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Tommy,

When I spotted you name on the list I smiled. Is it two years you've been away? You haven't lost your style and sure didn't disappoint. From wading through some essays begging them to end, even baling out, yours ended too soon, at once relevant, insightful, irreverend and a bunch of other adjectives.

But lets talk future. I think I have a way to get there quicker, using a...

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Tommy,

When I spotted you name on the list I smiled. Is it two years you've been away? You haven't lost your style and sure didn't disappoint. From wading through some essays begging them to end, even baling out, yours ended too soon, at once relevant, insightful, irreverend and a bunch of other adjectives.

But lets talk future. I think I have a way to get there quicker, using a quantum leap in science (in my essay). From the same foundations, as an astronomophysicist, a paper on cyclic galaxy and cosmic evolution finds yes, we are indeed doomed, at least in our current cycle, but there's a possible escape hatch, and anyway we just keep on coming back forever re-ionized (a bit like the Enterprise transported but AGN powered).

Ok 10 Bn times we may be rocks or gas, but forever is a long time so it's inevitable our brain cells eventually form part of some other sentient beings brain. Eventually we'll be everyone and everything, just one at a time. And if being dead is like as sleeping, we wont see the time pass so it's be immediate. Of course we may not remember much...

Fantasy? Ok. Perhaps. But there's an extraordinary amount od f evidence (check out the likeness between a quasar jet outflow and the cosmic 'axis of evil' flow, and the dynamics, helicity etc compared to the CMB anisotropies).

The 'escape hatch' is to jump a local outflow, then the big one, because some outlying 'halo' matter doesn't get accreted and recycled (7 galactic anomalies resolved right there!). So we may have a choice. Keep this garb for the next ride, or jump in the carousel to see where we end up next. Crazy? Perhaps we have to be! But the science is dead serious.

Now as you've been completely ignored here I'm honoured to have the chance to kick you off with a bang. Of course your first score can't be a 10, but an honest score puts you in the lead as the trolls have struck and will hit you too. I could wait...but lets' get you going. Now our first task is to unify physics so we can get out of this 100 year rut. The science is no problem (see essay), but are our brains well enough evolved to recognise it. Many not so far it seems. Cest la vie. Tell me what you think.

Best wishes

Peter

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Tommy,

I have to say I avoided reading your essay because I think moving off the planet in any serious technological fashion is delusion, for many of the reasons you list in your essay. Yet having read various of your comments on other threads, it's obvious you are an extremely intelligent person and this essay doesn't disappoint. I still think it's delusional though. Though we may be the...

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Tommy,

I have to say I avoided reading your essay because I think moving off the planet in any serious technological fashion is delusion, for many of the reasons you list in your essay. Yet having read various of your comments on other threads, it's obvious you are an extremely intelligent person and this essay doesn't disappoint. I still think it's delusional though. Though we may be the mechanism by which elemental biology does project itself to other worlds, it isn't as an organized and recordable method.

I have to say I approach the world situation from a much more bottom up, organic process/direction and I perceive projections upward and outward as cyclical and presuming to project our current progress as to continue compounding out among the stars as overlooking a lot of the negative feedback currently built up in this system. I suppose you might pigeonhole me as a doom and gloomer, but I think there is a great deal of opportunity in this situation as well. There is a lot of energy and potential leverage in collapsing systems and as the concept of punctuated equilibrium argues, these are the best opportunities for real change. As such I think any issue of steering humanity for our generation, or the next several, would be much more planetary, than cosmic.

Personally, if the way biology functions is any lesson, life on this planet would be evolving toward being a global organism, with human civilization as its functional central nervous system. Currently though, we are simply top predator in a collapsing ecosystem and to change that will require much more introspection of who and what we are, than trying to project current methods and assumptions in a forward fashion. For one thing, there is a great deal of conceptual diversity built into the system, to where we do already function quite well as either hive minds, or individual operators, depending on circumstance. It is almost an electromagnetic function.

I think there are numerous unexamined aspects of how we function. In my own entry I point out the dichotomy of energy and information is manifest in our physiological dichotomy of an information processing central nervous system and energy processing in the digestive/respiratory systems, with the circulatory system as its delivery mechanism. This primarily to lead up to what I see as the current major fallacy in our civil functioning, ie. treating money as a commodity, rather than a contract.

There are many other aspects to physiology reflecting reality. For another, I see the two hemispheres of the brain as a thermostat(scalar) and clock(linear) processor. Primarily we like to have enough information/energy coming in to be interested, ie, not bored, but not so much as to get frustrated/angry/overheated.

So if we want to begin to peel away the layers of what it means to be alive, it isn't so much a function of simply expanding our mental processing out to ever more area, but understanding the dichotomy of awareness and knowledge. Our sense of awareness is that innate sense of self, which knowledge is the information it absorbs and manifests. You might say awareness is like an energy constantly expanding outward, while information is the form and structure it manifests and which give it shape. This sets up a conflict actually, as the sense of awareness is constantly testing and pushing the boundaries of this form, while the form tends to restrain and define it. So if you were to start packaging this sense of self into forms it can corrode and break down, it will. As the old saying goes, life is the leading cause of death.

Which all goes to say that while some of your hypotheses may be valid, in the distant future, there are significant hurtles to overcome.

Regards,

John Merryman

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Dear Anderberg,

I agree your statement:

"If you think we have a global warming problem now, just wait another billion years (Ga); by then, the oceans will have all but evaporated, CO₂ levels will be too low to sustain photo-synthesis, and the biosphere will collapse (yes, the long term problem is too little CO₂, not too much)."

As per 'Eigen-rotational...

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Dear Anderberg,

I agree your statement:

"If you think we have a global warming problem now, just wait another billion years (Ga); by then, the oceans will have all but evaporated, CO₂ levels will be too low to sustain photo-synthesis, and the biosphere will collapse (yes, the long term problem is too little CO₂, not too much)."

As per 'Eigen-rotational Clusters of String-matter paradigm of Universe', decay and extinction of carbon and life forms is descriptive by the homeomorphic dynamics of the segments of Holarchical Universe in eigen-rotational string-matter continuum. This eventuality can only be delayed by specific environmental regulation strategies, but not be preventable.

With best wishes,

Jayakar

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