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Author Vladimir Rogozhin wrote on Apr. 16, 2014 @ 20:30 GMT
Essay AbstractUniverse silence … Why? TechnoSfera … Where does it move? BioSfera … Where is the “non-return point”? NooSfera … What to do? The deep mind looks for primordial senses of the “LifeWorld”(“LebensWelt”). Сonsciousness, matter, memory … Self-Consciousness… Сonsciousness is attracting senses vector magnitude, intentional effect of absolute complexity. The Vector of Сonsciousness - the Triune Vector of absolute forms of existence of matter (limit states), the Vector of the Absolute Existential Field of the Universe, a polyvalent sense phenomenon of Ontological (structural, cosmic) Memory. Open Сonsciousness Vs. Closed Сonsciousness. On the basis of ontological and existential constracting method – method of a discretion and a reflection of existential repère-point, the Vector of Сonsciousness places milestones on ProtoGeometre's long way – the way of “knowledge of good and evil”, of rises and fallings, of births of “absolutely another”, from the point “Alpha” to the modern “point” of ultimate tension of the Absolute Existential Field of the Universe. Existential risks of Humanity and Open Science. New Open Generation realizing all existential risks of Humanity passable way and risks of coming Information era creates the Self-Aware Universe, filling it with the most deep meanings of the “LifeWorld”, at the heart of which Axiom of an absolute freedom of choice is laid. The minimum Program to overcome existential risks. The United Humanity raises up five Great Philosophers' Stones in memory of Protogeometre's rises and fallings on a long way of becoming of Humanity. Humanity is on a threshold of an Era of Eonic thinking.
Author BioEngineer (MPEI), economist (Russian Foreign Trade Academy), independent researcher since 1989: ontology, philosophy of physics and mathematics, philosophy of Сonsciousness, member of XX World Congress of Philosophy (Boston, 1998), I-IV Russian Philosophical Congress (1997-2005), The First Conference "Philosophy of Physics: actual problems", The Third Russian Conference "Philosophy of Mathematics: actual problems" (MSU, 2010, 2013). general manager INTERNETIA Co Ltd: intellectual social networks. My beloved daughter Victoria supported me at creation of my essays. We are convinced that Philosophy - the most rigorous and joyous Science for the greater Good of all Humanity.
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Author Vladimir Rogozhin wrote on Apr. 17, 2014 @ 09:54 GMT
Dear friends,
I give the link to my blog
in Russian and the full text essay
in English
Author Vladimir Rogozhin replied on Apr. 17, 2014 @ 11:04 GMT
Jayakar Johnson Joseph wrote on Apr. 18, 2014 @ 06:30 GMT
Dear Vladimir,
I think,
Non environment-friendly Humanity is causal for the accelerating metamorphoses of Earth by the dynamics of the universe that effects Genetic degradation on physical capabilities of Human. This may proceed with the destruction of Humanity while independent protein clusters of virus may survive till the organic matters of earth changes to inorganic.
With best wishes,
Jayakar
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Author Vladimir Rogozhin replied on Apr. 18, 2014 @ 09:09 GMT
Dear Jayakar,
Many thanks for your comment. I agree with you. Therefore it is necessary to build earthlings, as taught by Rene Descartes, "clear and distinct" Global System for Existential Security to reduce the level of risk for Humanity.
Such a system is not yet in the World. Earthlings "butt" with each other, thought about flights to other planets, instead of more reliably control the Future on planet Earth for the benefit of new Generations, for the benefit of children and grandchildren.
With best wishes,
Vladimir
Joe Fisher wrote on Apr. 18, 2014 @ 16:33 GMT
Dear Mr. Ragozhin,
I was truly impressed by your essay. There was an effortless spontaneous clarity about the writing that made your essay seem so eminently readable. I do hope that it does well in the competition.
With my highest regards,
Joe Fisher
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Author Vladimir Rogozhin wrote on Apr. 18, 2014 @ 18:06 GMT
Dear Joe,
Many thanks for your kind comment. In the near future I will start to read your essay.
With best wishes,
Vladimir
Georgina Woodward wrote on Apr. 20, 2014 @ 10:16 GMT
Dear Vladimir,
an epic journey through the myth and evolution of man to the present day and beyond, poetically portrayed. I found your lists of risks and solutions an odd contrast. For me the least beautiful but most interesting part of your essay. That's because realization of what we are facing and what we can do about those risks will determine how we steer.
Good luck Georgina
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Author Vladimir Rogozhin replied on Apr. 20, 2014 @ 11:00 GMT
Dear Georgina,
Many thanks for your kind comments and suggestions. I'm waiting for your essay ...
I wish you good luck!
All the Best,
Vladimir
Ryoji Furui wrote on Apr. 20, 2014 @ 14:57 GMT
Dear Vladimir,
interesting essay! thoughtful listings for the better future at the end sections. fqxi indeed gathers people who have deep thoughts for the earth or human beings.
wish you good luck!
ryoji
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Author Vladimir Rogozhin replied on Apr. 20, 2014 @ 19:27 GMT
Dear Ryoji,
Thank you for your kind comment! Good luck to you and new ideas for reliable energy future spacecraft named "Earth".
I wish you good luck!
All the Best,
Vladimir
sridattadev kancharla wrote on Apr. 20, 2014 @ 15:22 GMT
Dear Professor Vladimir,
I thank you for supporting the idea of "exponential spiritual chain" and I enjoyed your description of how consciousness evolved over time in human beings.
We need to sustain the sphere of universal knowledge of love for humanity to survive for a while on this planet earth. Internet is a good medium for providing the means to all who are interested in to realize their full potential and hence I created a tool (website)
Any Body Can Discover - Everything For Good Hobby.
I hope to be of some contribution in the way we steer the humanity as the rest of us in this contest are trying to do with their wonderful ideas.
Love,
Sridattadev.
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Author Vladimir Rogozhin replied on Apr. 20, 2014 @ 19:20 GMT
Dear Sridattadev,
Thank you for your kind comment on my essay! Yes, indeed, the Internet and new information technologies will help make our world more sustainable. Together we must make the effort to reduce global risks more reliably steer the ship named "Earth" in a joyful Future.
Thank you for your joyful link!
I wish you good luck!
All the Best,
Vladimir
George Gantz wrote on Apr. 21, 2014 @ 19:05 GMT
Vladimir -
An extraordinary essay - I wish I could read it in Russian as I'm sure some of the concepts would be clearer and more precise! I was struck by many of the common threads between your essay and mine,
The Tip of the Spear, particularly on the evolutionary transition of humanity from paleolithical to anthropocene to the modern era, and on the nature of the institutions that now control (and potentially destroy) human progress.
I'm not sure I understood your meaning in using the word "protogeometer", and I would love to hear more. Is this referring to Husserl's interest in early human geometry and the abstraction of form before the formalizations of Euclid? Or is this a reference to pre-geometry, the topic raised by Wheeler and others in the context of models for quantum gravity? In which case. Or both?
Thanks. I look forward to your response. - George
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Author Vladimir Rogozhin wrote on Apr. 21, 2014 @ 20:40 GMT
Dear George,
Many thanks for your kind comment. I began to read your essay. As for the "protogeometer " Husserl, then I had a goal to dig up the "beginnings of geometry", to the first signs - prototektons, see the initial "buried meanings". And they are certainly far deep in millennia, long before the Egyptian and Greek geometers. My first guide to traveling with "protogeometer" was Pierre Teilhard de Chardin . Remember his words : «But in depth, a great revolution had taken place: consciousness was now leaping and boiling in a space ...». After " protogeometer " painted "path" and "wave" of consciousness (vector consciousness) , I delved into the problem of foundation of knowledge, especially the fundamental sign systems - mathematics and physics, and then the problem of the structure of space, the nature of time and information. Quantum idea had extended to the idea of "quantum of thought-action" ("qualitative quantum") to draw a model of "the Self-Aware Universe "(V.Nalimov). As well said Alexander Zenkin: «The truth should be drawn and should be presented to "an unlimited circle"of spectators.»( Alexander Zenkin
Science counterrevolution in mathematics)
My ideas are reflected in the essay FQXi 2012 and 2013.
I give the link to my blog
in Russian).
Best regards,
Vladimir
George Gantz replied on May. 27, 2014 @ 14:45 GMT
Vladimir - Thanks for the reply and for the comment on my essay! I do not follow all of your comments and references - probably because my exposure to the literature you are referring to is so limited. I do think that pre-geometric concepts will continue to offer fruitful pathways through some of the puzzles in current cosmology and physics. Keep up the good work!
Cheers - George
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Author Vladimir Rogozhin replied on May. 27, 2014 @ 19:19 GMT
Thank you. George, for your kind comments, important questions and your profound essay, which is very close to me on spirit and direction of research. Yes, I hope that "the language of geometrical representations" lead physicists to model "Self-Aware Universe" (V.Nalimov), the same for physicists and lyricists. Then steer the future will be much easier. Physicists in the world is much smaller than lyricists and need mutual understanding and a deep understanding of the Logos (The Law, The Principle) and the Eidos of the Universe-Cosmos.
I wish you good luck!
All the Best,
Vladimir
Giacomo Alessiani wrote on Apr. 22, 2014 @ 03:04 GMT
Hi Vladimir , I am reading some of the essays . Very interesting and original many of those . I want to say thank a lot, for the very positive comment received in the past contest . And I gave another look to Delta-logic. In the essay You describe the delta-logic in the sense of "increment" . If You change the position, as a change of shape, in place of increment . Then the idea is very similar to the shape dinamics , this mean close to Julian Barbour .
My Best Wishes for the contest . A presto.
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Author Vladimir Rogozhin replied on Apr. 22, 2014 @ 19:17 GMT
Hi Giacomo,
Many thanks for a deep analysis of my essays. I think that the idea of "Increment absolute forms" a loaded meanings, namely the generation of new forms of meanings, new structures in their diversity. The central idea here - is the idea generation, which gives access to the idea of "ontological (structural) memory" and further to the phenomena information and time.
Con grande rispetto,
Vladimir
murat Asgatovich gaisin wrote on Apr. 22, 2014 @ 03:32 GMT
Dear Vladimir Rogozhin,
Integration of large amounts of information, analysis, and most importantly the findings, is respect for the author.
Regards,
Murat Asgatovich Gaisin
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Author Vladimir Rogozhin replied on Apr. 22, 2014 @ 18:11 GMT
Dear Murat,
Thank you very much for your kind comment. I begin in the next few days to read your essay.
I wish you good luck!
All the Best,
Vladimir
Anselm Smidt wrote on Apr. 22, 2014 @ 17:00 GMT
Schwer zu lesen. Die Sorge um existenzielle Risiken gültig.
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Author Vladimir Rogozhin replied on Apr. 22, 2014 @ 18:58 GMT
Sehr geehrter Herr Anselm Smidt,
Vielen Dank für Ihre Kommentare. Mögliche Schwierigkeit des Textes durch Fehler der Übersetzung aus dem Russischen ins Englische. Wie für Programme zur globalen Risiken zu begegnen, bedarf es wirklich tief "Brainstorming" offenen Wissenschaft und Behörden.
Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
Vladimir
Hoang cao Hai wrote on Apr. 23, 2014 @ 02:46 GMT
Very happy to see you at here
The essay has demonstrated extensive knowledge of your society with a particular interest for the future
Best wishes with the highest score for the passion and enthusiasm of you
Hải.CaoHoàng
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Author Vladimir Rogozhin wrote on Apr. 23, 2014 @ 07:12 GMT
Dear Hai CaoHoàng,
Many thanks for your kind comment and appreciation of my essay. I will start in the near future reading your essay.
I wish you good luck!
All the Best,
Vladimir
Vladimir F. Tamari wrote on Apr. 24, 2014 @ 11:04 GMT
Dear Vladimir (its nice being able to say that without feeling I am in a solipsistic loop!)
At first reading I could not say I understood everything in your essay, but I was struck by a sense of serious intent, an urgent search for answers, and a sweeping poetic vision that thinks nothing of the practical and political problems of moving the UN to Iceland! May this search and others give little Victoria and all of humanity a new lease of life well beyond 2030!
Your Protogemetre kept reminding me of Blake's paintings of Newton and another of the Ancient of Days bending down drawing figures on the ground with a giant compass. Reminiscent of Archemides drawing figures on the ground just before being killed by soldiers. I hope humanity and its best plans find a better fate!
Are you saying analytical geometrical thought has boxed in and limited human thought and reality, and that we should find another more natural starting point? Neo scientific Zen Buddhism rather than Greek logic?
Best wishes
Vladimir
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Author Vladimir Rogozhin replied on Apr. 24, 2014 @ 19:39 GMT
Dear Vladimir,
Thank you for your deep and interesting comment. Search "the beginning of geometry" is important for solutions the problem of justifying knowledge, especially for basic sign systems - Physics and Mathematics, overcome the "crisis of representation and interpretation" (T.Romanovskaya)
This requires an integrative approach that includes all systems of knowledge, including traditional, rational and irrational. Knowledge needs a solid foundation, but it is not available.
The present crisis in basic science - a " crisis of understanding ." But to understand to mean "grab structure" (G.Gutner
Ontology mathematical discourse)
Journey to the beginning of knowledge helps you see, justify and draw the structure of the "beginning" in the "language of geometric representations." As well said Alexander Zenkin: «The truth should be drawn and should be presented to "an unlimited circle"of spectators.»( Alexander Zenkin
Science counterrevolution in mathematics)
Physical picture of the world should be the same rich sense as world picture
lyricists.
Unified picture of the world for physicists and lyricists - then management of the future of humanity more reliable, because there will be understanding.
Best wishes,
Vladimir
Author Vladimir Rogozhin replied on Apr. 24, 2014 @ 20:08 GMT
Vladimir, a look at the guitar (my favorite tool) - its image contains an absolute eidos Universe... "String theory" still demands the ontological justification ...
Gyenge Valeria wrote on Apr. 26, 2014 @ 10:41 GMT
Dear Vladimir!
At first let me apologize my longer comment, but because I keep important these thoughts putting here and relevant for the content we are speaking of, I hope, I do not overload you.
I found your essay one of masterpieces among lot of very good essays I could read until. You are giving very clear listing of the existential risks of the present state of...
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Dear Vladimir!
At first let me apologize my longer comment, but because I keep important these thoughts putting here and relevant for the content we are speaking of, I hope, I do not overload you.
I found your essay one of masterpieces among lot of very good essays I could read until. You are giving very clear listing of the existential risks of the present state of humanity (at least meant homo sapiens sapiens), and also minimum program instructions how-tos addressed to at least for two of non-governmental structures.
Your essay establishes well-formed review from a forward look (time)arrow how the consciousness should had developed from the senses and evolutionary stages of early human and how those steps became a crisis of our contemporary science and understanding.
However, I'm a bit missing from your essay mentioning our next or back step being - ' homo sapiens sapiens sapiens' - (some says smarter human, some should say divine being :) in our human evolution, and their impact upon us and the present situation.
That almost recurrently fascinated and make us curious, as far as I could construe about such questions in my essay:
'...Are there natural or what kind of type (e.g. supposed divine) beings existing before present us, who have more advanced knowledge suggesting they are years ahead after present us? Are they very natural being, probably humans from the future or from the past or just they are in very PRESENT? ....'
Putting such type of questions and answering them being understandable for a broader audience are far going yet even in our present, and there are much controversial speculations about the 'true human origin'. However much had been answered by ancient philosophers. "...Asinine! What rot to think! As though the earlier non existent could born or might disappear fully what ever was. Since the never existent never would become existent, furthermore if it can completely pass away what exists it is not in the reality it is not in the thought. It is impossible owing to it contradicts with the law..."(Empedokles). Heraclitus argued in a paradox that the world constantly changes, and put the existence into that simplified formula 'everything goes on its course'.
You may be reading about
homo divinus and some relevant information coming from
controversial sources, however being freely present for our open-minded considerations.
Let me put here some notes too concerning your notes (focusing on the importance of the 'structure' an the ontology of mathematics, but keeping in mind the simplest secure guidelines freewill, faith, hope, love) put on my essay page reconciling with your one:
I hope, I'm not in misunderstanding of your meaning '..Only language of geometrical representations could become the language in which it would be possible to construct such Eidos...' But, I argue a bit, the word in English 'Eidos' meant in anthropological manner, on the contrary this statement also should entail a conclusion to dismiss a living human body capable of thinking itself as a possible analogy to model a working of a healthy social system too.
I feel the cause of "...Process of certainty loss began in the middle of the 19th century simultaneously in mathematics and physics..." much rather arising from a 'creational crisis' which entail a quite important added point to your listing of existential risks. [b[That is OUR IDENTITY CRISIS which for a long time had set in our very bodily genetic and our both individual and social or group consciousness - we should call noosphere.
How ways can be this IDENTITY CRISIS put into a right direction by only OPEN FREE SOURCE SCIENCE AND BUSINESS movement without an adequate pressing on the governmental structure too, I'm not able to construe with an eligibility at the moment.
I should like pointing out to you here too, I disseminated a lot of thoughts-stuff considering them toward for me and the overall process we are trying to resolve for a long time. If you have a passion and time and keep thoughts interpreted by me interesting and relevant, so you can find the links of essays to where I put relevant comment posts at the end of this post.
No to distract yon from the thread I want to mention with relevancy here however, I need to emphasize a similar essay to yours and quote some parts of my note put on.
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The Tip of The Spear by George GantzI ought to think, the expression - humanity - need to be clarified first. Whether that is true or not, it seems to be a fact (as James Lee Hoover writes in his essay and Turil also brings forth a very diverse extra-ultra brains database conception) our species and population here on our present Earth are quite diverse, even may be intentionally genetically engineered either for a kind of betterment, or conveying lowered capacity being kept under a direction of some ones in charge. My very personal opinion is, all tremendous speculation about this huge topic is not an extra terrestrial matter of things at all. I had found someone's indication in his comment - we may be the creators of our own evolution even conceptualizing GOD or GODs. I can feel similar, therefore I conclude much rather we need to finely discern the operating of Natural evolutionary processes, and a probable consciously and intentionally engineered steerable evolutionary mechanism.
We also should not be unobservant in that of an actual group or social consciousness is mainly determined at institutional levels and may be conditioned by lead forces consisting individuals with service to self or service to others interest being unbalanced in them and even they may be also a kind of groups too. However, mainly they are who own yet presently those peculiar technologies (high energy or subtle energy manipulations with which possible to encroach into the natural matter and energy flowing and allows reality and consciousness manipulations)
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We need to realize first there may be ones intentionally making or engineering a 'process of uncertainty' on the grounding sciences which would give us an intellectual proof making our awareness clear - how our creative energy and informal forces working behind our thinking process. The contemporary theoretical physics and philosophy of mind and physics is much more and rather would be a possible framework much scientifically speaking and describing the former esoteric mentioning about the layers of energy bodies and chakra system, the spiritual energy and information flow in a genetically arranged physical body in the meantime and both incorporate even at a higher structure level -we call planetary systems - those processes can form a complex cosmical organism.
However, as
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...Who Should Be Their Guides into the Future? by David Brown writes and put some question also need to be answered
"...Arthur C. Clarke suggested that a sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic..."
"...Does artificial intelligence have far more connection with molecular biology than with mathematics and foundational issues in physics? .."
"...Do foundational issues in physics have profound connections with psychology and religion?..."
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You have pointed out in your essay too, the 'Vector of consciousness' and albeit, I can accept
the code may be in fundamental patterns and VECTOR EQUILIBRIUM and more about
structural cosmometry, and also the concept of the
isotropic vector matrix [cited: "...As Fuller states, because of this it is the zero-phase from which all other forms emerge (as well as all dynamic energy events.."] even it is controversial in itself [cited: '...According to Bucky Fuller, the VE is more appropriately referred to as a “system” than as a structure, due to it having square faces that are inherently unstable and therefore non-structural..."]
I deem, taking a fine discernment between the two notions 'system and structure.' A system may be composed of structure(s) however in broader mathematical sense not all structure can be automorf. Sometimes structures should become too rigid to keeping a system in working, and not necessarily can trasform into itself with an adequate manner. I mean, much about to deal with here the crystal symmetries and its transformations, how the artificially made crystals can substitute and elevate a system ...etc. That is a huge topics.
Albeit, as a present IT expert personally I did not deal either with Artificial Intelligence and probable
history simulations, I was intended writing my essay for ones who are seriously dealing with however such possible creational concepts.( Referring back to Empedokles as written above, if there were not such a possibilities ever in the thought it should not never had been in the thought.) However, I pointed out also in my essay the original creational technology being adequate for running a kind of simulations not necessary lays on a ground of a contemporary meant computer technology.
There are so much high topics involved here to put them into right order and context in our mind for our understanding and our present biosphere and noospehere is so constrained yet, there is truly a risk for loosing both our natural human and even any kind of artificially created characteristic which should drive us into a total devastation.
I keep my focus put on
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history simulationsHow to Hack Human History by John Brodix Merryman
... working with: The - thoughts - the utmost capability for the MAN!
Explanation: The thought is energy and information (on many structured levels, even our emotions, deep senses are as much thoughts we are able to consciously formulate into being been intellectually aware, we should say a man is composed of his thoughts and his way for living in healthy organism and organization keeping his thoughts both intellectually and emotionally balanced. ) which allows us to create, to materialize around us our ideas, desires, will etc., independently from the existence exists in any kind of form we can conceive about it. The thought both local and non-local and exist neither in time and space and as much as the existence exists. So that above comprehension is what makes us to be a higher order being.
We are on the way to work out an utmost 'philosophy' at which apex should be the science about - physics of thoughts -! Used for our mutual benefit and health not for being our own autocratic oppressor!
The problem is not the 'money'! But, - How to change our thoughts about to be anything in our possession! Nothing and no one is in our possession in the Nature! However everything is at our disposal to live, work with it and using it, even researching with it to further develop. However,our ability is that too, drawing limits to ourselves - what is worth to know and steer, truly.
So who is entitled to own and steer anyone's thoughts by any means - magic, technology even any kind of ideology? This is a deep conflict yet between the higher intellect and emotions and all about how the free-will may be achieved and maintained in a socially organized living systems - a.k.a. kept in a living history database of our many lives memory under scrutiny yet.
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My essay body content was not quite unfolding what its abstract suggested owing to the given 9 page was not sufficient for that huge topics. I focused much rather on the message given in the title. However, I truly think missing the crown of the physics of thought or at least its reconciliation with a re-considered philosophy being the utmost underlying ideological framework describing nature, society, and generally the most principal all-pervasive laws of the thinking process, with much simpler terms being - understandable - comprehesible for anyone. (For example as the notion philosppy exerts a [Latin-Greek: 'Philo' = (in composition) partake in, savant + 'Sophia' = wisdom of life] , but giving such enough geometry explanations which eligible for our understanding too living our life in the meantime as an average human.
I gladly contribute or participate in a kind of FREE OPEN project.
I look forward for hearing from you even to continue our conversation in the given e-mails, if you feel so.
Sincerely,
Valeria
---- My comment conversions threads put on essays
REALITY, ONCE by Joe Fisher How Should Humanity Steer the Future? An interview with Einstein in Heaven by Vladimir F. Tamari The Spiritual Big Bang: Origin of Universe by Damon Joseph Sproc How Can People Plan for the Technological Future and Who Should Be Their Guides into the Future? by David Brown How to Hack Human History by John Brodix Merryman The Tip of The Spear by George Gantz Planetary Procreation by Turil Sweden Cronburg
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Author Vladimir Rogozhin replied on Apr. 27, 2014 @ 09:26 GMT
Dear Valeria,
I thank you for very deep comment and questions.
I will try to answer them with my assistant GOOGLE.
Thanks for links concerning evolution of the genus Homo and its stages, but I generally analyzed and interpreted signs which were left by our ancestors for us. I didn't divide the genus Homo into subspecies. My "progeometer» - «homo universalis». In the concept I analyzed generally evolution of real signs which "progeometer" left for us on Earth in the course of world knowledge. The aim is the search for "buried primary meanings" and then - the essential foundation of fundamental symbolic systems - mathematics and physics, understanding the nature of information and time as polyvalent phenomena of the ontological (structural, space) memory. Eventually, I built a model of the Universe, which included the primordial limit senses of the "LifeWorld" (E.Gusserl). This was the main result of all my research, presented in three essay contests FQXi 2012-2014.
The concept of "eidos" (image) I represents the "spirit", "body", "consciousness." Therefore, the "language of geometrical representations" I understand how the language of images in a broad sense. This concept I took Basil Nalimov in his article "The universe is aware of itself."
Thanks for all your links, I start reading soon.
Sincerely,
Vladimir
Gyenge Valeria replied on Apr. 28, 2014 @ 09:11 GMT
Dear Vladimir!
Thanks you for reading my long comment, and further looking after.
Sorry if there may be misunderstanding due to I haven't any knowledge about "protogeometer'. I did some looking after, however it is some 'gap' in my apprehension, in this sense.
In a broader view, I can also understand the mathematics and physics would be the highest abstraction languages with which relation and transformations of the spirit=(inherent)consciousness and physical body(as a vehicles of consciousness) would be described, giving more refined interpretation how the memory works through a medium we call - mind.
However, I a bit disagree, putting the 'image of 'man' somehow equal with an abstract symbolic systems. This is 'rigid' interpretation only, which can put outside one his own thoughts, who actually wish to conceptualize and describe the fundamental meaning through very himself..
This is a long time problem with remarkable thinkers, they are inclined to think out of his actual bodies. Simply said, they forget they are in a complex physical body meanwhile they are doing any kind of abstraction to describe, apprehend the fundamentals! So, even they may be at a highest level of understanding of the basics, even they can lose his humanness closer to an everyday man, during this process. This is bigger danger, than do not understand quite exactly the fundamentals! I only tried, to point out to this in my essay too.
High regard,
Valeria
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Author Vladimir Rogozhin replied on Apr. 30, 2014 @ 10:15 GMT
Dear Valeria,
I totally agree with you. Protagoras said, "Man is the measure of all things." Through mathematics and physics I would like to understand more deeply the concept of "measure", and then "grab" the very first structure of the Universe. Abstraction is born in the mind of the first structure. Picture of the world of physicists and poets can be only one. Now, unfortunately, the picture of the world is fragmented and its grounds are illogical, so sad:
We do not see the world in detail,
Insignificant all and fractional.
Takes me sadness from all this.Alexander Vvedensky(1930)
And how to steer the Future fragmented World?
High regard,
Vladimir
Cristinel Stoica wrote on Apr. 28, 2014 @ 06:28 GMT
Hi Vladimir,
Very interesting essay. I like how you considered various risks, walked through great philosopher's ideas, and proposed practical ways to make them helpful for humanity.
Best regards,
Cristi
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Author Vladimir Rogozhin replied on Apr. 28, 2014 @ 10:18 GMT
Dear Cristi,
Many thanks for your kind comment. Yes, it is valid that the Humanity developed more steadily, reconsideration and activization of all world philosophical heritage is necessary. The Philosophy is a
«rigorous science» (E.Gusserl), and
joyful, the Science which accustoms to think more
"clearly and distinctly"(Descartes) to allocate the main thing in the...
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Dear Cristi,
Many thanks for your kind comment. Yes, it is valid that the Humanity developed more steadily, reconsideration and activization of all world philosophical heritage is necessary. The Philosophy is a
«rigorous science» (E.Gusserl), and
joyful, the Science which accustoms to think more
"clearly and distinctly"(Descartes) to allocate the main thing in the course of Knowledge. It is Science which forces "to dig" to the most remote meanings, to see that behind the horizon, to see the invisible. The Philosophy needs to be entered into system of school education already from the 5th class of school, at least, and ethics from the first class, can be even from kindergarten. The Humanity won't be able steadily to develop as "Humanity of consumers", but only as
"Humanity of creators". In this case Philosophy it is the first assistant.
Take a problem of foundation of the Knowledge, first of all Mathematics and Physics as fundamental sign systems. The Clay Mathematics Institute (CMI) at all didn't include a problem of foundation of Mathematics in
"The Millennium Problems". How mathematics will be able "to close physics", if Mathematics is science appreciably not proved as fundamental sign system? And Information Era is
"The era of people with mathematical mind" (Yuri Milner). To do this
need to change the entire system of teaching Mathematics. "Shut up and calculate" any more won't pass, it is necessary to pass to "Understand and quickly calculate"...
Thank FQXi that brings together people for "brainstorming" on very important topics of modern Humanity! All three contests FQXi 2012-2014 with very interesting subjects became for me incentive for the birth of new ideas. I think, in the same way and for other participants of contests FQXi.
I wish you good luck!
All the Best,
Vladimir
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Peter Jackson wrote on Apr. 29, 2014 @ 18:19 GMT
Vladimir,
Excellent job again. If only we could educate our children to think in that way we'd have some chance. I picked out my favourite two proposals of your comprehensive 'road map' for a way ahead;
1) Deep radical reforms of education systems directed on education of the creative, responsible and ethical human. The philosophy and Ethics have to be the main basic disciplines in education of existentially open personality
2)..creation of Global system of search and selection of new knowledge.
Though I do wonder if our penchant for bureaucracy and self interest may allow those to function without the full package. In a way the monopoly of academia on point 2 has already planted us into a theoretical rut which is increasingly difficult to escape from.
Great essay, right on topic. I hope to see it near the top of the pile.
Peter
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Dear Peter,
Many thanks for your kind comment. I think that there is a
hope for the reliable future for new open generation. The generation which grows without fear, but thinks of the future and of the future of the following generations, suspects decades forward. The Philosophy gives the chance to raise creative, altruistic open generations of inhabitants of the spaceship by name "Earth". Obviously, it is also necessary more purposefully to overcome "understanding crisis" to enter for students the special courses "Philosophy of Mathematics" and "Philosophy of Physics" at mathematical and physical faculties.
Many thanks of FQXi and to all patrons of contest, that brings together people for "brainstorming" on very important topics of modern Humanity. I think that such open world competitions directed on search of new ideas, it is necessary to carry out in all directions of Knowledge. The subject of this contest peculiar and comprehensive. She forces to think not only about science development, but raises comprehensive questions of the human being. The science is a part of culture and information era, information revolution presses for reorganizations of the system of science, its openness to society. Information technologies gradually, step by step open society, the power, the Person. Saving life and Humanity on Earth is the general task which for the first time in the history rose before modern generation and she demands from all the deepest concentration of mind and spirit. So -
in the way for a new generation going ahead ...
Vladimir
Ajay Bhatla wrote on Apr. 29, 2014 @ 22:28 GMT
Vladimir,
I enjoyed reading your essay.
Your linking "converting power of the mind" and "the meaning for a genuine humanity" are right on.
I also like your list of what a "minimum program must include" but this list does not include any focus on empowering individual people that are really not an integral part of an institution, government, global body or even a for-profit or non-profit? Any reason to ignore the resourcefulness and imagination of the many individuals that make a difference on their own initiative?
- Ajay Bhatla
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Dear Ajay,
Many thanks for your comment. Very valid and important questions. My idea of the «creation of Global system of search and selection of new knowledge» and «Open deep democracy" just assume «empowering individual people». It is extremely important for reliable management of the future.
Sincerely,
Vladimir
Stephen Tuck wrote on May. 6, 2014 @ 05:52 GMT
Dear Vladimir,
It was a very deep essay examining the human psyche. I think it is a little harder for me to follow analysis of human introspection because is isn't as discrete as the logic of mathematical equations, but I did give you a high rating. Personally I view the human body as a biochemical-vessel that interfaces to the human soul (which I believe is a form of subspace matter). I...
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Dear Vladimir,
It was a very deep essay examining the human psyche. I think it is a little harder for me to follow analysis of human introspection because is isn't as discrete as the logic of mathematical equations, but I did give you a high rating. Personally I view the human body as a biochemical-vessel that interfaces to the human soul (which I believe is a form of subspace matter). I think this is compatible with your views as well.
It is interesting that you bring up Neanderthals. A theory of mine is that I have the same neurobiology as Einstein, which stems from Neanderthal genetics. If you research it, you will find that the back of his head was misshapen (read the volume dedicated to him in Times Magazine). I believe he had a Occipital Protuberence (like me), which is a genetic, anatomical trait. I also believe that Asperger's Syndrome is the psychological diagnosis of Neanderthal Neurobiology. It seems that many Neanderthal gene-traits appear to be recessive. My own genetic background is not Jewish as my surname comes from Viking Royalty. However, I believe that an ancient root connects Jews and Vikings together as many sources believe that Vikings descended from the Tribe of Benjamin. I notice your writings seem infused with Christian beliefs. I don't see contradictions from true Science and the Holy Bible, I just think a correct interpretation of the inherent symbolism is necessary to see the truth. I kinda wonder about translations and whether the Nephilim are connected to Neanderthals because Evolutionary Theory and the Bible do not seem to peacefully co-exist. While the Nephalim are considered evil, I see that fallen-angels used-to-be angels and that mankind has great capacity for either good or evil depending upon our choice (since God gave us the capacity to decide for ourselves). I know I have read about Giants being a mistranslation of fallen or sub-species of humans (in one of the Naked Archeologist's documentaries). I do believe that such roots yield knowledge to mankind that are important in the understanding of intellectual ability. I think it has to do with memory and neuro-processing architecture. My oldest son takes after me with a high Logical-IQ whereas my younger son seems more Crow Magnon (since he takes after my wife's traits of higher Emotional-IQ). My older son put it best when he said J.D. learns better than I do but I think better than him. I believe that IQ is highly misunderstood by society. Anyways, it is something to think about. I wish you great luck!
Sincerely,
Stephen Tuck
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Author Vladimir Rogozhin replied on May. 6, 2014 @ 09:49 GMT
Dear Stephen,
I thank you for your deep detailed commentary and analysis of my essays.
Indeed, in order to more reliably steer the future of Humanity, it is necessary to analyze more deeply the past of Humanity, all the way of its formation. An example of this in-depth analysis is all the work of Pierre Teilhard de Chardin. The mystery of consciousness and all the tortuous path of its formation should disclose, together philosophers, paleoanthropologists, physicists, mathematicians, psychologists, sociologists, historians and theologians. Need the deep analysis and synthesis of knowledge gained about the past way of our ancestors. Need a new interpretation of that knowledge to the phenomenon of information and its "place" in the scientific world picture. Need deeper semantic interpretation of the "arrow of time", "entropy" (Greek - turn, turning), "bifurcation point", "state", " emergence". Especially important is the development of ideas Bergson presented in his book "Matter and Memory." In the synthesis of all knowledge about a Person's past is important not to fall into physicalism and psychology. Here mathematics with its high levels of abstraction is a great helper. Especially important to understand the deeper phenomena "egoism" - "altruism", "openness" - "closed". The information revolution requires deeper knowledge and the emergence of democracy in human society, all of its underlying forms and directions of development. Obviously, a comprehensive work of scientists "Humanity and Democracy", published in the official languages of the United Nations and a large circulation in the public domain on the Internet. Thank God, today the Internet and new information technologies provide new opportunities for Humanity more reliable steer spaceship named "Earth".
Thank you very much for the links.
I wish you good luck!
All the Best,
Vladimir
Anonymous wrote on May. 6, 2014 @ 16:56 GMT
Dear Vladimir R,
Maybe, you will at least enjoy the reference to Coxeter in my essay. On the other hand, I admit having problems with your somewhat poetic style and thinking. Moreover, your text breathes Russian grammar even in English. So it is demanding to an old German like me who must switch between both foreign to me languages.
Nonetheless, I see us allies and quite different from those who omit either foundational questions or practical politics in their attempt to answer the question put in the contest.
May I hope for some comments or for answers to the question or comments I put e.g. to Kadin, St Pierre, Klingman, Shirazi, Gibbs, Khali, Singh, gaisin, Schlafly, Hossenfelder, Aßelmeyer, and Ashworth?
Regards,
Eckard
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Author Vladimir Rogozhin replied on May. 6, 2014 @ 20:24 GMT
Dear Eckard,
Many thanks for your comment. I apologize for English translation of my essay. Unfortunately, I learned at institute only the French and Arab languages, and at school German. Certainly, I already strongly forgot it. It would be good if competitions were held in all official languages of the UN or in Esperanto. I started the translation and reading your essay, and also I will try to answer all your questions.
Regards,
Vladimir
Author Vladimir Rogozhin replied on May. 7, 2014 @ 08:47 GMT
Judi,
Many thanks for reading my difficult essay and your kind comment. If it is possible, write, please, some offers from my essay which aren't clear or have gross grammatical blunders. My address ideabank@yandex .ru
As for the question "control population levels in the future", I don't consider that it is a big problem. The developed countries could stabilize birth rate level through development and education. Such way it is necessary to move purposefully safely to the future. Especially important is the modern system of education and training in schools , which should prepare the creators rather than "experts ." More serious risks for Humanity are wars on self-destruction, asteroid danger, supervolcanoes, science without control from society ("closed science").
I started the translation and reading your essay, and also I will try to answer all your questions.
Vladimir
Judy Nabb wrote on May. 7, 2014 @ 00:38 GMT
Vladimir,
I found your essay inspiring and pertinent, but very hard to read. I wonder if you have a view on if and how we should control population levels in the future, and evolve better use of our brains.
Judy
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Author Vladimir Rogozhin replied on May. 7, 2014 @ 08:48 GMT
Judi,
Many thanks for reading my difficult essay and your kind comment. If it is possible, write, please, some offers from my essay which aren't clear or have gross grammatical blunders. My address ideabank@yandex .ru
As for the question "control population levels in the future", I don't consider that it is a big problem. The developed countries could stabilize birth rate level through development and education. Such way it is necessary to move purposefully safely to the future. Especially important is the modern system of education and training in schools , which should prepare the creators rather than "experts ." More serious risks for Humanity are wars on self-destruction, asteroid danger, supervolcanoes, science without control from society ("closed science").
I started the translation and reading your essay, and also I will try to answer all your questions.
Vladimir
Gbenga Michael Ogungbuyi wrote on May. 7, 2014 @ 10:33 GMT
Dear Vladimir,
As an experienced FQXI member your essay as provided a new thought of idea on the topic being discussed. It held my interest through out and wish you a great accomplishment in this competition.
I also employ you to read my article and give it a rating on this direct link http://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/2020 STRIKING A BALANCE BETWEEN TECHNOLOGY AND ECOSYSTEM. I also make a reference to the United Nations. I anticipate you.
Best wishes
Gbenga
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Author Vladimir Rogozhin replied on May. 7, 2014 @ 12:07 GMT
Dear Gbenga,
I thank you for your kind comment and appreciation of my essay and my ideas. Today I start to read your essay.
Best Regards,
Vladimir
KoGuan Leo wrote on May. 9, 2014 @ 09:19 GMT
Protogeometer Vladimir,
We need all concerned citizens of Gaia to save her and ourselves! Thanks for your kind comment on my essay. I rated your essay a ful ten (10) as it deserved.
Best wishes,
Leo KoGuan
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Author Vladimir Rogozhin replied on May. 9, 2014 @ 10:48 GMT
Dear Leo,
Many thanks for your kind comment and appreciation of my essay!
Best wishes,
Vladimir
Author Vladimir Rogozhin wrote on May. 9, 2014 @ 11:16 GMT
FQXi Essay Contest in 2014 with the theme «How Should Humanity Steer the Future?» Is extremely important . 100 years have passed since the beginning of
The First World War. The death toll -11,440,310 person.
75 years have passed since the beginning of
The Second World War. The death toll 46,733,062 person.
During the
Cold War period 1946-1991 was 108 local...
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FQXi Essay Contest in 2014 with the theme «How Should Humanity Steer the Future?» Is extremely important . 100 years have passed since the beginning of
The First World War. The death toll -
11,440,310 person.
75 years have passed since the beginning of
The Second World War. The death toll
46,733,062 person.
During the
Cold War period 1946-1991 was 108 local wars and military conflicts. Over the last 23 years - 23 war and conflict . Here is a message to start a new
Cold War.
What to do? How to save the World and Humanity?
War always started politics, not people. Therefore, one way out: the transition from "Democracy 2.0" to a deeper democracy of the Information Era - "Democracy 3.0".
Necessary creation of a new scientific picture of the World of the Information Era in the spirit of the great philosophers of the 20th century,
Pierre Teilhard de Chardin and Edmund Husserl, which will include the deep meanings of the "LifeWorld " and Man:
«The true physics is that which will, one day, achieve the inclusion of man in his wholeness in a coherent picture of the world." Central category, semantic attractor new scientific picture of the World -
Ontological (Cosmic) Memory. Humanity must go to Aeonics thinking: «Aion is a child playing, playing checkers; power over the world belongs to the child »( Heraclitus ). That the Earth is not paused, Homo sapiens sapiens has no right to transform into Homo ludens ludens. WarGames man in a new Era - a very dangerous games. We need to hear the voice of the Earth, voice of the People
to give up
Hope to New Generation of Earthlings. Let's keep the Peace, save the World and the Earth together!
Time to start the new path.
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Walter Putnam wrote on May. 10, 2014 @ 17:31 GMT
Dear Vladimir,
Thank you for writing this essay and submitting it. It was pleasing to read your description of the evolving Cosmic Consciousness along with the biological humankind. In my mind, these developments are inseparable. You cover some very deep topics. I agree with George Gantz in that wish I could read it in Russian. Best of luck to you in the contest.
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Author Vladimir Rogozhin replied on May. 10, 2014 @ 18:36 GMT
Dear Walter,
Many thanks for your kind comment. Yes, truly the way of the genus Homo is necessary to understand deeply in the spirit Pierre Teilhard de Chardin. There must be deep integration of humanities and sciences of nature: «The true physics is that which will, one day, achieve the inclusion of man in his wholeness in a coherent picture of the world."
I give links to the full text of the essay in
Russian and
English.
Besr regards,
Vladimir
Denis Frith wrote on May. 12, 2014 @ 23:44 GMT
Dear Vladimir
I have resounded to your useful comments on my essay. I have now read your essay and many of the associated comments. It provides insight into recognition of the limitations of science and mathematics by profound thinkers. Many on this forum have gained further understanding from your essay of nature of the human decision making process.
I am a realist so I focus on what has happened. Humans have used the tools they devised to use some of Gaia's natural resources to construct and operate a gigantic inanimate organism (Tityas) consisting of cities, roads, ports etc. This ravishing cannot continue. Physical principles (not widely recognized by even scientists) ensure that the operation of Tityas is unsustainable.
Humanity needs to steer Tityas as much as that may be feasible. That requires a degree of consensus in the vast population. A few learned people pointing the direction will not suffice. A Earth's Lodgers' Activity Management (ELAM) movement needs to be promoted as a means of building up the momentum of society's steering the future.
I thank you for your comments and rating of my essay and for the insight I have gained from reading your essay and the associated illuminating comments.
Denis
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Vladimir Rogozhin replied on May. 13, 2014 @ 09:16 GMT
Dear Denis,
Thank you for your comment and appreciation of my ideas. Indeed, science and society matures super generalizing paradigm, "The Great Paradigm" - the World as a whole. Today it is necessary for the further development of science and for a more sustainable society, conservation of Nature. You used a very good image - Tityas. Your movement is very important for a more sustainable future of humanity. I continue to read the materials of ELAM. Good luck to you!
Sincerely,
Vladimir
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Andrej Rehak wrote on May. 13, 2014 @ 11:28 GMT
Dear Vladimir
I loved reading your clever article. However, I crucially disagree with your institutionalized solution. Although build on the idea of the individual, institutions inevitably transform in the negation of individuality. In order to maintain themselves, they grow into increasingly heavy tail of retardation, constructed on ever more obsolete arguments, or none arguments at all....
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Dear Vladimir
I loved reading your clever article. However, I crucially disagree with your institutionalized solution. Although build on the idea of the individual, institutions inevitably transform in the negation of individuality. In order to maintain themselves, they grow into increasingly heavy tail of retardation, constructed on ever more obsolete arguments, or none arguments at all. Waving with flags and phrases like "In the name of Humanity, in the name of democracy, in the name of God, in the name of our children, In the name of the new world order..." they condition living individuals to fall ever deeper in the whole of unnatural uniformity, non-living sensibility, hypnotic mass stupidity and ever growing polarization. Institutionalized science, founded by non-living institutions called "states", "religions" or "corporations"... turned out to be a practical tool to bold the above hypnotic phrases with a hypnotic phrase like "according to scientists"...
Without the official seal of the official science, state, corporation, religion... regardless of their truth and simplicity, ideas and descriptions of the world, which don't fit or threaten the existence of such institutions are marginalised, neglected, rejected or burned. As we witness, in all aspects of our institutionalized society, the problems are maintained and created. This knotted matrix of problems iterates itself... maintaining and creating the age of problems. Like Jupiter moons observed by Galileo, simple and intuitive truth is the greatest threat to complicated and unintuitive lie.
The knowledge of the truth is the information, not learned by heart, but understood by heart. The path of that knowledge is certainly not the unconscious repeating of some local, contradicting, man-made scientific or religious paradigm. The tool of the universal truth is sharp, precise, irrefutable and universal. And as you pointed out, the simple truth is drown in geometry.
Regards,
andrej
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Author Vladimir Rogozhin replied on May. 13, 2014 @ 13:22 GMT
Dear Andrej,
Thank you for your insightful comments and clear position. I fully agree with you: «The tool of the universal truth is sharp, precise, irrefutable and universal».
In my essay, I was just trying to understand and draw a path of Humanity in terms of "consciousness" and its evolution. That is the way I treated the genus Homo in the spirit of Pierre Teilhard de Chardin. I understand the dangers of a "closed society", "closed power", "closed science" and any enclosed structures for individuality and freedom in the Information age. I hope that the new Generation will be able to overcome the "closeness" of power and science as a systemic problem for Humanity and its future. As for the "Geometry", I saw them in terms of addressing the foundation of Mathematics, which I think is the main problem for the basic science of the XXI century. A broad competition of ideas in science and society. Already clear that the time has come " Democracy 3.0 ".
Sincerely,
Vladimir
Member Travis Ty Norsen wrote on May. 13, 2014 @ 17:51 GMT
Hi Vladimir,
Thanks for your very positive comments on my own essay,
"Back to the Future", which led me to read your contribution to the contest. Unfortunately, I have to admit that I had difficulty understanding your main points. If you could summarize, here, just in one or two sentences, your answer to "How should humanity steer the future?" it would help me and perhaps others. Thanks!
Travis
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Author Vladimir Rogozhin replied on May. 13, 2014 @ 20:12 GMT
Dear Travis,
Many thanks for your comment. My essay consists of two parts. First - in the spirit of the philosophy of consciousness of Pierre Teilhard de Chardin. I clarifies the
«path of consciousness», the main extreme points of its formation and explain why Protogeometer together with all Humanity continues to "falling into future." I also put the problem of having the...
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Dear Travis,
Many thanks for your comment. My essay consists of two parts. First - in the spirit of the philosophy of consciousness of Pierre Teilhard de Chardin. I clarifies the
«path of consciousness», the main extreme points of its formation and explain why Protogeometer together with all Humanity continues to "falling into future." I also put the problem of having the foundation of mathematics as a fundamental system of signs, "Language of Nature" (including essays 2012-2013). I also emphasized the importance to Humanity unified picture of the world, filled with the sense of the "LifeWorld" (E.Husserl).
In the second part of the essay, I have outlined the main existential risks of Humanity on the way to the future and gave detailed minimum program to reduce global existential risks:
«There are two streams of actions directions: The United Nations and the Joint Civil Communities represented by public non-governmental structures.
The Minimum program must include:
- Open World programs of research and continuous monitoring of global existential risks;
- Open World programs of creation of effective Global system of overcoming of risks created by Homo sapiens sapiens. First of all it includes the risks created on the basis of an economic paradigm of spontaneous existential chaos, Homo sapiens opposition to Nature, «terrestrial Nomos» - to "heavenly Logos". Creation of new global economy and new ethics of Information era - existentially Open Eco-Economy and Eco-Ethics;
- Open World programs of effective overcoming of natural risks;
- Deep radical reforms of education systems directed on education of the creative, responsible and ethical human. The philosophy and Ethics have to be the main basic disciplines in education of existentially open personality;
- Creation of global and national social networks in accordance with new existential principles (Existential Social Networks 4.0);
- Development of systems of direct and open democracy at all levels of human life taking into account ancient and modern experience (Open Deep Democracy);
- Creation of necessary structures (UN, country, civil society)
The current state of Humanity demands deep UN reboot taking into account memory of destiny of League of Nations, tragic results of world wars and current state of the world - The UN 3.0 ‖ , namely:
- Creation of Committee on Global existential risks or World Council for Global existential risks;
- Creation of the Open Fund on research of existential risks of Humanity;
- UN activation in the direction of the world disarmament, assistance to open science, national cultures, international cooperation and people's diplomacy development;
- Creation of new Global System of Existential Safety on the basis of new open principles;
- Creation of single Global system of Space exploration;
- Creation of Global system of search and selection of new knowledge;
- Recognized and deliberate relocation of UN headquarters to «the country of ices» - Iceland, to Reykjavík or Keflavik where the Nature itself speaks to Humanity the necessity of active actions on nature preservation. Iceland - the country of «breathing Earth» is a nice place for deep reflections and new ideas, one of the most peaceful countries in the world where people suffered the consequences of the recent world economic crisis most deeply and the country which have successfully applied the principles of direct democracy;
- Transfer of a complex of buildings of the UN in «The City of the Covenant» - the place of concentration of the world cultures which has endured existential shock at 11.09.01 - to the operating and new global non-governmental organizations aspiring to create the steady, democratic world, to save Man and Nature, to hold World public forums on existential risks of Humanity, human rights and the rights of the people, to support Open World scientific, philosophical, ecological, social and economic forums;
- Creation of the World Center of people's diplomacy («Union of People» World Center), intended for development and promotion of Kant's idea of «union of people»; [19 ]
- Holding the World forums of Mother-Earth people
- Creation on new existential principles of the European safety system, development and promotion of idea of «Big Europe» as «union of people» from the Azores in the West to the Diomede Islands in the East, with the main candidate for the capital status - Tartu city, the ancient place where people and cultures of Western and Eastern Europe meets in one point, the second candidate is Knigs-Grad;
- Promotion of idea of Open Science as deep driving force on overcoming of existential risks, global and regional crises in development of Humanity."
Together with the conclusions of my essays FQXi 2012-2013 's this minimum program for the "Generations SkyPe» very specific. It also includes the problem of radical changes in the education system, especially in the basic sciences on the education of youth in the Information revolution.
Possible translation of essays on English is not a professional, so I gave a link to the full text of the essay in
Russian. If you have any comments on the translation, send me please.
Best Regards,
Vladimir
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Petio Hristov wrote on May. 15, 2014 @ 11:29 GMT
Dear Vladimir I. Rogozhin
I am impressed by your essay. In the search of the basis of knowledge, the structure of space, time, the absolute forms and their meaning, the path to the future are presented in an extraordinary way.
I share your opinion that our forefathers have deliberately left us “sings” for us, which can lead us to the right conclusion of LifeWorld in the Universe model.
As you have said: “Anything on the Earth does not pass completely …” – because it repeats itself, but that repetition is always different. The question is what are the principles?
Best regards
Petio Hristov
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Dear Petio,
Many thanks for your kind comment. Yes, that's right , every new emergent level of being creates new forms, new quality, new eidoses. You asked a great question: «iwhat are the principles?»
The basis of my conception of a reliable steering Future of Humanity principles that tells us the Nature, the Cosmos, the whole history of the formation of Mankind, and give answers...
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Dear Petio,
Many thanks for your kind comment. Yes, that's right , every new emergent level of being creates new forms, new quality, new eidoses. You asked a great question: «iwhat are the principles?»
The basis of my conception of a reliable steering Future of Humanity principles that tells us the Nature, the Cosmos, the whole history of the formation of Mankind, and give answers to the famous question of Kant:
What can I know?
What ought I to do?
What may I hope?1. At the base of knowledge of the principles and Super Axiom . Super Principle - the principle of triunity, the principle of symmetry, the principle of hierarchy, the principle of harmony. Super axiom: "In the Beginning was the Logos ... ", which sets the ontological limit , "frame" and " frame" knowledge - Absolute generating structure ("Gnerall framework structure").
Ontological (structural, cosmic) memory is the core, semantic attractor of the new conceptual structure of the Universe. 2 . "... «Act only according to that maxim whereby you can at the same time will that it should become a universal law without contradiction». «Act in such a way that you treat humanity, whether in your own person or in that of another, always at the same time as an end and never merely as a means.» (I.Kant). Human being is the highest value.
3 . Hope - "my compass earth": the preservation of humanity taking into account all existential risks, sustainable development for the benefit of future generations on the basis of "maxims" of Kant, based on
Freedom, Compassion,
Faith,
Hope,
Love,
Justice. New Generation sings with the hope a new world of the Information Age. Education of new Generations of Earthlings - one of the main great deals for the future of the Humanity. Need to educate the younger Generation so that every graduate school wanted to sing such a
song to his teacher.(
Song from music and poetry evenings "Do not you dare forget the teachers," dedicated to the Day of the Teacher and the movie "We'll Live Till Monday")Best regards,
Vladimir
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Anonymous wrote on May. 19, 2014 @ 19:36 GMT
Dear Vladimir,
one thing that came into my mind by reading your essay and especially by reading the comments above is the following.
Most people today are not interested in philosophy, based on my experience at least in the european countries. What is taught in schools is primarily oriented to give practial benefits for the later working life of a teenager. In a certain sense they...
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Dear Vladimir,
one thing that came into my mind by reading your essay and especially by reading the comments above is the following.
Most people today are not interested in philosophy, based on my experience at least in the european countries. What is taught in schools is primarily oriented to give practial benefits for the later working life of a teenager. In a certain sense they are drilled to be productive in their future. An exception from the rule is surely the school subject "religion". But this subject is usually overloaded with connotations like sin, guilt, eternal decisions and the theodicy problem.
The theodicy problem is surely also a philosophical problem, but beaten down in the framework of the school subject "religion", it gets too abstract to be really evaluated by teenagers.
So my thought is that people schould be trained already in school to also think in philosophical terms, because many questions and problems of humanity are of philosophical/ethical nature. There are way to less considerations to make people not only fit for producing profits in their later working life, but also to give them the mental ability to reflect their thoughts and actions by a wider scale of outlooks than they do today. As Sabine Hossenfelder emphasizes, most people make their decisions on grounds of locally and self-centered reasons. I think therefore education - what is demanded by many essay authors - should necessarily imply the disciple of philosophy.
I like your essay and the impetus that generated it. You are in search for a better and more fair world and you contribute with your essay for this goal. I am not sure if your proposals to conform the various institutions to organize themselves into more global risk evaluation/prevention can be successfull in the next decades, because all that must be achieved in the first place via money - and the change of thoughts. Noboday wants to spend his/her time for free and there would be needed thousands of highly educated stuff to bring those institutions in line with what would be necessary. This would also be a political issue as well...
The first step would be (IMHO) to adress the most urgent issues that endanger humanity to the science community and the network of their most prominent representatives. As long as the public isn't informed as well as we are here at fqxi, there will be no mentionable changes. Second, the science community has to act as the bad conscience for the politicians - worldwide. So the politics would be more driven to act in the direction to serve humanity as a whole and not only national interests. Why are most politicians NOT trained in philosophy - because no real philosopher would decide for him/herself to take part in some dirty work. Philosophs do what they are convinced to do, must do, namely serving humanity (is this "must" a lack of freedom...? - i wouldn't say so). If we had more people of this species, a lot (but surely not all) would have been achieved!
Good, deep and serious essay, Vladimir! And i liked much the mentioning of your daughter Victoria and am convinced that you like children in general because they do still know what's good and bad and are honest. Its only the systemic circumstances that can change a human's heart to a dark realm. We should learn again to forgive each other and to discover the own child within us. Then we would be able to see behind another one's curtain and treat him/her more emphatically and truly.
Best wishes,
Stefan
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Author Vladimir Rogozhin replied on May. 20, 2014 @ 12:34 GMT
Dear Stefan,
Many thanks for your kind, deep and very important comment for me. Many people more and more realize need of a unity for the solution of all problems which rose before Humanity in the XXI century, first of all understanding of all existential risks. Now in the world more and more people who realize all existential risks of Humanity and unite for joint action. Especially pleases that than such deeply conceiving people becomes more increasing among businessmen. Today the global coordinating center for existential risks which will coordinate all public organizations is already necessary. I am very glad that you support idea of introduction of Philosophy and Ethics in school education.
Yes, Stefan, you are absolutely right: "We should learn again to forgive each other and to discover the own child within us. Then we would be able to see behind another one's curtain and treat him/her more emphatically and truly. "
Magnificent words!
I wish you good luck!
All the Best,
Vladimir
Don J Chisholm wrote on May. 25, 2014 @ 12:59 GMT
Dear Vladimir
I had missed your essay while reading most others, but thank you for bringing it to my attention. The philosophical long term overview of how humanity emerged into today is quite interesting, and is an important introduction to final recommendations of a science-based governance model, which is quite similar to my proposal in Our Journey to the next Paradigm. Perhaps our common engineering background leads to this sort of recommendation.
Best wishes for your success in this contest.
Don Chisholm
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Author Vladimir Rogozhin replied on May. 25, 2014 @ 15:08 GMT
Dear Don,
Many thanks for your kind comment and appreciation of my ideas! Yes, indeed, we are close in spirit to our researches. I hope engineers can help physicists and lyricists in a safe steering the future.
Best wishes for your success in this contest!
Sincerely,
Vladimir
Orenda Urbano Hernández wrote on May. 26, 2014 @ 04:44 GMT
Dear Vladimir,
Delightful harmonious notes prelude of a new state of matter: self-consciousness of Noosfera. The vector of untangible world of consciousness is restructuring the current reality into designed reality. Fascinating and elegant path of words to explain the inevitable Noosfera’s inmanent nature: innovation, evolution and self-transformation. Unveiling the field of...
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Dear Vladimir,
Delightful harmonious notes prelude of a new state of matter: self-consciousness of Noosfera. The vector of untangible world of consciousness is restructuring the current reality into designed reality. Fascinating and elegant path of words to explain the inevitable Noosfera’s inmanent nature: innovation, evolution and self-transformation. Unveiling the field of information and time that has been the path of the biophoton. Listening the silent field of awareness that like a wave remains its energy in the atoms of your brain. The architecture of your thinking follows the light of possibility and transcendence mixed with the eternal human search for a meaning of existence.
Inspired by the most powerful promise of transcendence, your daughter, you grasp the field of reality to find real answer, the most noble reason to create.
Totally agree with your fundaments of “LifeWorld” (“LebensWelt”), in fact the blind trust of human kind in science is a pitiful symptom of the lackness of wisdom and the not extended understanding that science is the human capability to comprehend the nature of cosmos. Science is a continuous exercise that has entertained human kind in its path in universe. The only way to increase knowledge is by expanding consciousness of the field. Systematization is a tool for complexity. As you state: Humanity yet didn´t realize all depth of global existential risks. Science is a tool for Humanity and not a ruler. The comprehension of the nature of humanity needs to be expanded, it is at this point of non-return to comprehend the power of human kind to understand its responsabilities and create flexible-adaptable-intelligent new systems of interaction with cosmos.
As Protogeometry clearly develops the cybernetics of passing from exsitencial point “Alpha” to “point of Omega” to create the possible field of Absolute spirit: waves of rises and fallings of the genus Homo. This part of your work reminds me the book: “La vida, el tiempo y la muerte” of Fanny Blanck-Cerejido and Marcelino Cerejido where they explain the nature of cosmos and in which I based Black Sky Thinking:
“Cada nivel jerárquico fue Nuevo alguna vez y surgió como el producto de la interacción entre los niveles que ya estaban y el medio ambiente, que incluye también a otros individuos y a otras especies. Los nuevos niveles tienen menor grado de restricción que los inferiores y tienen por lo tanto mayor ámbito para el error y la creatividad. En la etapa actual, el superior y más reciente parece ser el mental. El pensamiento está enhebrado por la noción del tiempo; por ello deberemos incluir una descripción de los modelos más en boga, aquellos con los que el psicoanálisis trata de entender la estructura y el modo de operar del aparato psíquico.”
The Cerejido couple are describing neuroendocrine processes but at the same time they are describing the operating systems of universe. It would be interesting to provide exactitude to this systems by measuring in terms of time (our Brain is hardwired to time concepts) the mathematical period of duration of each system. This could lead to accuracy into the use of fields of interaction in cosmos and the duration of innovative and creative processes and the duration of structuralizing fields. There might be flexible and self-adaptative systems of interaction between Human Kind and the environment.
Protogeometer and Black Sky Thinking propose of leading the bio-architecture to follow the “Omega Point”.
Respectfully I may differ that the first tool and the first weapon were the manual cut or so-called chopping –tools, the first tool and weapon was a bio-tool and bioweapon: the thumb. It seems the Noosfera field is “floating” in the universe like a dimension of possibility, biology slowly connects with this fields and creates architecture to follow its complicated rules, meanwhile bio-architecture follows mathematics, physics, chemistry, geometry, etc… the Noosfera field is encrypted in higher language that biology deals with its complexity. I agree with Protogeometer that the eidos of the thumb was the initial constituting act, the first sign and the first knowledge. From Black Sky Thinking view the first “mathematical act” and it continuous to be: the family. When we need to think in another human being, in its well-being there is transcendence. Wherever the human consciousness is focused in transcendence the tools to make it real will come to them. We are a group of atoms interacting under the rule of different systems, this systems grow in complexity when they may become adaptive to other group of systems (another human being).
I would love to continue this dialogue with your fabulous dialogue with the fields of existence and the philosophy of geometry but I can not abuse of the gentilesse of your attention and the virtual space of FxQi. It is fascinating to grasp into your mind architecture and your consciousness structure. Wish you good luck but most of all wish you to materialize this wonderful work in the well-being of Human Kind.
Kindly,
Orenda Urbano Hernández
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Author Vladimir Rogozhin replied on May. 26, 2014 @ 13:30 GMT
Dear Orenda,
Thank you very much for your insightful comment very important to me, for your appreciation of my ideas. Many thanks for a very important and interesting link from the book "La vida, el tiempo y la muerte" of Fanny Blanck-Cerejido and Marcelino Cerejido. I completely agree with authors of the book.
I agree with deep idea in these words: «From Black Sky Thinking view the first “mathematical act” and it continuous to be: the family. When we need to think in another human being, in its well-being there is transcendence. Wherever the human consciousness is focused in transcendence the tools to make it real will come to them. We are a group of atoms interacting under the rule of different systems, this systems grow in complexity when they may become adaptive to other group of systems (another human being).»
Therefore, I believe, broader introduction in fundamental science of idea of N. Bourbaki about "structure mère" ("generating") and as development of this idea on all reality - "absolute generating structure" ("general framework structure") is extremely important. Creation of unique model of the Universum filled with limit meanings of the "LifeWorld" is a problem of the open fundamental science for more reliable steering the Future.
I also hope for continuation of very interesting dialogue after the contest FQXi.
I and my daughter Victoria we thank you for deep and encouraging words!
Best Regards,
Vladimir
Anonymous replied on May. 29, 2014 @ 04:46 GMT
Dear Vladimir,
The words that encrypted contain your energy to create a spin to transform human kind to a brighter future that here we call essay it became a must of continuous reading for me. You share many interesting ideas, authors and concepts that are important to continue creating clear, concise and evolutionary innovative way of thinking and acting. Beyond that, your essay generates many thoughts, questions and new dimensions on my thinking, definitely I will continue reading it. I am glad to accept your kind invitation to continue our dialogue after the contest of FqXi, do you have an account in LinkedIn? (www.linkedin.com ).
It is inspirational to read that you enjoyed the work of Cerejido’s work too. Now I have more sources to expand my questioning in the authors you share.
I will keep in mind this powerful thinking that you shared:
“. Wherever the human consciousness is focused in transcendence the tools to make it real will come to them. We are a group of atoms interacting under the rule of different systems, this systems grow in complexity when they may become adaptive to other group of systems (another human being)”.
I am glad to read that you and Victoria welcome my words with enthusiasm and that you realize that your eagerness of making a responsible, intelligent and humanistic cybernetics of cosmos is welcome.
I think you will also enjoy the work of Mr. Andres Agostini http://lifeboat.com/blog/2014/04/white-swan it is also a great source of mind architecture innovation and inspiration.
Wish to continue learning from your thinking.
Best regards,
Orenda Urbano Hernández
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Author Vladimir Rogozhin replied on May. 29, 2014 @ 10:17 GMT
Dear Orenda,
Many thanks for your kind comment. My Account to
Linkedin. Many thanks for the link. I look forward to our future cooperation and interesting conversations. We need a new "Great Common Cause" to save Peace, Nature and Humanity. Great Dream always go alond with
Freedom without fear,
Hope,
Love,
Justice.
It's time.
We start the path. The New Era and a New Generation demanded action.
I wish you good luck!
All the Best,
Vladimir
Mohammed M. Khalil wrote on May. 26, 2014 @ 16:21 GMT
Dear Vladimir,
Great essay! I especially like the section "Existential risks of Humanity and the Open Science"; I totally agree with you about the risks of modern humanity, and I find your ideas for Open Science applicable very important and applicable.
Best regards,
Mohammed
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Author Vladimir Rogozhin wrote on May. 26, 2014 @ 19:26 GMT
Dear Mohammed,
Many thanks for your kind comment and appreciation of my ideas. A very important subject of the Contest provides an opportunity to bring together people and ideas concerned about the current state of Humanity and its future. At this Contest a lot of great ideas, including your ideas, which will help to choose a safer course of the movement of Humanity in the future.
I wish you good luck!
All the Best,
Vladimir
Christian Corda wrote on May. 28, 2014 @ 07:50 GMT
Dear Vladimir,
It is a nice pleasure to re-meet you her in FQXi. I have just read your interesting and peculiar Essay. Here are my comments/questions:
1) It is quite interesting that you started your quest of answers to the questions about Humanity past and future by incidentally reading an American magazine. This looks a sort of destiny.
2) The book by Ilya Prigozhin that you cite is fantastic. It shows how two great themes of classic science like order and chaos, which look to do not be conciliated, can be instead reconciled through a new intriguing synthesis.
3) Einstein finalized E. Husserl's idea of the nature as a mathematical Universe. From "The Arithmetization of Geometry" to "The Geometrization of Physics".
4) I like your idea of a "thermodynamics of mind" when you deals with a wave process of "mental temperature increase".
5) The statement that "The new integrative paradigm of knowledge will generate new Universe eidos-Eidos of the Self-Aware Universe" is consistent with anthropic principle.
6) You correctly emphasize nuclear weapon among technological risks. Is there any room for nuclear energy (within a pacific framework) in the New Renaissance-Enlightenment Global Era?
7) I strongly endorse the promotion of idea of Open Science.
You wrote an intriguing Essay. I will give you an high score accordingly.
I wish you best luck in the Contest.
Cheers,
Ch.
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Author Vladimir Rogozhin replied on May. 28, 2014 @ 11:53 GMT
Dear Christian,
Thank you for your deep and kind comment. With regard to nuclear power, as an energy engineer and economist, I believe that we need to develop competition in research («Open Science») to overcome the faster all the dangers of nuclear energy. We must move to widely distributed power generation. It is possible that with the development of information technology and a small power engineering "small village" wins "big city". But the main thing - is to overcome all the factors that divide Humanity. Therefore, Science should go ahead and always be open to Humanity. This Contest - a good step.
I also wish you success in the Contest and research!
High regard,
Vladimir
Lorraine Ford wrote on May. 29, 2014 @ 14:20 GMT
Dear Vladimir,
I think you are so right that we lost our sense of the reality behind our arithmetic representations of nature: ""The Arithmetization of Geometry" led to destruction of its sense", and this "sense foundations crisis" has strengthened the "opposition of Homo sapiens sapiens and Nature" and has also led to the "deep essential crisis of fundamental science bases". As you know, the reality behind our representations of nature is also a concern of my essay.
As you say, modern humanity faces existential risks which we must work to overcome. But you look forward to a better future, an Omega Point - a maximum level of complexity and consciousness towards which the universe is evolving. To do this we have to "stop and hear the voice of Earth" (and I love the idea of an "International Mother Earth Day").
Also, the youtube references were inspiring, and I believe we all need inspiration!
Best wishes,
Lorraine
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Author Vladimir Rogozhin replied on May. 29, 2014 @ 19:07 GMT
Dear Lorraine,
Many thanks for your kind comment and appreciation of my essay! I think that overcoming the "crisis of interpretation and representation"(T.Romanovskaya
«Modern physics and contemporary art-parallels of style») in basic science, the "crisis of understanding" of the Nature, its basic structure and its language is only possible by filling the physical picture of the world of the ultimate meanings of the "LifeWorld". Unified picture of the world, the new Eidos Universe for physicists and poets give Humanity a chance to steer the future more confidently. As people of the Earth to find mutual understanding? Problems grow continuously. There is hope for a new "Generation Skype», new ideas, new public structures. It's great that there are more people in the world who do not live only for today, but think in the decades ahead, think about the grandchildren and great-grandchildren. It is very important that such deeply thoughtful people becoming more and more among businessmen. We need a Great Common Dream and Great Common Cause to save Peace, Nature and Humanity. The New Era and a New Generation demanded action.
Best wishes,
Vladimir
Chidi Idika wrote on Jun. 1, 2014 @ 00:06 GMT
Dear Vladimir,
It's a vast range of ideas towards an Open society peopled by free-thinking mankind. You quote Kofi Annan:"… we do not have such organizations which are necessary to us to give the answer to global challenges of this century. It is vital that we got out of this deadlock."
I wonder however that after mankind creates a POWERFUL enough institution then it is faced with the possible abuse of power. In the alternative, mankind finds itself caught in the rut of POWERLESS institutions.
I agree with you that "The new Era demands creation of the new concept of Open Knowledge."
Best wishes. By the way, I share your enchantment with Iceland!
Chidi
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Author Vladimir Rogozhin replied on Jun. 1, 2014 @ 18:46 GMT
Dear Chidi,
Many thanks for your kind comments and support my ideas. I hope that the Information age gives excellent technological resources and capabilities to control political bureaucracy at all levels. People - the source of power and it is necessary to proceed from this postulate of democracy. The time has come for "Democracy 3.0". Thank you very much for supporting the idea of relocation of the UN in Iceland.
Best wishes,
Vladimir
Member Marc Séguin wrote on Jun. 1, 2014 @ 01:46 GMT
Vladimir,
Your essay is certainly an original take on the future of humanity! I especially liked your idea of "modern information technologies [giving] the chance of active creation of open society of free citizens". In order to reach this goal, I agree that we should strive for "deep radical reforms of education systems directed on education of the creative, responsible and ethical human." This is certainly one of the goals of the Futurocentric Education Initiative that I proposed in my essay.
Good luck in the contest!
Marc
P.S. I love your idea of re-localizing he UN headquarters in Iceland, so that the delegates are continuously reminded of the grandeur of Nature and of the importance of its preservation.
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Author Vladimir Rogozhin wrote on Jun. 1, 2014 @ 18:31 GMT
Dear Marc,
Many thanks for your kind and very important comment. Yes, indeed, at the deepest existential level change in the system of education is a priority for more reliable steering the future. Your idea of the system «Futurocentric Education» excellent. Thank you for supporting the idea of re-localizing of the UN. We need a new look at all the activities of the UN. This requirement determines the Information revolution that Humanity is experiencing and the realization of many people in the world all existential risks to Humanity. Need a new quality of work of all UN agencies, the creation of new structures. Too many threats to Humanty, so in need of quick and effective actions. In parallel, it is necessary to strengthen and expand the work of public non-state actors at all levels of the global Community. Need deeply thought-out program of creation of a new UN - "UN 3.0." There are many questions on all UN activities in the new Information era - an era of global awareness of existential risks. All these issues require broad public debate. Future of Humanity can not so much depend on the political bureaucracy with views of the world mechanistic era XVI-XX centuries, concepts and dimensions of "the sement paradigm". Necessary creation of a global system of public diplomacy. Here your program «Futurocentric Education» especially important and urgent. Necessary to create a global system of public diplomacy. Here your program «Futurocentric Education» extremely important and actual. I hope that this Contest FQXi will give new impetus to a broad discussion of the problem of reforming the UN to more reliable steering the Future in the Information age.
Good luck in the contest!
Sincerely,
Vladimir
Neil Bates wrote on Jun. 4, 2014 @ 01:51 GMT
Dear Vladimir,
I find your proposals quite creative. I think Protogeometer is the ultimate creative mind, "geometricizing" as the Pythagoreans and Platonists intuited as a sort of world soul or Logos that is both spirit and total intellect. Your interdisciplinary paper shows your level of education in "the classics" of old, not just modern physics.
It's refreshing that you praise and reference Husserl so much, since that phenomenologist has been mostly forgotten in the world of Anglo-American, (inferior IMHO) "analytic" philosophy. Interesting, that my intellectual Russian/Baltic Facebook friends also like Husserl, and Hanna Arendt, etc and classical thinkers (BTW Plotinus is a favorite of mine.)
Also, I like that you wrote it as a sort of allegorical romance in most parts, not a dry academic screed, as well as the human-interest touch of personal experiences. If I can make constructive criticism: the organizing of the sentence structure can be hard to follow, and there is some residual Russian grammatical structure (which I know is hard for such native speakers to pivot over to English.)
My own
essay deals with fundamental issues of mind and reality, including the nature of will. I hope you and other readers find it compelling. It seems to jump around, but there is method there.
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Author Vladimir Rogozhin replied on Jun. 4, 2014 @ 10:17 GMT
Dear Neil,
Many thanks for your kind and insightful comments. Yes, indeed, the "language of geometric representations" I tried to build a model of "self-aware of the Universe" (My essays FQXi 2012-2013). I believe that this language makes it possible to carry over a deep synthesis of knowledge, to see the deep ontology and dialectics of Nature, dialectic "coincidence of opposites". One of the central ideas of the conception - "vector consciousness", which together with the concepts of the «Logos and «Topos gives an opportunity to "squeeze" the sense of the "LifeWorld" in limiting Eidos - knowledge base. Philosophy of Husserl, in particular his ideas in "The Origin of Geometry" helps find the right way to the base of Knowledge, primordial senses of "LifeWorld" and their "geometrize" as a symbol (eidos). So my way "geometrization" of knowledge: Heraclitus- Plato-Aristotle- Plotinus-Descartes-Cusa-Spinoza-Kant- Hegel-Husserl-Heidegger-Teilhard de Chardin-Losev. I fully agree with Alexander Zenkin: «The truth should be drawn with the help of the cognitive computer visualization technology and should be presented to" an unlimited circle "of spectators in the form of color-musical cognitive images of its immanent essence.» (Alexander Zenkin
«Scientific Counter-Revolution in Mathematics»).
I am very happy, Neil, that you have a very deep philosophical view. I am sure that without profound Philosophy can not be successfully steer the Future. I apologize for the mistakes in the English translation. Unfortunately, it was very difficult to find a professional translator philosophical text. I'm starting to read your essay today.
Best regards,
Vladimir
Neil Bates replied on Jun. 5, 2014 @ 22:26 GMT
Vladimir, you're welcome. Below is a copy of the definition of "eidos" from Merriam-Webster online, a reference respecting scholarly usage. The quote from S. F. Nadel refers to just the sort of allegorical cultural expression of eidos that is the narrative supporting path for "Protogeometer" in your essay.
PS: unfortunately, this form display misrepresents phonetic marks and characters.
Eidosei·dos
noun \ˈīˌdäs, ˈāˌ-\
plural ei·de \ˈīˌdē, ˈāˌdā\
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Full Definition of EIDOS
1: something that is seen or intuited:
a in Platonism : idea
b in Aristotelianism (1) : form, essence (2) : species
c : an appearance, conception, or form of intuition
2: the cognitive part of cultural structure made up of the criteria of credibility, the logic used in thinking and acting, and the basic ideas by which the members of a culture organize and interpret experience : logical structure
The [eidos] is visible wherever group behavior is characterized by intellectual efforts of a similar kind - S. F. Nadel - contrasted with ethos
Origin of EIDOS
Greek, literally, shape, form — more at idol
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Anonymous replied on Jun. 6, 2014 @ 10:16 GMT
Dear Neil,
Many thanks for the deep and important comment. On my system, the three fundamental concept: Logos, Eidos, Topos. Briefly, Eidos I understand how the idea presented in the image. In my conception of eidos - the integrative concept: Plato+Aristotle+Losev. I also agree with (1) and (2). Eidos - the semantic generating logical structure of the Universum presented in the image...
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Dear Neil,
Many thanks for the deep and important comment. On my system, the three fundamental concept: Logos, Eidos, Topos. Briefly, Eidos I understand how the idea presented in the image. In my conception of eidos - the integrative concept: Plato+Aristotle+Losev. I also agree with (1) and (2). Eidos - the semantic generating logical structure of the Universum presented in the image (mathematical) and representing in the unity of the internal and external absolute form of existence of matter. Etos, it is included through the category "justice", (harmony, symmetry). I'll give you some excerpts from the work
Alexey Losev ,
"The Philosophy of the Name" :
«...scheme, topos, eidos and symbol- four necessary faces in which the nominated essence is. The essence shows itself in an eidos
-Logos exists only depending on an eidos and, a trace, from essence; it is essence of an eidos, as an eidos- essence of apophatic X.
The essence doesn't need formal logic and lives besides it, in other logic, in dialectics.
Eidos is something integral
Eidos is something invariable, not submitting to time, eternal, because it — pure sense
Eidos is sense. It is similarity point between an Eidos and Logos
Eidos is an individual community
Eidos inside — itself it is mobile, itself it is transparent
Eidos is the shown face
Eidos is as a sculpture, as a face and a sense picture; Logos shows essence as the principle and a method of manifestation of an eidos in "other".»Semantic depth eidos is that it gives the opportunity to see "coincidence of opposites" of Nature and presented in the form of a simple mathematical object which represents the deep ontology and dialectic of the Universum. It enables visual presentation of the absolute idea, the ontological structure of the Universum.
Fundamental science is not giving essentially grounded eidos of the Universum, which would incorporates all of the ultimate meaning of the world («LifeWorld») and was understood billion people on Earth. Is it possible to safely steer the future based on the hypothesis: "In the beginning was the Big Bang ..."? Need a "guiding star" - eidos of the Universum, she's framework, base and carcas of Knowledge, represent in the symbol as a specific mathematical object.
Many thanks for all links!
Best regards,
Vladimir
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Wilhelmus de Wilde de Wilde wrote on Jun. 14, 2014 @ 16:10 GMT
Dear Vladimir,
Congratulations with your high score in the community rating and your participation in the finalists pool.
I also thank you for your positive comment on my participation and wish you all the success with the "final judgement" .
best wishes
Wilhelmus
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Author Vladimir Rogozhin replied on Jun. 14, 2014 @ 17:51 GMT
Thank you very much, dear Wilhelmus!
I also congratulate you on your participation in the finalists pool and good luck with the "final judgement".
Best wishes,
Vladimir
Anonymous wrote on Jun. 15, 2014 @ 11:46 GMT
FQXi Contest 2012-2014. General conclusions. Extremely hot topic of the Contest FQXi Essay 2014 "How Should Humanity Steer the Future?" gives the chance to sum up the results of Cotests 2012-2014 and discussions in which I took part.
Today is a very serious time for Humanity. 100 years passed since the beginning of the 1st World war. 75 years passed since the beginning of...
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FQXi Contest 2012-2014. General conclusions. Extremely hot topic of the Contest FQXi Essay 2014 "How Should Humanity Steer the Future?" gives the chance to sum up the results of Cotests 2012-2014 and discussions in which I took part.
Today is a very serious time for Humanity. 100 years passed since the beginning of the 1st World war. 75 years passed since the beginning of the 2nd World war. For the period of "Cold war" 1946-1991 occurred 108 local wars and the military conflicts. For the last 23 years - 23 wars and the conflict. In 1962 the Mankind endured "Caribbean Crisis". Here is a message to start a
new Cold war .
The world and Humanity is again on the verge of a split that could lead to nuclear war, "nuclear winter", death of humanity and all life on Earth. Homo ludens again prepares the "big game", as Homo sapiens sapiens was asleep again. Humanity must remember today all earthlings killed in all the wars in history.
In basic science "crisis of representation and interpretation" (T.Rmanovsaya), "crisis of understanding" (K.Kopeykin).
FQXi Essay Contest 2014 gives the chance to answer a question immemorial and especially actual today: "What to do?"
I. Global security. Creation of new Global System of Existential security on the new principles, overcoming of the closed block mentality XVI-XX centuries. Restart the UN from "UN 2.0" to "3.0 UN.". Revitalization of the UN towards global nuclear disarmament, national cultures, international cooperation and public diplomacy. Creation of the World Programme of joint exploration of outer space and the World Ocean. Introduction of Esperanto as the official language of the UN and the international language. Relocation of the UN headquarters in Iceland. Deepening of democracy, conscious transition from "Democracy 2.0" to "Democracy 3.0" - democracy of the Information age. Creation of system of global existential taboos. I completely agree with Flavio Mercati
"U-turn or u die".
II. Science. Refouding of Knowledge. The transition from "Paradigm parts" ("paradigm segment") to integrative paradigm ("over generalizing") - "The whole paradigm" ("The Great Paradigm"). New return to the sources and primordial senses: logos-topos-ontos-eidos-ethos-nomos, "grasp" primordial structure of space, understanding the nature of time and information. Ontological (structural, cosmic) memory - core, the semantic attractor of the new conceptual structure of the Universum. Creation of the "general framework structure"(
D.Gross, an interview "What is in the space-time") establishes ontological foundation, framework and carcass of knowledge. Creation of a new eidos of the Universum ("Sky eidos"), new scientific picture of the world of the Information age in the spirit of the great philosophers of the 20th century Pierre Teilhard de Chardin and Edmund Husserl, which will include the limit meanings of the "LifeWorld" and Human: «The true physics is that which will, one day, achieve the inclusion of man in his wholeness in a coherent picture of the world." Overcoming the semantically poor picture of the world based on the hypothesis "In the Beginning was Big Bang ..." and the transition to the picture of the world on the basis of ontological Superaxiom "In the Beginning was Logos ..." ("Metalaw," «Universal law». «The law of laws", "Law sky"). Conscious transition from "Closed science" to "Open Science" with open competitive basis and principles aimed at accelerating the development of knowledge.
III. Education. The transition from the medieval closed system of education to the creative open education system of the Information age, forming an open ethical personality. Introduction of the principle of historicity in fundamental education. Philosophy and Ethics should be basic disciplines in the education system. I support the great idea of
«the Worldwide Futurocentric Education Initiative» by Marc Séguin.
IV. Economics. Transition from an economy of existential chaos, opposing Nature to Ethical Eco-Economics, that saves the environment and people.
V. Europe - peace outpost. Creation of a New European Security System on new existential principles, promotion and development of the idea of "Greater Europe" as a "union of the peoples"(E.Kant) from the Azores in the west to the east of the Diomede Islands.
John Wheeler and Henry David Thoreau left all Earthlings good covenants to more reliably steer the Future: "Philosophy is too important to be left to the philosophers". "It is by a mathematical point only that we are wise, as the sailor or the fugitive slave keeps the polestar in his eye; but that is sufficient guidance for all our life. We may not arrive at our port within a calculable period, but we would preserve the true course."
We need a Big Dream and Great Common Cause for reliable steer the Future, to save Peace, Nature and Humanity. Great Dream always go alond with
Freedom without fear,
Hope,
Love,
Justice.
Philosophy is very good and faithful navigator on the way. New "Generation SkyPe» says all Humanity:
"We start the path...".
I thank all the contestants, FQXI's team and Contest Partners for the opportunity to participate in the Contests.
Sincerely,
Vladimir Rogozhin
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