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1."..human consciousness is limited by the unknown needs of the total cellular life and the living Earth"

The needs of the total cellular life and the living Earth are unknown. We put our human needs in a front row and project them to the other cellular life forms. Do we really know what human needs are? happiness, intellectual and practical success, good health, fine food, a...

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Hello:

1."..human consciousness is limited by the unknown needs of the total cellular life and the living Earth"

The needs of the total cellular life and the living Earth are unknown. We put our human needs in a front row and project them to the other cellular life forms. Do we really know what human needs are? happiness, intellectual and practical success, good health, fine food, a variety of impressions making us feel what it means to be in this world?

What for does corporeal life exist? If you have a reasonable answer to this question you can proceed questionings about needs of the corporeal life.

There is no complete answer. Goethe said that we live to live (to experience what this world is and what we are capable to). A biologist would say that cellular life forms exist to facilitate recycling...

2."The future of humanity is in an optimal transformation of the human conscience and physical body." That sounds like evolution to me. But do you have some kind of brain extension, body enhancement, trans-human future in mind? You have not made it clear.

I am sorry to remind you that brain (by the way, what about spinal brain?) is only a structure, albeit physical structure. The facilities that most of the cellular life uses for cognition are very different from brain.

2. I am not implying bio-engineering and I am not implying observing and imaging by separate individuals.

I mean changes to human collective awareness happen without your personal acknowledgment.

About observations -

-You are not the same as before when you wake up in the morning, though you may believe that you are the same.

-The ways we know and do things are very simple, but nobody in the world can explain you these ways for the good reason.

-It is possible to observe from outside and from within.

3. I am sorry, enlightenment is not about serotonin levels ( an even not about hormonal balancing - different from one person to another, so on). People who take drugs often experience "something" (their serotonin, dopamine etc. are up)which is definitely not enlightenment.

Everyone has his/her own biochemical description/ biochemistry. There is also statistical information across population which can be used as an indicator of hormonal balancing.

Thank you for reading and for your questions,

Margarita

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Margatita,

1.Thank you for 'translating'. There is a hierarchy of needs. Many of the things you mention would be high up on the hierarchy while basic needs for survival would be at the base. It is only when the lower down needs are fulfilled that higher ones become relevant to the organism. You ask "Why does corporeal life exist"? The answer depends upon whether one is taking a scientific...

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Margatita,

1.Thank you for 'translating'. There is a hierarchy of needs. Many of the things you mention would be high up on the hierarchy while basic needs for survival would be at the base. It is only when the lower down needs are fulfilled that higher ones become relevant to the organism. You ask "Why does corporeal life exist"? The answer depends upon whether one is taking a scientific or spiritual point of view, The Selfish Gene by Richard Dawkins,Oxford university press, 1976, does a good job of addressing that why question from a biological point of view. I have also heard it said that we are spiritual beings having a human experience,and have also said and heard words to the effect that life forms are the universe observing itself, which may be closer to your standpoint.

2. thanks again for the 'translation'. So you are saying the future of humanity is alteration of the collective consciousness of mankind and alteration man's morphology. Yes I expect we will think differently in the future. In what way optimized and how is that brought about? Do you mean learning the error of our ways? Education? Learning from research? Or some kind of selection pressure affecting both form and consciousness? That might happen if mankind goes through an evolutionary bottle neck, and the survivors become founders of a new species.

3.I beg to differ on the enlightenment question. I was not necessarily talking about illegal drugs but any means of attaining alteration of normal brain chemistry that makes a person feel (and "know" )that they are one with all of nature. 1/Serotonergic and trytamine overstimulation, 2/Serotonon and spirituality,3/ Can our level of serotonin affect how spiritual we are

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Margarita,

I'm sorry if I left you with a limited impression, as that was only one feature of my entry. I agree civilizations like to put everyone to work and pointed in one direction, which they control. In an entry in a previous FQXI contest, I make the point that our problem with understanding time is that we experience it as a sequence of events and so think of it as the present...

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Margarita,

I'm sorry if I left you with a limited impression, as that was only one feature of my entry. I agree civilizations like to put everyone to work and pointed in one direction, which they control. In an entry in a previous FQXI contest, I make the point that our problem with understanding time is that we experience it as a sequence of events and so think of it as the present moving from past to future, when the underlaying reality is its the changing configuration that turns future into past. Tomorrow becomes yesterday because the world turns. This makes time similar to temperature. Time is frequency, while temperature is amplitude. As collections of people, we function much more like thermodynamics, with the movement of any one part balanced by the movements of all the other parts. This is natural stability. Yet because we are mobile organism and so move in a particular direction, there is a strong tendency for lots of people to get together and all move in the same direction, eventually called history. This creates an unbalanced situation. Currently one of the forces causing lots of people to move in one direction is the financial system and how it is designed by those running it to extract value from the rest of society, which then makes everyone swirl around this system, like water going down a drain.

Regards,

John

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Dear Arthur

This essay is a digest of several articles of the Post-Gaia Doctrine. The Doctrine is indeed has to do something with the Earth's matters, but not only. Lynn Margulis is dead, and James Lovelock is about 95 years old. I am not sure that they would agree with me. They were attacked many times and over time their views had changed, had became more moderate.

If you are...

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Dear Arthur

This essay is a digest of several articles of the Post-Gaia Doctrine. The Doctrine is indeed has to do something with the Earth's matters, but not only. Lynn Margulis is dead, and James Lovelock is about 95 years old. I am not sure that they would agree with me. They were attacked many times and over time their views had changed, had became more moderate.

If you are interested to have a look at the Doctrine, let me know. Presently, I am trying to downsize to make it more accessible.

Thank you for your comments.

Q?..understanding emerges that life's chances for ultimate survival can only be enhanced by promoting its propagation beyond Earth. And today, life on Earth has actually reached the point in its evolution via the human species where it would indeed be feasible for it to propagate in other parts of the universe..

A? human life [form] belongs here and it will not go anywhere; I believe that

there are other forms of life on Earth, for instance, microbial life, non-organic life , etc. that can go (S. Arrhenius, 1903, "The Distribution of Life in...".

Human life is definitely an intermediate life form, the one that has its own history of successes and failures. I am fond of sky watching, stargazing and I pray for the continuation of cosmos exploration, because it opens horizons of knowledge.

This all does not matter. The submitted essay was about how people think and what people can get out of their thinking (imagining) facilities - to imagine and steer the future

Good luck,

MI

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Margarita,

Many thanks for your post on my essay. I reproduce my response here for your convenience. Reminded by James I did indeed rate yours. I never declare exactly what but it always reflects my comments, clearly favourable. I also haven't rated some. I hope we can discuss my (full!) response, ..as follows;

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"Thanks for your interesting post. I agree rating is...

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Margarita,

Many thanks for your post on my essay. I reproduce my response here for your convenience. Reminded by James I did indeed rate yours. I never declare exactly what but it always reflects my comments, clearly favourable. I also haven't rated some. I hope we can discuss my (full!) response, ..as follows;

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"Thanks for your interesting post. I agree rating is inconsistent between authors. I consistently use the criteria, which I think mine fits well, but we do wrongly tend to favour things we also 'agree' with. Mine seems to be love or hate, I've had many '1' scores with no comments upping the total. Few seem to identify fundamental 'cause' of change as opposed to 'symptoms', but history's clear, it's new understanding of nature and technology that brings revolutionary advancement from stagnation.

On scores; I showed last year they mean little, but they do bring attention, needed in this case. The table is in the end notes, which is what they're for, and are findings of a REAL experiment! The essay discusses an important new conceptualisation of the real physical mechanism which QM entirely lacks, but is certainly nothing AT ALL like the draft scientific paper I promise! (you'd find an early draft buried on 'classical sphere's'.

Your comments on "form/conceptualisation" and; "something that may exist" confuse me. I'm not sure if you realise that QM entirely lacks BOTH of those! It always has. That (we may agree then?) along with a concept of 'time' inconsistent with relativity, is why it retains the EPR paradox and no classical (physical) explanation. THAT is what I now provide; the simple physical geometrical model to reproduce the findings that 'QM' claims are only explainable in terms of 'probability'.

You then say; "I think your model assumptions are incorrect. You may want to find somebody in the field and have alive conversation and verify your assumptions." Which assumptions? I find remove more (unsupported) hidden ones than I invoke, and I invoke only known science from other fields, and give references! They are;

Electron spin flip, Gauged helicity, Non-mirror symmetry of spin, (see the ref's or just google) and the fact that opposite spin hemisphere's rotate in different directions (Earths N= anticlockwise, S = clockwise) with a non-linear distribution of rotation speed between pole and equator. All I've done is bring those coherently together.

Now if you still do think any are incorrect do please identify so I can check!

You also suggest I; "look into the vorticity and gyroscope models in 2D and 3D and potential vorticity maps" They were indeed early starting points, and all valid, viz; Imagine holding a gyro by the spin axis poles. Look from one end, it's clockwise, and opposite from the other. Now look at the middle, it's either spinning 'up' or 'down'. QM goes no further than considering a single snapshot. I just point out that the ends can be swapped (by switching EM field direction). Now imagine doing so, by switching the poles round between hands. You now find spin UP from the SAME 'particle', with conserved OAM! That inherent duality is what current QM doesn't recognise or accept!!

Of course I've discussed it with many 'in the field'. Some recognise it and are scared that the beliefs embedded in their psyche may be wrong, most scream and look away. We can't advance science by checking it against past science to ensure it's the same! The model is scientifically falsified, but needs the 'new way of thinking' that Bob demonstrates reveals the answer, which allows unification of the two "great pillars" of physics, called the Holy Grail of science. I've identified that history shows that only that can let us escape from this rut and progress! In fact the changes to QM are quite small and reflect von Neuman and Godel's conceptions. Uncertainty is only relegated to the next gauge down. It's the implications for other physics that are wider.

I'm disappointed I didn't get that across to all, and that you disagree. If it's the latter pleased do specify with what. It may be wrong or incomplete but I can't find where. Part of the value for all here is the wide falsification of hypotheses.

If you wish more technical details do see my last post to Tom (under Doug 17/5 above) though Tom isn't 'in the field' and does have his own agenda. Thank you for expressing your doubts and giving me the opportunity to address them. I do look forward to any further specifics."

Best wishes

Peter

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