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It From Bit or Bit From It? Essay Contest (2013)
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Author Jayakar Johnson Joseph wrote on Jul. 3, 2013 @ 13:08 GMT
Essay AbstractOn considering the continuum nature of information, this essay describes the observational inconsistency that exists with Exclusive binary numeral system that defines the unit of information as Bit. Thus to minimise the discreteness in information detection with Bit unit of information, Ternary numeral system to be inclusive of Binary numeral system for defining a quantum information unit in matrix that determines a probability density on incident time quantization in Ternary numeral system. In particle scenario as the unit of observation is particle, the information for the observer is detection rather than observation that is probabilistic rather than realistic. In this article a string-matter continuum scenario in the paradigm, ‘Coherently-cyclic Clusters of String-matter Universe (CSU)’ is discussed in correlation with the particle scenario of Standard Model, to resolve the paradoxes on information continuum of nature. Thus the responds for the argument, ‘It from Bit or Bit from It?’ is concluded as, ‘Yes’ on both in entirety, that is ‘1’, in that information continuum is conformal.
Author Bio1977: Completion of medical graduation; 1979–1995: Private medical practice and software designing in Healthcare; 1988: Enrolled for post graduation study in General Surgery; 1995 onwards: Research in alternative cosmology; 2000: developed a generic methodology, ‘Triplet clustering and computing the Heterogeneous-matters of Universe’; 2006 onwards: Teaching faculty in Medical Radiological Physics, Optometry, Medical Biophysics; 2009: Completed a course on Diploma in Astronomy and Astrophysics; on 2010: Published patent applications on ‘Coherently-cyclic Cluster-matter universe model’ and waiting for the granting of patent. Work abstract at, http://www.clustermatteruniverse.net
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James Lee Hoover wrote on Jul. 3, 2013 @ 20:13 GMT
Jayakar,
If given the time and the wits to evaluate over 120 more entries, I have a month to try. My seemingly whimsical title, “It’s good to be the king,” is serious about our subject.
Jim
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Author Jayakar Johnson Joseph replied on Jul. 4, 2013 @ 00:39 GMT
Thank you dear James,
The observer cannot be the creator (source) whereas the observer is linked with the creator and thus string-matter continuum is the nature of Universe that is everything in entirety, though the earth happed to be privileged on the Homeomorphic Segmental-fluctuations of the Universe in the present period of time.
With Best wishes, Jayakar
Author Jayakar Johnson Joseph replied on Jul. 13, 2013 @ 12:08 GMT
Dear James,
On continuation with this I have posted a comment
at your essay webpage for better clarity on this.
Jayakar
Satyavarapu Naga Parameswara Gupta wrote on Jul. 4, 2013 @ 13:17 GMT
Dear Jayakar,
Thank you for an Very good essay. The information continuum is a nice introduction.
So you think that matter can be formed just by bits of information from nothing...?
Mean while.....
I am requesting you to go through my essay also. And I take this opportunity to say, to come to reality and base your arguments on experimental results.
I failed...
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Dear Jayakar,
Thank you for an Very good essay. The information continuum is a nice introduction.
So you think that matter can be formed just by bits of information from nothing...?
Mean while.....
I am requesting you to go through my essay also. And I take this opportunity to say, to come to reality and base your arguments on experimental results.
I failed mainly because I worked against the main stream. The main stream community people want magic from science instead of realty especially in the subject of cosmology. We all know well that cosmology is a subject where speculations rule.
Hope to get your comments even directly to my mail ID also. . . .
Best
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Part of abstract:
- -Material objects are more fundamental- - is being proposed in this paper; It is well known that there is no mental experiment, which produced material. . . Similarly creation of matter from empty space as required in Steady State theory or in Bigbang is another such problem in the Cosmological counterpart. . . . In this paper we will see about CMB, how it is generated from stars and Galaxies around us. And here we show that NO Microwave background radiation was detected till now after excluding radiation from Stars and Galaxies. . . .
Some complements from FQXi community. . . . .
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Anton Lorenz Vrba wrote on May. 4, 2013 @ 13:43 GMT
……. I do love your last two sentences - that is why I am coming back.
Author Satyavarapu Naga Parameswara Gupta replied on May. 6, 2013 @ 09:24 GMT
. . . . We should use our minds to down to earth realistic thinking. There is no point in wasting our brains in total imagination which are never realities. It is something like showing, mixing of cartoon characters with normal people in movies or people entering into Game-space in virtual reality games or Firing antimatter into a black hole!!!. It is sheer a madness of such concepts going on in many fields like science, mathematics, computer IT etc. . . .
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Francis V wrote on May. 11, 2013 @ 02:05 GMT
Well-presented argument about the absence of any explosion for a relic frequency to occur and the detail on collection of temperature data……
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Robert Bennett wrote on May. 14, 2013 @ 18:26 GMT
"Material objects are more fundamental"..... in other words "IT from Bit" is true.
Author Satyavarapu Naga Parameswara Gupta replied on May. 14, 2013 @ 22:53 GMT
1. It is well known that there is no mental experiment, which produced material.
2. John Wheeler did not produce material from information.
3. Information describes material properties. But a mere description of material properties does not produce material.
4. There are Gods, Wizards, and Magicians, allegedly produced material from nowhere. But will that be a scientific experiment?
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Hoang cao Hai wrote on Jun. 16, 2013 @ 16:22 GMT
It from bit - where are bit come from?
Author Satyavarapu Naga Parameswara Gupta replied on Jun. 17, 2013 @ 06:10 GMT
….And your question is like asking, -- which is first? Egg or Hen?— in other words Matter is first or Information is first? Is that so? In reality there is no way that Matter comes from information.
Matter is another form of Energy. Matter cannot be created from nothing. Any type of vacuum cannot produce matter. Matter is another form of energy. Energy is having many forms: Mechanical, Electrical, Heat, Magnetic and so on..
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Antony Ryan wrote on Jun. 23, 2013 @ 22:08 GMT
…..Either way your abstract argument based empirical evidence is strong given that "a mere description of material properties does not produce material". While of course materials do give information.
I think you deserve a place in the final based on this alone. Concise - simple - but undeniable.
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Author Jayakar Johnson Joseph replied on Jul. 4, 2013 @ 18:25 GMT
Thank you dear Gupta,
In particle scenario, information is energy transfer; whereas in string-matter continuum of eternal universe, information is the transfer of string-matter segment with its rotational energy.
As the observational information by bit unit of information is probabilistic rather than realistic, the observational information of experimentations itself is probabilistic and not realistic.
With best wishes
Jayakar
Satyavarapu Naga Parameswara Gupta replied on Jul. 25, 2013 @ 15:03 GMT
Thank you Jayakar
For your nice writing. You are correct in the particle scenario. "Information is energy transfer ...... observational information by bit unit of information is probabilistic rather than realistic, the observational information of experimentations.... "
Best
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Author Jayakar Johnson Joseph replied on Aug. 2, 2013 @ 10:35 GMT
Thank you dear Gupta,
Jayakar
Hoang cao Hai wrote on Jul. 5, 2013 @ 02:27 GMT
Dear Uncle 3J
Argument of uncle is increasingly deeper - than last time - wish you always have the most good.
And to change the atmosphere "abstract" of the competition and to demonstrate for the real preeminent possibility of the Absolute theory as well as to clarify the issues I mentioned in the essay and to avoid duplicate questions after receiving the opinion of you , I will add...
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Dear Uncle 3J
Argument of uncle is increasingly deeper - than last time - wish you always have the most good.
And to change the atmosphere "abstract" of the competition and to demonstrate for the real preeminent possibility of the Absolute theory as well as to clarify the issues I mentioned in the essay and to avoid duplicate questions after receiving the opinion of you , I will add a reply to you :
THE ADDITIONAL ARTICLES AND A SMALL TEST FOR MUTUAL BENEFIT
1 . THE ADDITIONAL ARTICLES
A. What thing is new and the difference in the absolute theory than other theories?
The first is concept of "Absolute" in my absolute theory is defined as: there is only one - do not have any similar - no two things exactly alike.
The most important difference of this theory is to build on the entirely new basis and different platforms compared to the current theory.
B. Why can claim: all things are absolute - have not of relative ?
It can be affirmed that : can not have the two of status or phenomenon is the same exists in the same location in space and at the same moment of time - so thus: everything must be absolute and can not have any of relative . The relative only is a concept to created by our .
C. Why can confirm that the conclusions of the absolute theory is the most specific and detailed - and is unique?
Conclusion of the absolute theory must always be unique and must be able to identify the most specific and detailed for all issues related to a situation or a phenomenon that any - that is the mandatory rules of this theory.
D. How the applicability of the absolute theory in practice is ?
The applicability of the absolute theory is for everything - there is no limit on the issue and there is no restriction on any field - because: This theory is a method to determine for all matters and of course not reserved for each area.
E. How to prove the claims of Absolute Theory?
To demonstrate - in fact - for the above statement,we will together come to a specific experience, I have a small testing - absolutely realistic - to you with title:
2 . A SMALL TEST FOR MUTUAL BENEFIT :
“Absolute determination to resolve for issues reality”
That is, based on my Absolute theory, I will help you determine by one new way to reasonable settlement and most effective for meet with difficulties of you - when not yet find out to appropriate remedies - for any problems that are actually happening in reality, only need you to clearly notice and specifically about the current status and the phenomena of problems included with requirements and expectations need to be resolved.
I may collect fees - by percentage of benefits that you get - and the commission rate for you, when you promote and recommend to others.
Condition : do not explaining for problems as impractical - no practical benefit - not able to determine in practice.
To avoid affecting the contest you can contact me via email : hoangcao_hai@yahoo.com
Hope will satisfy and bring real benefits for you along with the desire that we will find a common ground to live together in happily.
Hải.Caohoàng
Add another problem, which is:
USE OF THE EQUATIONS AND FORMULA IN ESSAY
There have been some comments to me to questions is: why in my essay did not use the equations and formulas to interpret?
The reason is:
1. The currently equations and formulas are not able to solve all problems for all concerned that they represent.
2. Through research, I found: The application of the equations and formulas when we can not yet be determined the true nature of the problem will create new problems - there is even more complex and difficult to resolve than the original.
I hope so that : you will sympathetic and consideration to avoid misunderstanding my comments.
http://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/1802
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Author Jayakar Johnson Joseph replied on Jul. 6, 2013 @ 02:45 GMT
Thank you dear Hai,
In a set of multiple Relational questions, the absoluteness of answers for each question element is within interval limits of an integral that maps in continuum with another. Thus unitarity rather than quantization is more pragmatic with information continuum, whereas quantisation is imperative to measure information.
In this aspect, ‘It from Bit or Bit from It?’ is Relational questions, in that the absoluteness of answers for both questions, are true within the interval limits of the integrals indicating the answer in entirety is also true, that is ‘1’ in binary.
With best wishes, Jayakar
Vladimir Rogozhin wrote on Jul. 9, 2013 @ 12:26 GMT
Hello Jayakar,
A very important essay, the direction of research and conclusion: «Information continuum is not observational exclusively with bit contraction of base-2 Binary numeral system and thus Ternary numeral system to be inclusive of defining an information unit on quantizing the incident time in probability density matrices for the detection of information in near reality. Thus it is concluded that string-matter continuum is imperative for the information continuum to observe the realistic information of nature and to resolve the paradoxes in particle scenario. This indicates a profound inconsistency that exists between Information science and Information technology. »
I think that our essays are very close on the philosophical grounds and areas of research. In addition, You know all the intricacies of physics and mathematics. I continue to read your other research. Good luck and best wishes, Vladimir
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Author Jayakar Johnson Joseph replied on Jul. 9, 2013 @ 16:45 GMT
Thank you dear Vladimir for your kind appreciation.
With best regards and wishes,
Jayakar
Vladimir F. Tamari wrote on Jul. 12, 2013 @ 00:07 GMT
Dear Dr. Jayakar
I read with great interest your essay and looked at your research website. Your work reveals an original and well developed way of thinking about the fundamentals of physics. You propose tetrahedral units of electromagnetic energy and the way they interact is by the rotation of these units. As such I agree with you because my own
Beautiful Universe Theory also found
here posits that everything is made up of dielectric lattice of nodes transmitting rotational energy, that is, angular momentum. These nodes are arranged in a Face-Centered Cubic arrangement like a crystal so that tetrahedral arrangements are embedded naturally within the system. fqxi contributors and others also proposed tetrahedral building blocks, but not in the way you have done.
You are more knowledgeable than me about particle physics, Feynman diagrams, etc. and I have no doubt that within the logic of your theory you are right. What I find a bit confusing is that you express your original ideas with the vocabulary of the 'other' physics - strings, probability, etc. This gives them some credibility but does not add to their understanding. I wish I able to comment on the many technical points your theory raises, but your ideas are certainly an original way to answer the It Bit question. I wish you the best of luck.
Vladimir
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Author Jayakar Johnson Joseph wrote on Jul. 13, 2013 @ 04:43 GMT
Thank you Dear Vladimir,
I have gone through your article describing your discovery of BU theory. I think your work is on Space charge continuum in that you have defined building blocks for the universe. In that the concept of ‘node’ ascribed in your theory is well descriptive with eigen-rotational string-matter segments, in that the dynamics of the junction of two segments may represent the formation of a virtual node. If you are interested we shall have regular interactions to integrate both works, in that I think we may emerge with solutions for the unification of fundamental forces, in particularly gravity with electromagnetism.
With best wishes
Jayakar
Vladimir F. Tamari replied on Jul. 21, 2013 @ 01:54 GMT
Dear Jayakar
Thank you for your interesting comments about BU theory and your kind offer. This theory emerged from research starting decades ago and I wrote it in 2005 - and over the decades I have developed an opus operandi of working on very small sections of the theory at a time. I am honored by your offer to integrate our works, but I think that will be difficult for me with my small capacity for learning new things (at my age) and the need to drastically adapt my theory to your well-developed system. I sincerely wish you the best of luck.
BTW if you did not rate
my essay The Cloud of Unknowing please consider doing so.
Vladimir
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Author Jayakar Johnson Joseph replied on Jul. 26, 2013 @ 17:55 GMT
Thank you Dear Vladimir,
I think I have to be more elaborative on the integration aspect that I have perceived on your work. Anyhow I may contact you latter to exchange our ideas.
With best regards,
Jayakar
Cristinel Stoica wrote on Jul. 20, 2013 @ 16:11 GMT
Dear Jayakar,
Very interesting essay. It seems to me as part of a larger research program. I agree with many parts of what you said, in particular with the idea that "Information continuum that is observational in particle scenario is only a probabilistic detection rather than observational information continuum that is realistic". I wish you good luck with this contest, your research, and the experiment concerning the string nature of partons.
Best regards,
Cristi
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Author Jayakar Johnson Joseph replied on Jul. 20, 2013 @ 17:49 GMT
Akinbo Ojo wrote on Jul. 22, 2013 @ 13:23 GMT
Hello Jayakar,
Nice essay with new insights. From your essay, does it mean existence/non-existence is a binary information? If you think so, check
my essay and rate if it is okay.
Best regards,
Akinbo
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Author Jayakar Johnson Joseph replied on Jul. 22, 2013 @ 15:18 GMT
Thank you dear Akinbo,
Information in particle scenario is the transfer of energy, whereas in string-matter continuum it is transfer of matter with energy. Binary is the abstraction to define unit of information in that there is mathematical constrains on observations. Without existence there is no non-existence and thus the continuum in infinity is the existence.
I shall go through your essay and express my perceptions soon.
With best regards,
Jayakar
Sreenath B N wrote on Jul. 24, 2013 @ 09:57 GMT
Dear Jayakar,
I have down loaded your essay and soon post my comments on it. Meanwhile, please, go through my essay and post your comments.
Regards and good luck in the contest,
Sreenath BN.
http://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/1827
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Author Jayakar Johnson Joseph replied on Jul. 24, 2013 @ 16:12 GMT
Thank you, dear Sreenath,
I shall go through your essay and submit my perceptions on that, soon.
With best regards
Jayakar
Sreenath B N replied on Jul. 25, 2013 @ 13:53 GMT
Dear Jayakar,
Thanks for your response to my posting in your thread. I have downloaded your essay and post my comments on it shortly in your thread.
Best wishes,
Sreenath
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Author Jayakar Johnson Joseph replied on Jul. 25, 2013 @ 15:08 GMT
Dear Sreenath,
Hope you might have seen my perceptions on your essay.
With best regards,
Jayakar
Christian Corda wrote on Jul. 24, 2013 @ 10:31 GMT
Hi Jayakar,
As promised in my Essay page, I have read your Essay. I think it is beautiful and a bit provocative. On the other hand, I appreciate people who "thinks outside the box". In particular, I find extremely important your statement "Information continuum that is observational in particle scenario is only a probabilistic detection rather than observational information continuum that is realistic". As I wrote in my Essay page in reply to your comments, I agree with you on the issue that in particle scenario the observational information is not observational in continuum is exactly the core of the information paradox. In my opinion your statement is completely in agreement with the famous aphorism by Einstein that you cited: "God does not play dice with the Universe". In other words, I agree with you deterministic vision of the Universe. I also took a look to your research website, I encourage you to further go on with your research fields. In general, your Essay gave me lots of fun. Thus, I will give you an high score.
Cheers,
Ch.
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Author Jayakar Johnson Joseph replied on Jul. 24, 2013 @ 16:00 GMT
Thank you, dear Corda for your kind encouragement.
With best regards
Jayakar
Antony Ryan wrote on Jul. 25, 2013 @ 04:48 GMT
Dear Jayakar,
I like your essay and it seems our work may overlap. I've formulated a geometric theory which partly unifies the four forces and resolves the three paradoxes of cosmogony. It relates the masses of the proton, neutron and electron to 99.999988% of theory and the results improve with more data out of Cern.
The theory is based on simplex geometry and I noticed your tetrahedral branes - so looks compatible!
My essay her doesn't explain my ToE geometry, except it also utilises simplex geometry to explain entropy around Black Holes, the arrow of time and results in Fibonacci sequence.
I hope we can exchange ideas in the future?
Best wishes for the contest and congratulations on an excellent essay - I rate it highly!
Antony
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Author Jayakar Johnson Joseph replied on Jul. 25, 2013 @ 14:47 GMT
Thank you dear Antony,
I am much interested with simplex geometry on restructuring the atomic analogy and building up molecular modelling in this scenario. Surely I shall go through your essay and shall have discussions with you soon.
With best regards,
Jayakar
Antony Ryan replied on Jul. 27, 2013 @ 07:48 GMT
Dear Jayakar,
Thanks for your comments over on my page. I am keen to explain more, as I think we can find good overlap. I've left a reply, but will elaborate early in the coming week.
Best wishes and thanks for presenting your interesting work,
Antony
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Author Jayakar Johnson Joseph replied on Jul. 27, 2013 @ 09:13 GMT
Thank you dear Antony,
Some of the work on simplex that you may be interested for further developments is also been attached herewith.
With best regards,
Jayakar
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1_Spin_simplex.pdf
Antony Ryan replied on Aug. 1, 2013 @ 15:57 GMT
Jayakar,
Many thanks for the attachment.
Best wishes,
Antony
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Author Jayakar Johnson Joseph replied on Aug. 2, 2013 @ 08:27 GMT
Most welcome dear Antony,
Herewith some more attachment that is useful for you, to work together for further developments on this. Much pleased to have further discussions with you.
With best regards,
Jayakar
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1_Collective_gravity.pdf
Antony Ryan replied on Aug. 3, 2013 @ 20:18 GMT
I thought I'd replied here - may be the system bug again, but thanks for the link!
Antony
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Sreenath B N wrote on Jul. 25, 2013 @ 19:12 GMT
Dear Jayakar,
Your treatment of the concept of ‘information’ is highly innovative and since it is based on string theory it is highly technical from the point of view of general audience. But I commend your effort to solve the problem of information paradox on the basis of string theory’s mathematics and you have treated it from different perspectives like Language and Numerical systems, Feynman diagrams and string-matter continuum scenario. In Particle scenario Vs String-matter continuum, you have clearly distinguished how the information is transferred in them; it is being discrete in particle scenario and in String-matter continuum the information transfer from source to the observer is by spiral rotations of string-segment. Here I am curious to know, spiral rotations represent which spiral, is it log spiral or Archimedean spiral or some other spiral, because according to my theory of QG the spiral described in QG field is log spiral. So can you, please, clarify this point to me? In fact in the previous fqxi essay contest (2012), my subject was QG. Ultimately, in the contest between It and Bit you have naturally sided with Bit as it is to be expected. Thank you for writing a highly articulate article and I appreciate the effort you have put behind it. For this I am going to rate your essay highly.
Best of luck,
Sreenath
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Author Jayakar Johnson Joseph wrote on Jul. 26, 2013 @ 05:23 GMT
Thank you dear Sreenath,
I have gone through your essay on 2012 again and refreshed my perceptions with your work on QG with Torsion tensor in log-spiral.
In string-matter continuum the spring constant on wave-front is inversely proportional to the Torsion tensor of the receding string and thus the gravitation between the observer and the source is a measurable function in space. Thus your work may be well integrated on this to quantize gravity in this scenario. Hence I seek long term collaborations with you for further developments on this.
With best wishes,
Jayakar
Sreenath B N replied on Jul. 27, 2013 @ 10:51 GMT
Dear Jayakar,
I want to have long time collaborations with you regarding this. When ever you are free try to contact me to develop this view further.
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Author Jayakar Johnson Joseph replied on Jul. 27, 2013 @ 14:17 GMT
Thank you dear Sreenath,
We will have discussions after some time, on this view.
With best regards,
Jayakar
Joe Fisher wrote on Jul. 28, 2013 @ 16:24 GMT
Dr. Jayakar,
I thought that your essay was exceptionally well written. I do hope that you do not think me impertinent. I am a crusty old realist and as I have carefully explained in my essay BITTERS, everything in the real Universe is unique, once.
As you know, each snowflake is unique, once, and that means that each real molecule of each real snowflake must be unique, once. The whole real Universe is unique, once.
Which brings me to the consideration of your essay’s graphics. They are not unique. They are computer generated perfect squares and perfect circle and perfect yellow lightning bolts and while they are pretty to look at, they are unusual, unrealistic, and unnecessary for explaining reality.
I wish you well in the competition,
Joe
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Author Jayakar Johnson Joseph replied on Jul. 29, 2013 @ 00:42 GMT
Thank you dear Joe,
You are right, only ‘continuum’ is in reality that is not quantifiable, while without quantisation ‘continuum’ is not descriptive and emerges with digitalisation in real numbers that are unique. As the universe is continuum it is realistic rather than probabilistic.
I would like to go through your essay and submit my perceptions soon.
With best regards,
Jayakar
Edwin Eugene Klingman wrote on Jul. 30, 2013 @ 23:34 GMT
Dear Jayakar,
As you indicated above, "In particle scenario, information is energy transfer; whereas in string-matter continuum of eternal universe, information is the transfer of string-matter segment with its rotational energy."
I believe that this particle view of information is that with which you expressed agreement on my essay page. I will study your essay to try to appreciate the alternate string-matter continuum perspective.
With best regards,
Edwin Eugene Klingman
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Author Jayakar Johnson Joseph replied on Jul. 31, 2013 @ 02:10 GMT
Thank you dear Edwin,
Jayakar
basudeba mishra wrote on Aug. 4, 2013 @ 01:54 GMT
Dear Sir,
We have replied to your queries in our thread. We are going through your essay and respond before rating time is over.
Regards,
basudeba
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Author Jayakar Johnson Joseph replied on Aug. 4, 2013 @ 07:54 GMT
Thank you dear Basudeba Mishra,
Expecting your comments on my essay.
With best regards
Jayakar
basudeba mishra wrote on Aug. 4, 2013 @ 15:38 GMT
Dear Sir,
We wish we could have devoted sometime earlier to your essay. It opens up many strands. One example is “language as information continuum”. Look at the structure of any language. For simplicity, we will take English, but the principle can be applied to any language including programming language.
A language consists of words or its equivalents in programming language...
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Dear Sir,
We wish we could have devoted sometime earlier to your essay. It opens up many strands. One example is “language as information continuum”. Look at the structure of any language. For simplicity, we will take English, but the principle can be applied to any language including programming language.
A language consists of words or its equivalents in programming language with proper rules for its combination and interpretation in different contexts. If we tale the word ‘pen’, when it is uttered, the sounds of the letters move away or cease to exist after reaching our eardrums – all in a sequence. Till the last letter is spoken, it could have led to any strand. Even after the last letter is spoken, it could mean variously a small enclosure in which sheep, pigs, cattle, or other domestic animals are kept, a female swan, a quill, a repair dock for submarines, etc, depending upon the context. How do we know the proper meaning? The answer is, the inertia generated by the first letter on hitting our eardrum (the wave generated by successive signals) combine with that of other letters to generate a sort of Doppler effect, which, we associate with some concept identified with some object. This leads to a superposition of the sound unified by the Doppler effect to form a word, the concept signified by the word, and the object signified by the word. This superposition is the continuum stored in our memory. We call it “sphota”.
The impulses from the various sensory apparatus are carried upwards in the dorsal column or in the anterio-lateral spinothalamic tract to the thalamus, which relays it to the cerebral cortex for its perception. At any moment, our sense organs are bombarded by a multitude of stimuli. But only one of them is given a clear channel to go up to the thalamus and then to the cerebral cortex at any instant, so that like photographic frames, we perceive one frame at an instant. With your Medical background, you are well aware of the sodium-potassium channel in our cells. Unlike the sensory apparatuses that are subject specific, this happens for all types of impulses. For this reason, when we speak, we do not breathe in or out. We have to stop in between for a breath. The agency that determines this subject neutral channel is called mind, which is powered by the heart and lungs. Thus, after the heart stops beating, mind stops its work and we cease to sense any external impulse. While mind facilitates the passage of impulse, the interpretation of the state of superposition in memory is done by the intellect. Hence even after the breath stops, the person may not be brain dead.
Let us take “numerical system is on discrete information”. Number is a property of all substances by which we differentiate between similars. If there are no similars, it is one. If there are similars, it is many. Depending upon the sequence of perceptions, many can be 2,3,4,…n. Infinity is like one – without similars. But unlike one where we clearly perceive the dimensions (perception of differentiation between the internal structural space and the external relational space), in the case of infinity, the dimensions are not fully perceptible. Thus, number system can elicit only 1 or 0 – on or off – yes-no information. The ‘on’s are coded (written in programming language) with 1 and the ‘off’s with 0. Only this way, it is discrete information.
Similarly, you are correct that ‘0’ denotes undetected matter rather than nonexistence. Zero here symbolizes spatio-temporal non-existence or nonexistence at here-now of something otherwise known. There are many types of nonexistence. There is prior nonexistence of an object before it is transformed from being to becoming (cause and effect). Thereafter, it exists and evolves independent of observation or otherwise. This gives rise to number sequence. There is temporary non-existence, which is related to its transformation in space or time independent of the observer. This gives rise to negative numbers through zero. There is death or decay including beta decay, which is the opposite of prior nonexistence. Annihilation of oppositely charged particles, such as electrons and positrons is another example. Then there is non-commuting nonexistence like position and momentum: a fixed position implies nonexistence of momentum with mobile coordinates and vice versa. Lastly, there is the absolute nonexistence, which means, it is impossible as per physical laws like the horns of a rabbit.
In our thread, while replying to your post we have disputed the string theory. Actually strings only entangle particles. Without the exchange forces between particles, the string has no existence. The rest is fiction. Regarding your triangular waveform expression, you can refer to the description of what is a photon in our essay.
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mbasudeba@gmail.com
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Author Jayakar Johnson Joseph replied on Aug. 6, 2013 @ 19:12 GMT
Dear Basudeba Mishra,
Nature of communication language is continuum whereas the computer language is a set of discrete functions. Numerals and figures are discrete representations. As per this paradigm sound waves also described as spiral propagation of string-segments, in that both longitudinal and transverse wave characteristics are expressional. The Doppler effects in this scenario is same as that in particle scenario and described in analogue with the transverse wave on particle wave duality, while the duality is resolved with the propagation of spiral eigen-rotational string-matter segment.
Tensor potential difference between the observer and source string-segments is causal for the transfer of eigen-rotational string from the source to the observer, while the density of this differential potential is much higher with in-vivo bio-chemical systems and exhibits variability with tissue differentiation, and this describes the existence of life and consciousness, in that lattice of discrete cause-effect cycles is representational for impels and memory.
Numerals are quantum to describe infinity. Photons are hypothetical, whereas photon string-segments are hypothetical representations for integration. Universe without dynamics is hypothetically one-dimensional string-matter continuum, while zero-dimension is not empirical. Though the dynamics of universe is descriptive, the causality of the beginning of dynamics is undefinable with human capabilities. Thus the universe is eternal.
With best regards
Jayakar
basudeba mishra replied on Aug. 7, 2013 @ 00:44 GMT
Dear Sir,
Nature of communication language appears continuum though actually it is a set of discrete functions. Any perception that is communicated as information has three distinct components:
1) It is about or concerning a physical object (matter), that is perceived as form.
2) It is expressed through a language (signal) that is perceived as sound.
3) The language...
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Dear Sir,
Nature of communication language appears continuum though actually it is a set of discrete functions. Any perception that is communicated as information has three distinct components:
1) It is about or concerning a physical object (matter), that is perceived as form.
2) It is expressed through a language (signal) that is perceived as sound.
3) The language conveys a universal or common concept (perception) about the object so that the receiver gets the same message as the sender.
These three are different because the object (matter) is perceived through electromagnetic radiation by our eyes that cannot hear. The language (sound, signal) is perceived (through sound waves or electromagnetic signals converted to sound waves) in our ears that cannot see. The concept signifying the object is perceived through our memory, which is in the cerebral cortex. The sounds of the alphabets are uttered in a discrete sequence. Subtle changes in the form are also discrete (the emitted radiation changes continuously). Yet, they get into a state of superposition in our memory, which ‘mixes’ and compares them. The resultant impression is the perception.
Here also the sense organs and mind function in binary style. The sense organs always reach out to the incoming impulse, whether sound, electromagnetic radiation, or smell, taste, touch. Over the years, views on the mechanism of perception of sound – how the ear perceives the tonality of sound and the frequency range of auditory perception - have changed. There is a reason why the human pinna is not asymmetrical and folded. Experiments by Hero Wit (Spectra of cochlear acoustic emissions – Kemp echos – Journal of Acoust. Soc. Am. 1981) showed the emission of a continual sound from healthy human ears in the range of 1 to 2 kHz. This implies that the ear sends out a reference wave and interacts with the incoming wave to produce an acoustic hologram. This is facilitated by the unique structure of the human pinna (Hugo Zuccarelli, New Scientist, 10th November 1983 p-438). Similarly, our eyes send out a reference wave to electromagnetic radiation emanating out of the object (and not the object which emits these radiation). The form we see is not the same as the object we touch and vice versa. Because when we touch, we cut down the radiation and touch the mass that emits it. The same goes for taste and smell.
As we have explained, at any moment, our sense organs are bombarded by a multitude of stimuli. But only one of them is given a clear channel at any instant to go up to the thalamus and then to the cerebral cortex, so that like photographic frames, we perceive one discrete frame at every instant, but due to the high speed of their reception, mix it up so that it appears as continuous. This happens due to an active transport system against concentration gradient with input of energy like the sodium-potassium pump, which moves the two ions in opposite directions across the plasma membrane through break down of Adenosine triphosphate (ATP). The concentrations of the two ions on both sides of the cell membrane are interdependent, suggesting that the same carrier transports both ions. Similarly, the same carrier transports the external stimuli in the opposite direction to the cerebral cortex. This carrier is the mind.
Regards,
basudeba
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Author Jayakar Johnson Joseph replied on Aug. 7, 2013 @ 08:45 GMT
Dear Basudeba Mishra,
Describing an object by language is in continuum with thinking, in that even the definition of definition itself is continuum.
Even plants have memory and not have cerebral cortex.
Defining a generic wave mechanics for both acoustic and EM waves is much imperative to resolve the wave particle duality.
In particle scenario touch, taste and smell involves transfer of energy by ionic exchange and not with radiation, whereas in this paradigm it is expressional as transfer of string-matter segment with energy.
Chemistry is incomplete and fails to describe many of the
biophysical phenomena that includes mechanism of aging, etiogenicity of malignancy, etc.. and thus the physical causality that effects chemistry to be investigated, that indicates the imperativeness of restructuring atomic analogy. Thereby this paradigm got evolved and needs adaptations with the mainstream physics, starting from the axiom: zero to one dimension; in that the constructs of the atom to be three-dimensional.
With best regards
Jayakar
eAmazigh M. HANNOU wrote on Aug. 5, 2013 @ 12:05 GMT
Dear Jayakar Johnson Joseph,
Yes, (e) is a mystery.
(e) for eEnergy, for a new science in coming : a binary Science, dual Science, fundamental Science.
I have discovered the functionning of eUniverse : eDuality is in all things, like motion.
And all things arising, by couple, pair.
« simple, complex », « wave, particle », « space, time », « matter, antimatter », « electicity, magnetism », « Weak force , Strong force », « gravity, expansion of space », and so on...
Duality is in all cultures (Egyptians, Greecs, Indians, Chineses, ...) and in each one of us, but never explained and equaled like in China.
The « Yin, Yang » duality is full of truth, but this must be completed and reinterpreted, like our Science.
eDuality is present in physics, mathematics, philosophy, economics, biology, chemistry, religion, our thinking, in computers and mechanical machinery, linguistics, and so on...
Each one of us speaks with eDuality.
eDuality is the same everywhere.
There is one kind of eDuality when this concept is clear known.
eUniverse is very simple at the begining, very complex after.
This eDuality, these opposites, these contraries, are the 0 and 1 of information.
It takes a book to explain all these concepts : eEnergy, eInfo, eReality, eDuality, and so on...
Advice : dont think matter, but eEnergy and eInfo.
Good luck,
Amazigh H.
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Manuel S Morales wrote on Aug. 5, 2013 @ 18:20 GMT
Jayakar,
I found your approach to the topic at hand fascinating and would like to rate your essay highly. However, before I do may I run some questions by you via email? Please let me know at: msm@physicsofdestiny.com
I look forward to hearing from you.
Regards,
Manuel
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basudeba mishra wrote on Aug. 6, 2013 @ 02:58 GMT
Dear Sir,
We have replied to your post in our thread.
Regards,
basudeba
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basudeba mishra replied on Aug. 8, 2013 @ 11:30 GMT
Dear Sir,
Nature of communication language appears continuum though actually it is a set of discrete functions. Any perception that is communicated as information has three distinct components:
1) It is about or concerning a physical object (matter), that is perceived as form.
2) It is expressed through a language (signal) that is perceived as sound.
3) The language...
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Dear Sir,
Nature of communication language appears continuum though actually it is a set of discrete functions. Any perception that is communicated as information has three distinct components:
1) It is about or concerning a physical object (matter), that is perceived as form.
2) It is expressed through a language (signal) that is perceived as sound.
3) The language conveys a universal or common concept (perception) about the object so that the receiver gets the same message as the sender.
These three are different because the object (matter) is perceived through electromagnetic radiation by our eyes that cannot hear. The language (sound, signal) is perceived (through sound waves or electromagnetic signals converted to sound waves) in our ears that cannot see. The concept signifying the object is perceived through our memory, which is in the cerebral cortex. The sounds of the alphabets are uttered in a discrete sequence. Subtle changes in the form are also discrete (the emitted radiation changes continuously). Yet, they get into a state of superposition in our memory, which ‘mixes’ and compares them. The resultant impression is the perception.
Here also the sense organs and mind function in binary style. The sense organs always reach out to the incoming impulse, whether sound, electromagnetic radiation, or smell, taste, touch. Over the years, views on the mechanism of perception of sound – how the ear perceives the tonality of sound and the frequency range of auditory perception - have changed. There is a reason why the human pinna is not asymmetrical and folded. Experiments by Hero Wit (Spectra of cochlear acoustic emissions – Kemp echos – Journal of Acoust. Soc. Am. 1981) showed the emission of a continual sound from healthy human ears in the range of 1 to 2 kHz. This implies that the ear sends out a reference wave and interacts with the incoming wave to produce an acoustic hologram. This is facilitated by the unique structure of the human pinna (Hugo Zuccarelli, New Scientist, 10th November 1983 p-438). Similarly, our eyes send out a reference wave to electromagnetic radiation emanating out of the object (and not the object which emits these radiation). The form we see is not the same as the object we touch and vice versa. Because when we touch, we cut down the radiation and touch the mass that emits it. The same goes for taste and smell.
As we have explained, at any moment, our sense organs are bombarded by a multitude of stimuli. But only one of them is given a clear channel at any instant to go up to the thalamus and then to the cerebral cortex, so that like photographic frames, we perceive one discrete frame at every instant, but due to the high speed of their reception, mix it up so that it appears as continuous. This happens due to an active transport system against concentration gradient with input of energy like the sodium-potassium pump, which moves the two ions in opposite directions across the plasma membrane through break down of Adenosine triphosphate (ATP). The concentrations of the two ions on both sides of the cell membrane are interdependent, suggesting that the same carrier transports both ions. Similarly, the same carrier transports the external stimuli in the opposite direction to the cerebral cortex. This carrier is the mind.
Regards,
basudeba
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Cristinel Stoica wrote on Aug. 7, 2013 @ 07:42 GMT
Paul Borrill wrote on Aug. 7, 2013 @ 20:32 GMT
Dear Jayakar,
I have now finished reviewing all 180 essays for the contest and appreciate your contribution to this competition.
I have been thoroughly impressed at the breadth, depth and quality of the ideas represented in this contest. In true academic spirit, if you have not yet reviewed my essay, I invite you to do so and leave your comments.
You can find the latest version of my essay here:
http://fqxi.org/data/forum-attachments/Borrill-TimeOne-
V1.1a.pdf
(sorry if the fqxi web site splits this url up, I haven’t figured out a way to not make it do that).
May the best essays win!
Kind regards,
Paul Borrill
paul at borrill dot com
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Héctor Daniel Gianni wrote on Aug. 10, 2013 @ 20:14 GMT
Dear Jayakar Johnson Joseph:
I am an old physician and I don’t know nothing of mathematics and almost nothing of physics. maybe you would be interested in my essay over a subject which after the common people, physic discipline is the one that uses more than any other, the so called “time”.
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Dear Jayakar Johnson Joseph:
I am an old physician and I don’t know nothing of mathematics and almost nothing of physics. maybe you would be interested in my essay over a subject which after the common people, physic discipline is the one that uses more than any other, the so called “time”.
I am sending you a practical summary, so you can easy decide if you read or not my essay “The deep nature of reality”.
I am convince you would be interested in reading it. ( most people don’t understand it, and is not just because of my bad English).
Hawking in “A brief history of time” where he said , “Which is the nature of time?” yes he don’t know what time is, and also continue saying…………Some day this answer could seem to us “obvious”, as much than that the earth rotate around the sun…..” In fact the answer is “obvious”, but how he could say that, if he didn’t know what’s time? In fact he is predicting that is going to be an answer, and that this one will be “obvious”, I think that with this adjective, he is implying: simple and easy to understand. Maybe he felt it and couldn’t explain it with words. We have anthropologic proves that man measure “time” since more than 30.000 years ago, much, much later came science, mathematics and physics that learn to measure “time” from primitive men, adopted the idea and the systems of measurement, but also acquired the incognita of the experimental “time” meaning. Out of common use physics is the science that needs and use more the measurement of what everybody calls “time” and the discipline came to believe it as their own. I always said that to understand the “time” experimental meaning there is not need to know mathematics or physics, as the “time” creators and users didn’t. Instead of my opinion I would give Einstein’s “Ideas and Opinions” pg. 354 “Space, time, and event, are free creations of human intelligence, tools of thought” he use to call them pre-scientific concepts from which mankind forgot its meanings, he never wrote a whole page about “time” he also use to evade the use of the word, in general relativity when he refer how gravitational force and speed affect “time”, he does not use the word “time” instead he would say, speed and gravitational force slows clock movement or “motion”, instead of saying that slows “time”. FQXi member Andreas Albrecht said that. When asked the question, "What is time?", Einstein gave a pragmatic response: "Time," he said, "is what clocks measure and nothing more." He knew that “time” was a man creation, but he didn’t know what man is measuring with the clock.
I insist, that for “measuring motion” we should always and only use a unique: “constant” or “uniform” “motion” to measure “no constant motions” “which integrates and form part of every change and transformation in every physical thing. Why? because is the only kind of “motion” whose characteristics allow it, to be divided in equal parts as Egyptians and Sumerians did it, giving born to “motion fractions”, which I call “motion units” as hours, minutes and seconds. “Motion” which is the real thing, was always hide behind time, and covert by its shadow, it was hide in front everybody eyes, during at least two millenniums at hand of almost everybody. Which is the difference in physics between using the so-called time or using “motion”?, time just has been used to measure the “duration” of different phenomena, why only for that? Because it was impossible for physicists to relate a mysterious time with the rest of the physical elements of known characteristics, without knowing what time is and which its physical characteristics were. On the other hand “motion” is not something mysterious, it is a quality or physical property of all things, and can be related with all of them, this is a huge difference especially for theoretical physics I believe. I as a physician with this find I was able to do quite a few things. I imagine a physicist with this can make marvelous things.
With my best whishes
Héctor
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Author Jayakar Johnson Joseph wrote on Aug. 11, 2013 @ 09:15 GMT
Dear Héctor,
Time emerges with motion though it is not physical, yet integral with dynamics including thermodynamics. This indicates the emergence of discrete sub-time for discrete systems in dynamics with reference to the flow of time of the universe, in that the reference time is external to systems.
In particle scenario, the history of time begins with the origin of universe and it is linear, whereas in this paradigm time is cyclic, as the dynamics of eigen-rotational strings, is cyclic, and thus cyclic-time emerges with eigen-rotations.
This indicates the imperativeness to consider a holarchy of referential cyclic-time that emerges on organising clusters of string-matter segments of the universe in holarchy, in that there is change of eigen-rotational phase of a holon of cluster-matters of string-segment in time, while the period of eigen-rotational cycle of a holon is finite.
In particle scenario, information is the transfer of energy in time; whereas in this paradigm it is the transfer eigen-rotational matter with energy.
With these assumptions, I shall go through your essay in detail and submit my perceptions at your page soon, in that I would like to discuss the relativity of phycology with cyclic-time.
Thanking you.
With best regards
Jayakar
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Author Jayakar Johnson Joseph replied on Aug. 11, 2013 @ 15:07 GMT
There is a defect in constructing the sentence in the previous post.
Kindly replace:
‘in that there is change of eigen-rotational phase of a holon of cluster-matters of string-segment in time, while the period of eigen-rotational cycle of a holon is finite.’
with,
‘in that each holon of a cluster differ in their eigen-rotational phase, while the period of eigen-rotation is finite. Thus linear flow of referential cyclic-times is expressional with a top-to-bottom dynamics in the universe.’
Jayakar
Author Jayakar Johnson Joseph wrote on Aug. 29, 2013 @ 11:09 GMT
On continuation with this work, an experimentation project is intended to get proposed at CERN to determine that the pi masons exists in sequence in correspondence with the string-matter continuum described in this paradigm. Axiom on this is been attached herewith to invite discussions for improving further.
With best regards
Jayakar
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Author Jayakar Johnson Joseph wrote on Aug. 29, 2013 @ 11:22 GMT
On continuation with this work, an experimentation project is intended to get proposed at CERN to determine that the pi mesons exists in sequence in correspondence with the string-matter continuum described in this paradigm. Axiom on this is been attached herewith to invite discussions for improving further.
With best regards
Jayakar
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