credible peer review system, and the need to provide actual evidence for its theories, corporate science will surely be as profitable in the future as it is has been in the past.

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Terence W. Thorne holds an MA in Philosophy of Language from the University of Victoria.

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Tihamer T. Toth-Fejel wrote on Apr. 27, 2014 @ 12:07 GMT
Dear Terence,

You *do* realize that the NeoGeoTheoThermal Theory Society is a parody religion, don't you? It is even listed as one at http://search.thunderstone.com/texis/websearch19/?c=Society_
and_Culture+Religion+Humor+Parody_Religions

Once you realize that, it's falling onto the floor funny (my stomach still hurts from laughing so hard).

If you are serious about your claims about "corporate science", you might consider Stalin's attempts to force Lysenkoism onto the Soviet Union, thereby keeping his country from benefiting from the advances in genetics for a generation.

In summary, you are correct that some people simply don't like reality as it is, and will do anything to ignore that reality. But the rest of the world will move on, and those live in a fantasy will be left behind (sometimes with fatal consequences).

If it helps, think of it as evolution in action.

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Author Terence Thorne replied on Apr. 27, 2014 @ 20:23 GMT
Dear Tihamer,

Thank you for your comments. I am pleased to see that someone gets the humour and, more importantly, the point of my satirical essay.

Yes, I do know that my creation, TheNeoGeoTheoThermalTheorySociety.com is a satirical website. I mention in the abstract that my whole essay is satirical. Furthermore, in the essay itself, I refer to "the satirical website, TheNeoGeoTheoThermalTheorySociety.com."

I hope you are correct that "those who don't like reality as it is" will be left behind by reason and progress. However, I still think we must be ever vigilant of the danger to all of us posed by the very real and very powerful corporate, religious and political forces that seek to return us to pre-enlightenment epistemology.

BTW, your example of Lysenkoism is spot on. Thank you for the reference.

Terence

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murat Asgatovich gaisin wrote on Apr. 28, 2014 @ 05:10 GMT
Dear Terence W. Thorne,

The corruption of science will lead to the destruction of science.

You have valid criticism. Therefore highly appreciated your article. I argue in my article, that modern physics is closed to criticism.

Regards,

Murat Asgatovich Gaisin

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Author Terence Thorne replied on May. 3, 2014 @ 07:05 GMT
Dear Murat Asgatovich Gaisin,

Thank you for reading my essay and for your positive comments.

Regards,

Terence

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Margarita Iudin wrote on Apr. 28, 2014 @ 22:11 GMT
Hello Terence,

I truly appreciate the topic your chose for your satire.

I think most people who called themselves scientists are no scientists at all. They are too much materialists, too much conformists. Conformist could never become a scientist. Conformists do not try to change the existing order of things and adopt everything the majority chose to fancy. There is nothing to do...

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Author Terence Thorne replied on May. 3, 2014 @ 07:02 GMT
Dear Margarita,

Thank you for your thoughtful comment, especially for your insight into how nonconformity is integral to science.

Regards,

Terence

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Anonymous wrote on Apr. 29, 2014 @ 01:51 GMT
Dear Terence,

The NeoGeoTheoThermal Theory Society is a parody religion, and your abstract says that your essay is satirical, but the problem with such essays is that the satire must be relatively obvious. Often, your statements were so opaque that they weren't funny, and they weren't even wrong.

If you are serious about your claims about the dangers of "corporate science", then you...

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Author Terence Thorne replied on May. 3, 2014 @ 07:07 GMT
Dear Anonymous,

Thank you for reading my essay and for your thoughtful comments.

Regards,

Terence

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James Dunn wrote on Apr. 29, 2014 @ 16:00 GMT
The sole purpose of Science is to study God's Works and remove ALL influence of mankind.

ALL Religions study the works of man, and many if not most denounce the works of God.

Example: First page of Bible, Genesis, all the heavens and Earth were created in 6 days. Many thousands have studied God's Works and determined this to be false. Yet religions choose to trust the writings of...

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Author Terence Thorne replied on May. 3, 2014 @ 07:11 GMT
Dear James Dunn,

Thank you for reading my essay.

Your comments have given me a lot to think about.

Regards.

Terence

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Peter Jackson wrote on May. 2, 2014 @ 20:35 GMT
Terence,

Brilliant Essay! I think it's great idea and you should be given a Nobel Inc. prize. If anything is going to get us out of the theoretical rut we're in it's new imaginative thinking like that. I saw no downsides in your assessment.

We've had this major problem since the Planck time ran out (it was far too short anyway) and old professors dying off started failing as the...

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Author Terence Thorne replied on May. 3, 2014 @ 07:26 GMT
Dear Peter,

Your response to my essay is hilarious. I really appreciate the time and effort you have taken.

Thank you.

Terence

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Lawrence B Crowell wrote on May. 4, 2014 @ 17:53 GMT
Terrence,

A touch of humor does work here. In reality the joke is about as funny as chocolate covered blasting caps; it sounds funny at first but … . Levity does though have a way taking one above the angst of it all. The freezing over of hell might just be a good idea, for I suppose that is about all we can expect, while the true Americans will be raptured into heaven.

LC

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Author Terence Thorne replied on May. 5, 2014 @ 17:53 GMT
Dear Lawrence,

Thank you for reading my essay. I like your "as funny as chocolate covered blasting caps" analogy.

Best regards.

Terence

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Joe Fisher wrote on May. 5, 2014 @ 16:19 GMT
Dear Mr. Thome,

Your essay provided me with a some deep insights I did not expect. I do hope that it does well in the competition.

Regards,

Joe Fisher

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Author Terence Thorne wrote on May. 5, 2014 @ 17:55 GMT
Dear Joe,

Thank you for reading my essay and for your kind words.

Best regards.

Terence

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George Gantz wrote on May. 8, 2014 @ 00:09 GMT
Terence -

Thanks for the unique approach. I've set a goal of reading all the essays and yours was a delightful interlude in what I have to admit is mighty boring stuff. On the serious side, it is clear that science is having a credibility problem. A recent AP/GfK poll (noted in The Week, May 2) reported American's growing skepticism of science: 51% doubt the Big Bang, 42% doubt...

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Author Terence Thorne wrote on May. 8, 2014 @ 08:16 GMT
Dear George,

Well said. I think you are right. There are many factors contributing to the situation. Thank you for reading my essay, and I applaud your dedication to reading them all.

Best regards.

Terence

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Anonymous wrote on May. 12, 2014 @ 03:35 GMT
Hi Terence,

I enjoyed your essay both as a satire and as an essay making a very serious point about the power of corporate science.

The world according to monsanto Documentary.

Good luck, Georgina

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Author Terence Thorne replied on May. 13, 2014 @ 05:43 GMT
Hi Georgina,

Thank you for your kind comments and for reading my essay.

I will definitely check out the documentary.

Good luck to you, too.

Terence

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Michael muteru wrote on May. 16, 2014 @ 14:00 GMT
hi Terence

very articulate nice work,informative.i talk about closed societies,beliefs and what may befall them if they continue that way in my essay LIVING IN THE SHADOWS OF THE SUN: REALITIES, PERILS ESCAPADES MAN, PLANET AND KARDASHEV SCALE.MAKING THE GREAT TRANSITION by Michael muteru weblink http://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/2101 .kindly take your time to read/review it.thanks all the best

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Author Terence Thorne wrote on May. 17, 2014 @ 07:07 GMT
Thank you, Michael, for your kind comments.

Your essay has an intriguing title.

Regards,

Terence

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James Lee Hoover wrote on May. 22, 2014 @ 20:39 GMT
Terence,

As comedians say, "Irony is ironic." Your points should be published in all media sources to emphasize the toxic effect of corporate culture.

My essay too speaks of the corruption of science and, in effect, the dominance of corporations in our society. I "look beyond" to break the yoke of orthodoxy and progress beyond our Earthly sphere and "within" to utilize unused brain capacity.

I would like to hear your thoughts on my message as well.

Jim

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Author Terence Thorne replied on May. 23, 2014 @ 08:17 GMT
Jim,

I'm glad you appreciated my essay.

Thank you for your encouraging comment.

Terence

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James Lee Hoover replied on Jun. 1, 2014 @ 18:06 GMT
Terence,

Having had rating problems with my Firefox browser and with some 4 days remaining, I am revisiting essays I've read to see if rated. I find that I rated yours on 5/22.

Would like to see your thoughts on mine: http://www.fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/2008

Jim

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Israel Perez wrote on May. 25, 2014 @ 02:49 GMT
Dear Terence

I just read your essay, which is short and easy to read. In my view science has grown as a desire to oppose mysticism and fanaticism. So, indeed, science is well organized and its purpose is to generate knowledge.

I never thought that people believe that hell can freeze by just extracting the fuel. I'm learning new stuff in this contest!

I'll be glad if you could take a look at my essay and leave some comments. In my work I discuss some of the main players that can steer the future of humanity.

Best Regards

Israel

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Author Terence Thorne replied on May. 26, 2014 @ 04:44 GMT
Dear Israel,

Thank you for reading my essay and for your interesting comment.

Best Regards,

Terence

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Don Limuti wrote on May. 26, 2014 @ 03:59 GMT
Hi Terence,

I am still laughing. Your satire is devastating.

I agree completely that any theory that promises to prevent a zombie apocalypse is the way to steer humanity into the future. I think Lawrence recommended funny chocolate covered blasting caps. Will they work on corporate Zombies?

Don Limuti

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Author Terence Thorne replied on May. 26, 2014 @ 04:52 GMT
Dear Limuti,

I am pleased that you found my essay so funny and effective.

Thank you for your entertaining comment.

Terence.

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Ross Cevenst wrote on May. 28, 2014 @ 11:07 GMT
Hi Terence,

I enjoy it whenever I see a strong argument a bit of a sense of humour combined. I disagree with some others - I think it works well and I don't think it was too subtle at all, and think you could milk some even greater humour out this idea by being even more subtle. In a way your style in parts of the essay reminded me a little of A Modest Proposal (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_modest_proposal).

Your point is well taken and an in itself it makes me a little sad. It's in no-one's interests, inluding the corporate world, to allow ourselves to become detached from reality. So I hope we don't go further walking down this path. I think sensible people in religions AND corporations still believe that too, but it only takes a few misguided people to attack and ruin science for everybody. I agree with George in that science must also address its own problems. At the same time, we are so indebted to science for the precious gift of modern health and education that its deeply saddening to see that gift taken for granted because it is some way confronting to listen to.

Thanks for a great essay in any case. I'd love to hear your thoughts on my own entry. It's a little different also in that it conveys serious ideas using elements of science fiction, but I'll hope you'll like it and rate it all the same! I think ratings are closed in the next few days so my fingers are crossed that'll you'll have the time. Good luck!

Ross

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Author Terence Thorne replied on May. 30, 2014 @ 00:08 GMT
Hi Ross,

Thank you for you thoughtful critique of my essay. I appreciate your point about people taking the fruits of science for granted. Thanks for the insight.

Good luck in the contest.

Regards,

Terence

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Peter Jackson wrote on May. 30, 2014 @ 18:59 GMT
Terence,

I'm glad you liked my humour (2nd May) and I was serious about the high originality value and moot points so have returned help your score. I'm not sure if you've read mine (I'm a bit swamped with posts) but hope you do and like it.

Well done and thanks.

Peter

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Author Terence Thorne replied on Jun. 2, 2014 @ 03:57 GMT
Thanks again, Peter.

Terence

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Neil Bates wrote on Jun. 2, 2014 @ 00:24 GMT
Terence, it is sad that the power of big money is making much of your sarcastic vision come true, especially in the USA. There is value in demarcating how not to steer (as for example in satire) as a way to warn us away from such dystopian results. We need genuine independent research now more than ever, I hope such a social order can be attained because it will be very difficult to steer the future in any way other than just as servants of the top 0.1 percent if we do not.

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Author Terence Thorne replied on Jun. 2, 2014 @ 04:11 GMT
Neil,

I am encouraged by the number of contributors to this forum who value the integrity and independence of science. Thank you for your comment.

Regards

Terry

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Margriet Anne O'Regan wrote on Jun. 4, 2014 @ 07:43 GMT
Bravo Terence !!

All I can say is 'ditto' most of the above comments!!!

Nothing like a bit of comic relief to help get things in perspective.

And yes I'd love it if you read & rate my essay none other than that of a fellow Ozzie, which contribution stands second in the 'submissions' line up. And if you like novelty any where near as much as you like humour, you're in for a treat !!!!! Hehe !!

Cheers

Margriet Anne O'Regan

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