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CATEGORY: It From Bit or Bit From It? Essay Contest (2013) [back]
TOPIC: A Brief Examination of Information and Material Objects by Chris Granger [refresh]
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Author Chris Granger wrote on Jul. 10, 2013 @ 12:41 GMT
Essay Abstract

An examination of “information” and “material objects” suggests they represent an intrinsic duality, at least with regard to our perceptual reality.

Author Bio

Former NASA/JPL engineer/computational scientist; video game industry veteran. Current CTO, Liberty Airguns LLC.

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John Brodix Merryman wrote on Jul. 10, 2013 @ 19:22 GMT
Chris,

Clear, concise and well reasoned. Obviously you are not a professional physicist.

I haven't much been bothering to promote my own entry, but it is also a concise effort to cut thought the infinite complexity for which this discipline is a magnet, but you might find it compatible.

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Author Chris Granger replied on Jul. 11, 2013 @ 14:39 GMT
John,

Thanks! I certainly understand your sentiment with respect to the often convoluted papers produced by physicists. But that said, I have to admit my own professional background has conferred the professional physicist moniker on occasion, so I can't reasonably exclude myself from that group either.

I will add that it is comparatively easy to make a radically complex paper, especially a mathematically complex one (as you might imagine, my particular background is quite the haven for such complex contrivances).

As you undoubtedly recognize, it is far more difficult to communicate abstract ideas simply, and if the goal is relating an idea to an audience, especially something as esoteric and general as a response to this essay question, it really needs to focus on the fundamentals.

There is a juncture where mathematical analysis becomes important, but in my view, that doesn't fit within the scope of this particular effort. It seems that you agree with this assessment, and I hope others do also.

Thanks again! And I'll be sure to read and comment on your essay as well!

Chris

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Anonymous replied on Jul. 14, 2013 @ 11:16 GMT
Chris,

(Thought I'd cross post this, since the conversations can get convoluted.)

Thank you for your consideration and it is a bit of a surprise how narrow the focus can be in this field. Personally I come at physics from a more cultural/historical basis, in which it becomes obvious, under all the emotion and drama, that it is physics which determines the course of events. Then getting into studying physics, how much politics and herd behavior guides the field.

While this may not be what you expect, it does build a broad argument for the information/energy dichotomy.

On a further note, here is my entry in last years Questioning the Foundations contest. For someone willing to look at the situation from a different perspective, it may be of interest.

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John Brodix Merryman replied on Jul. 14, 2013 @ 22:02 GMT
Chris,

A couple of other entries you may find of interest:

It from Bit from It from Bit... Nature and Nonlinear Logic by William C. McHarris

Without Cause by Mark Feeley

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Zoran Mijatovic wrote on Jul. 11, 2013 @ 00:20 GMT
Hello Chris,

Cool essay. Differentiating between mathematical abstractions in a virtual continuous absolute space and time, and the real discrete world where a circle is just a bunch of dogs chasing each others tails, is really cool. One question though, is your last sentence truncated deliberately?

Regards.

Zoran.

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Author Chris Granger replied on Jul. 11, 2013 @ 14:48 GMT
Zoran,

Thanks for the comments!

I just re-read my last sentence. Actually, I hadn't planned it so metaphorically, but such does happen on occasion (words can sometimes mirror thoughts). I'm glad you pointed that out!

That said, it's complete but brief; I think you've already got it, but perhaps I can restate... In essence, for something to be manifest as physically existent (at least within our perceptual reality) it cannot be manifest with an infinite precision, and so we would expect incomplete information as compared to an ideal abstraction, and thus similarly inherent quantum behaviors at the most fundamental levels (again, at least within our perceptual reality).

Chris

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Ralph Waldo Walker III wrote on Jul. 11, 2013 @ 00:51 GMT
Chris,

I agree that if, by definition, we were to say that, "if something cannot be known, it simply does not exist," is a contrivance that, "is both unsettling and unsatisfactory; the use of such semantic arguments to constrain scientific principles is hardly scientific." Since all thought is 'conceptual' in nature, and can only provide us with an intellectual picture of 'reality' - whatever reality actually is - then any intellectual understanding would be based upon the manner in which we define things. In particular, how we define 'information' would affect how our minds comprehend reality.

I also agree that the limitations of physics as a science is not suited to capture the entire picture of the universe. The root of the problem in science is that none of its branches study the tree as a whole.

I think you made several good points and enjoyed reading your essay.

Best to you,

Ralph

P. S. Your essay is not the only one wherein 'Joe' describes things as 'codswollop.'

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Author Chris Granger replied on Jul. 11, 2013 @ 15:08 GMT
Ralph,

Thanks for the comments; I'm glad you enjoyed it!

I think you're correct in that science, at least the way it's traditionally studied, is fragmented. My own background is interdisciplinary and I tend to look at things more as extended systems than as specialized fields; perhaps that provides a different type of insight into certain problems.

In the case of understanding the universe in totality, it goes deeper in the sense that we either have to accept that things may exist which 'cannot' be known (and thus science cannot be applied as there is no information) or postulate (without any information) that all things which exist 'can' be known, the latter being true if we limit our universe to some perceptual set - but we then have no way of determining if such is indeed a totality (or even if the term totality has meaning in that respect). It is perhaps more effective to recognize that physics is limited to that which 'can' be known, and thus it is a study of information in that context.

I also think you have honed in on one important aspect of definitions - that they are abstract concepts which we have contrived. So as you noted, we bias our intellectual understanding based on our own set of definitions, which can most certainly lead to circular conclusions in certain circumstances.

Thanks again!

Chris

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Hoang cao Hai wrote on Jul. 11, 2013 @ 06:07 GMT
Dear Chris

You set requirements for one definition of information and I have tried to do that - so suggest you make suggestions to comment.

And to change the atmosphere "abstract" of the competition along with demonstrate for the real preeminent possibility of the Absolute theory as well as to clarify the issues I mentioned in the essay and to avoid duplicate questions after...

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Author Chris Granger replied on Jul. 11, 2013 @ 16:06 GMT
Hoang,

Thanks for the feedback!

You've provided a lot of information in this post; I want to consider it in more detail before giving you a complete response.

In brief though, I agree (at least in principle) that no two separably identifiable 'things' can be be 'exact' in all regards and that 'similarity' does not confer 'exactness' in the strictest sense. That said, I will need to examine your essay to become clear on your particular use of the term 'absolute' within this context.

Thanks again!

Chris

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Satyavarapu Naga Parameswara Gupta wrote on Jul. 11, 2013 @ 21:28 GMT
Dear Chris

Thank you for presenting your nice essay. I saw the abstract and will post my comments soon. So you can produce matter from your thinking. . . .

I am requesting you to go through my essay also. And I take this opportunity to say, to come to reality and base your arguments on experimental results.

I failed mainly because I worked against the main stream. The main...

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Author Chris Granger replied on Jul. 12, 2013 @ 16:34 GMT
SNP,

Thanks for the feedback!

I'm not sure how you interpreted that from my essay. I make no comments or suggestions regarding if one can (or cannot) produce (as in physically manifest) matter from their thinking; I am not addressing such here at all.

I am saying that all things which can be known comprise information, and that the presence of information confers that which...

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Satyavarapu Naga Parameswara Gupta replied on Jul. 15, 2013 @ 06:01 GMT
Dear Chris,

Thank you very much for your interest in my essay and for your time spent on this essay. These are very good questions.

Please note that I will be putting - - - - - before your words. Next will be my answers.

- - - - -I'm not sure how you interpreted that from my essay. I make no comments or suggestions regarding if one can (or cannot) produce (as in physically...

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Satyavarapu Naga Parameswara Gupta wrote on Jul. 14, 2013 @ 20:44 GMT
Part 1

Dear Chris,

Thank you for your post in my essay I am putting my reply here also.

Thank you very much for your interest in my essay and for your time spent on this essay. These are very good questions.

Please note that I will be putting - - - - - before your words. Next will be my answers.

- - - - -Thanks for presenting this essay, it was quite interesting. - - - - -

Thank you very much for your appreciation once again.

- - - - - Although perhaps a bit off topic for this particular contest, I nevertheless appreciate approaches which attempt to examine questions from experimental perspectives. - - - - -

This not off topic please. I think you got my point, instead of wasting educated brain power in very dry half philosophical TOPICS, we should divert them into more practical and experimental results.

- - - - - You might be aware that others have also proposed that the CMBR could be a result of blackbody radiation from matter in the universe. - - - - -

I know. When there is NO mathematical singularity like Bigbang or Blackhole, why such radiation will come? I checked for 100’s of areas in the sky. And the measurements are matching with observations. If you have data for any particular area in the sky, we can work-out together and match and see results. You should be interested in practical experimenting, that’s it.

best

=snp

snp.gupta@gmail.com

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Satyavarapu Naga Parameswara Gupta replied on Jul. 14, 2013 @ 20:50 GMT
Part 2

Dear Chris,

Please continue...

- - - - - That is, if you allow for some mechanism whereby light can experience redshift with distance irrespective of cosmic expansion (of which there have been some arguments) one could posit that such presents an alternative resolution, in the same manner as cosmic expansion. To show this you would need an experiment demonstrating that the redshift occurs regardless of whether cosmic expansion exists, and further that the magnitude of redshift is sufficient to the observed intensity. - - - - -

IF WANT TO KNOW, AND WANT TO COME OUT OT YOUR FEELINGS THAT OUR IS A TOTALLY EXPANDING UNIVERSE, I WILL TELL YOU SOME OF THE TODAY’S OBSERVATIONS IN THE SKY. THERE ARE ALMOST 35% BLUE SHIFTED GALAXIES, 20 % GALAXIES WHICH DON’T SHOW ANY SHIFT AT ALL AND REMAINING ARE REDSHIFTED.

You can have a look at my books…( SEE THE 4TH BOOK)

http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=882633903957483
4163&pli=1#editor/target=page;pageID=3475395384539870110

http
://vaksdynamicuniversemodel.blogspot.in/2012/09/discussion-w
ith-forrest-noble-on-new.html

NOW I WILL ASK YOU HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN ABOUT THE BLUE SHIFTED AND NON-SHIFTED GALAXIES? JUST IGNORE THEM, IS IT NOT…?



- - - - - Without a more detailed review, I'm not yet certain that your particular experiment could suitably differentiate between possible redshift mechanisms and/or anisotropy mechanisms. - - - - -

I REQUEST YOU OR SOME OF YOUR FRIENDS GO FOR A DETAILED REVIEW AND CONTACT ME FOR ALL YOUR PROBLEMS

- - - - - Such a theory suggests that measured WMAP anisotropies result from non-inflationary effects, including redshift effects unrelated to cosmic expansion, of which have not yet been demonstrated as matching the measured data, at least at present, as far as I'm currently aware. - - - - -

Yes I know, please check my data and match with measured data, as I said earlier.

best

=snp

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Satyavarapu Naga Parameswara Gupta replied on Jul. 14, 2013 @ 21:30 GMT
Part3

Dear Chris,

Final part . . . .

- - - - -Also, it appears that from your essay you are considering the ISM/IGM to be the major sources of aliasing when it comes to uniformity in the CMB as measured from Earth; you state that, in your estimation, large anisotropies would be measurable outside of galaxies which suggests yet another resolution mechanism. - - - -...

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Antony Ryan wrote on Jul. 15, 2013 @ 03:47 GMT
Hello Chris,

Your essay is absolutely excellent! A pleasure to read, relevant and interesting.

I think the angle which you attack the question gives a perfect unarguable answer. The example where we can't define Pi to an infinite number of places and the potential consequences this has on the Universe to be in flux along with quantum behaviours at the most fundamental level, seem intuitively sensible. This sits nicely with uncertainty.

One of my favourite essays so far! If you get chance please take a look at mine.

Best wishes,

Antony

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Author Chris Granger replied on Jul. 15, 2013 @ 04:13 GMT
Antony,

Thanks for the excellent feedback (and compliments)! I'm very glad that you enjoyed my essay, and I'm certainly looking forward to reading yours.

Thanks again!

Chris

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Antony Ryan replied on Jul. 15, 2013 @ 05:36 GMT
No problem - as I said - one of my favourites. I'm going to rate it highly now before | forget - there are too many! :o)

Best wishes,

Antony

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Antony Ryan replied on Aug. 5, 2013 @ 14:09 GMT
Thanks for the excellent comments over on my thread Chris!

All the best,

Antony

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Jonathan J. Dickau wrote on Jul. 15, 2013 @ 18:23 GMT
Hi Chris,

I enjoyed your essay, and I agree with your points fairly broadly, finding no major points of contention, but I think the paper was way too short. Somehow; I get the impression that, while you could have said more - and probably would have had cool stuff to say - you ducked the responsibility to elaborate, because it might get you into trouble. I think you will find several points of agreement with my essay, but you will also see that I made a diligent effort to carry those thoughts forward to their logical conclusions. I hope you will enjoy, and feel that my extra effort was warranted.

I like your statements about PI and the nature of the absolute. In my case; it would be the shores of the Mandelbrot Set that take me there. There comes a point where the image can no longer be faithfully resolved, because binary decomposition sets in when the distance to the next pixel is smaller than the smallest bit available to represent that size of number on the computer. In the purely theoretical sense, you know there is something specific there, and you may be able to identify it as a miniature copy of M, but it becomes a physical impossibility to zoom in one more time, at some point.

Regards,

Jonathan

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Author Chris Granger replied on Jul. 16, 2013 @ 02:28 GMT
Jonathan,

Thanks for the comments; I'm glad you enjoyed it and wanted to read more! And sure, I certainly could have written more (in fact, I could have written volumes). But this essay was intended to address a specific topic and answer a specific question with clarity; there was no need for additional prose - verbosity does not confer clarity.

It's not about ducking or getting into trouble, but rather precision of explanation. Given the goals of this essay contest, there's no compelling reason to write nine pages when two pages convey the same fundamental message. One can always elaborate to infinity, but there's little reason to do so in this particular case. If this were a fiction novel it might be different, but that wasn't the intent here.

Thanks again, and I'll be sure to review your essay!

Chris

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Michael Helland wrote on Jul. 15, 2013 @ 22:10 GMT
Hello,

Nice work. You write: That is, in such a case one cannot have the information without the entities.

That seems to preclude the possibility of our theories being wrong.

Through tout history and even in science sometimes we think we have information about something and it turns out that something doesn't exist, because our understanding was so wrong.

Things like dragons and ghosts and the big bang.

Also, I should point out that you make the "soup" approach as described in my entry, where what is real is narrowly focused on just one type of real, one mode of existence.

The chair I'm sitting in and the experience of its hardness are both real, but not in the same way.

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Author Chris Granger replied on Jul. 16, 2013 @ 01:53 GMT
Michael,

Thanks for your feedback!

Current theories can most certainly be wrong; I made no statement suggesting otherwise. Rather, in that particular sentence you've taken out of context, I was summarizing the duality of information and material objects of which I had shown previously.

My essay speaks to the fundamental nature of information, not our understandings or interpretations of it. As I noted to an earlier commenter, I am not speaking to any specific abstract interpretation of some information, but rather information itself. An interpretation of some information subset may be incorrect, but such is a fault of errant conclusion via ignorance; this may be partly a function of the level of information incompleteness, but has noting to do with information itself.

When we talk of physics we talk of what can be known. And, as I mentioned in my essay, definitions by their nature can present issues including circular reasoning. For instance, you defined subsets of 'real' in your above comment in accordance with your own interpretive sentiments; I would argue that both of your examples are 'real' and thus residing within one set in our perceptual reality. They both comprise information and as such both can be known; thus, they are real within the context of physics and our perceptual reality. While you may arbitrarily choose to further segregate them via specific features or whatnot, they still both reside within one set of reality.

Chris

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Michael Helland replied on Jul. 16, 2013 @ 09:15 GMT
Thanks for the response.

You mentioned: "Current theories can most certainly be wrong; I made no statement suggesting otherwise"

True, true.

But you also said information is what we know about entities.

Do I have that right?

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Author Chris Granger replied on Jul. 16, 2013 @ 13:06 GMT
Michael,

Actually no, that's not an accurate representation of what I said.

Information is that which 'can be known'. Conversely, that which 'cannot be known' does not comprise information. As a study, physics can only consider that which 'can be known' and is thus a study of information. My essay shows why information and material objects present an intrinsic duality within the context of physics, at least within our perceptual reality.

Note that this is fundamentally different then saying information is 'what we know about entities' because such a definition implies 'our knowledge' about things. Our state of knowledge is irrelevant to the presence of information. By definition, information becomes knowledge when it becomes known. This does not simply imply human knowledge, but knowledge in a physics sense in that information has been sensed in some fashion. Due to the fundamental inability to represent information physically with infinite precision, that which becomes known will always be incomplete with respect to the total possible information in any continuous abstract representation. This suggests fundamentally quantum behaviors, at least within our perceptual reality.

Chris

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Akinbo Ojo wrote on Jul. 17, 2013 @ 10:00 GMT
Dear Chris,

A very short essay, straight to the point and to be re-read later. Meanwhile...

As the contest in Wheeler's honor draws to a close, leaving for the moment considerations of rating and prize money, and knowing we cannot all agree on whether 'it' comes from 'bit' or otherwise or even what 'it' and 'bit' mean, and as we may not be able to read all essays, though we should try, I pose the following 4 simple questions and will rate you accordingly before July 31 when I will be revisiting your blog.

"If you wake up one morning and dip your hand in your pocket and 'detect' a million dollars, then on your way back from work, you dip your hand again and find that there is nothing there…

1) Have you 'elicited' an information in the latter case?

2) If you did not 'participate' by putting your 'detector' hand in your pocket, can you 'elicit' information?

3) If the information is provided by the presence of the crisp notes ('its') you found in your pocket, can the absence of the notes, being an 'immaterial source' convey information?

Finally, leaving for the moment what the terms mean and whether or not they can be discretely expressed in the way spin information is discretely expressed, e.g. by electrons

4) Can the existence/non-existence of an 'it' be a binary choice, representable by 0 and 1?"

Answers can be in binary form for brevity, i.e. YES = 1, NO = 0, e.g. 0-1-0-1.

Best regards,

Akinbo

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Author Chris Granger replied on Jul. 17, 2013 @ 19:17 GMT
Akinbo,

Thanks for the comments!

I certainly hope you appreciate the concise manner in how I've presented this. As I noted to another commenter, verbosity does not confer clarity. In this particular case, and for this particular purpose, additional prose doesn't convey additional salient meaning.

While the answers to your questions may be found in my essay, I'll play along...

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Akinbo Ojo replied on Jul. 20, 2013 @ 12:34 GMT
Thanks Chris,

I appreciate your time in responding to the 4 questions. The words elicit, participate, detector are as used by Wheeler in his famous It from Bit quote.

I am rating your essay not on the brevity but on the high factual content.

Best regards,

Akinbo

*My essay is longer so I don't know if you have the time to read and rate.

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Author Chris Granger replied on Jul. 21, 2013 @ 04:39 GMT
Thanks! I certainly did not mean to imply that you were the only one to use the term 'elicit'; if answering to Wheeler I would have identically clarified that term as used within this question's scope to avoid mistakenly convolving 'knowledge' of information and information 'itself'.

I will try to find some time to read and comment on your paper, however I cannot guarantee that I can give it proper diligence before the contest end date. However, I will read it in detail at some point and if you'd still like my feedback I can provide it.

Thanks again,

Chris

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basudeba mishra wrote on Jul. 18, 2013 @ 03:58 GMT
Dear Sir,

Information is specific data reporting the state of something based on observation (measurements), organized and summarized for a purpose within a context that gives it meaning and relevance and can lead to either an increase in understanding or decrease in uncertainty. Information is not tied to one’s specific knowledge of how particles are created and their early interactions,...

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Author Chris Granger replied on Jul. 18, 2013 @ 15:12 GMT
Thanks for your comment.

Unfortunately, you are fundamentally incorrect in your description (and understanding) of information in this context; further, you have misrepresented my position in several regards.

I urge you to carefully re-read my essay, and also the feedback I've provided with others in this thread. All the concepts for recognizing your errors are included there, including your errant convolution of information 'itself' with the 'knowledge' of information, of which are two very separate concepts.

Thanks again.

Chris

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basudeba mishra wrote on Jul. 19, 2013 @ 00:30 GMT
Thank you Sir,

for pointing out our deficiencies. We will try to improve upon it.

The fact that we wrote such a long analysis shows that we have read your essay very carefully. Since our essay has been highly appreciated by those who have read it (including Dr. Klingman, who commented on it superlatively in his thread), we must have known a little about the subject. But you are entitled to your remarks.

We do not do a cut and paste job. We do fundamental research and question anything that does not correspond to reality or logically not consistent. Thus, we understand your views. We admit that we do not understand 'establishment science', because we are not superstitious and do not accept everything blindly and parrot it as knowledge. In stead of referring us to your essay and your comments, which are essentially compilations of misguided views of others, it would have been better if you had pointed specific errors in our post, so that we would have got an opportunity to explain or if necessary, correct our position. After all, we are not here for any recognition or money or false vanity, but to understand Nature for our own satisfaction.

Regards,

basudeba

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Author Chris Granger replied on Jul. 19, 2013 @ 02:33 GMT
My response was because you used my examples as mere segways for your viewpoints while ignoring the salient aspects of my essay; the remarks I have made to other commenters are important because they have covered some of these aspects.

I would certainly be willing to engage in a discourse, but I'd like you to understand my position properly before doing so. In addition, I am not one who...

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Yutaka Shikano wrote on Jul. 20, 2013 @ 14:46 GMT
Hi Chris,

I really enjoyed reading your essay. I would like to ask you your opinion on the Shannon original papers about the amount of information. His papers seem to be opposite to your viewpoint.

Best wishes,

Yutaka

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Anonymous replied on Jul. 21, 2013 @ 05:08 GMT
Yutaka,

Thanks; I'm glad you enjoyed my essay!

I would posit that my viewpoint, although more fundamental than Shannon, is certainly compatible with information entropy when considered from an information theoretic context, given such as a pre-detector predictive/post-detector realized state. Perhaps you could elaborate on what you've interpreted as the dichotomy of views so I can more appropriately address your question. That said, I do want to caution that 'knowledge' of information (what is 'detected') and information 'itself' (that which can be known) are fundamentally different (as described in my essay).

Thanks again!

Chris

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Peter Jackson wrote on Jul. 20, 2013 @ 18:37 GMT
Chris,

Great essay. I do like your thesis, and very well presented. At this stage the vale of concise is enhanced! I nice boost to you on the way.

It seems we both have a foot each in the pro-am camps. I'm sure you agree that has both good and bad effects.

My own is a bit more empirical, but also quite radical and ambitious. I do hope you'll read and like it.

Very best wishes.

Peter

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Sreenath B N wrote on Jul. 21, 2013 @ 02:43 GMT
Dear Chris,

I have down loaded your essay and soon post my comments on it. Meanwhile, please, go through my essay and post your comments.

Regards and good luck in the contest,

Sreenath BN.

http://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/1827

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sridattadev kancharla wrote on Jul. 23, 2013 @ 00:30 GMT
Dear All,

It is with utmost joy and love that I give you all the cosmological iSeries which spans the entire numerical spectrum from -infinity through 0 to +infinity and the simple principle underlying it is sum of any two consecutive numbers is the next number in the series. 0 is the base seed and i can be any seed between 0 and infinity.

iSeries always yields two sub semi...

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Than Tin wrote on Jul. 26, 2013 @ 04:34 GMT
Hello Chris

Richard Feynman in his Nobel Acceptance Speech

(http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/physics/laureates/19
65/feynman-lecture.html)

said: “It always seems odd to me that the fundamental laws of physics, when discovered, can appear in so many different forms that are not apparently identical at first, but with a little mathematical fiddling you can show the...

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Manuel S Morales wrote on Jul. 29, 2013 @ 01:30 GMT
Dear Chris,

I found your essay provocative and deeply introspective regarding how we perceive reality. I agree with your summary, "that all real things are approximations of their potential information." Although you have a different approach to the essay topic than I do, I found your conclusion inspiring and most worthy of merit.

I hope that more people will take the time to review your insightful essay.

Best wishes,

Manuel

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john stephan selye wrote on Aug. 1, 2013 @ 21:57 GMT
Having read so many insightful essays, I am probably not the only one to find that my views have crystallized, and that I can now move forward with growing confidence. I cannot exactly say who in the course of the competition was most inspiring - probably it was the continuous back and forth between so many of us. In this case, we should all be grateful to each other.

If I may, I'd like to...

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john stephan selye wrote on Aug. 1, 2013 @ 22:00 GMT
Dear Chris - I posted the above - please note that I will read and rate your essay in the next two days. I see that Mr. Morales recommends it - and he found my work very relevant to his own. I hope to hear from you soon!

John

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Antony Ryan wrote on Aug. 3, 2013 @ 20:32 GMT
Dear Chris,

I've lost a lot of comments and replies on my thread and many other threads I have commented on over the last few days. This has been a lot of work and I feel like it has been a waste of time and energy. Seems to have happened to others too - if not all.

I WILL ATTEMPT to revisit all threads to check and re-post something. I think your thread was one affected by this.

I can't remember the full extent of what I said, but I have notes so know that I rated your work very highly.

Hopefully the posts will be able to be retrieved by FQXi.

Best wishes,

Antony

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eAmazigh M. HANNOU wrote on Aug. 6, 2013 @ 01:20 GMT
Dear Chris,

We are at the end of this essay contest.

In conclusion, at the question to know if Information is more fundamental than Matter, there is a good reason to answer that Matter is made of an amazing mixture of eInfo and eEnergy, at the same time.

Matter is thus eInfo made with eEnergy rather than answer it is made with eEnergy and eInfo ; because eInfo is eEnergy, and the one does not go without the other one.

eEnergy and eInfo are the two basic Principles of the eUniverse. Nothing can exist if it is not eEnergy, and any object is eInfo, and therefore eEnergy.

And consequently our eReality is eInfo made with eEnergy. And the final verdict is : eReality is virtual, and virtuality is our fundamental eReality.

Good luck to the winners,

And see you soon, with good news on this topic, and the Theory of Everything.

Amazigh H.

I rated your essay.

Please visit My essay.

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Margriet Anne O'Regan wrote on Aug. 6, 2013 @ 01:51 GMT
Hello Chris, from Margriet O'Regan from Down Under

I certainly enjoyed your analysis !! "Anything can abstractly possess an infinite amount of information, including both infinite temporal and spatial precision, which must be truncated for it to exist in any tangible sense." Here I see you running up against what theoretical physicists 'problematic infinities' which apparently keep cropping...

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Franklin Hu wrote on Aug. 7, 2013 @ 05:11 GMT
At least you were brief and understandable to the average public.

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Cristinel Stoica wrote on Aug. 7, 2013 @ 07:34 GMT
Hi, votes are vanishing again.

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Michael Helland wrote on Aug. 7, 2013 @ 16:23 GMT
Nice work. I gave you a ten.

http://www.fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/1616

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Paul Borrill wrote on Aug. 7, 2013 @ 19:07 GMT
Dear Chris,

I have now finished reviewing all 180 essays for the contest and appreciate your contribution to this competition.

I have been thoroughly impressed at the breadth, depth and quality of the ideas represented in this contest. In true academic spirit, if you have not yet reviewed my essay, I invite you to do so and leave your comments.

You can find the latest version of my essay here:

http://fqxi.org/data/forum-attachments/Borrill-TimeOne-
V1.1a.pdf

(sorry if the fqxi web site splits this url up, I haven’t figured out a way to not make it do that).

May the best essays win!

Kind regards,

Paul Borrill

paul at borrill dot com

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