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CATEGORY: It From Bit or Bit From It? Essay Contest (2013) [back]
TOPIC: It From Bit and The Unsmooth Reality by Joachim J. Wlodarz [refresh]
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Author Joachim J. Wlodarz wrote on Jul. 2, 2013 @ 16:12 GMT
Essay Abstract

In this short essay it is argued that the "It from Bit" idea is plausible when assuming "generalized bits", resulting from the Kolmogorov superposition theorem, as universal building blocks.

Author Bio

The Author got his PhD in 1991 from the University of Silesia, Poland. He is appointed since 2003 as Senior Lecturer at the Department of Theoretical Chemistry the same Alma Mater, and works also closely with the Computer Science Group at the Faculty of Mathematics, Physics and Chemistry.

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Satyavarapu Naga Parameswara Gupta wrote on Jul. 3, 2013 @ 12:53 GMT
Dear Wlodarz,

Thank you for the nice crisp short essay. You concluded generalised 'Bits' are the final building blocks nicely. But all these 'bits' are staying in a computer or Human mind, how they create matter from nothing?

and...

I am requesting you to go through my essay also. And I take this opportunity to say, to come to reality and base your arguments on experimental...

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Author Joachim J. Wlodarz replied on Jul. 4, 2013 @ 15:13 GMT
Dear Satyavarapu Naga Parameswara Gupta,

Thank you very much for reading and commenting on my essay. Indeed, the question " where the bits come from " seems to be a strong argument against the "It from Bit" idea. But at the lowest level, the bits may be all that we have, e.g., from experiment. In a sense, the bits are coming from the Unknown, so to say (cf. also my essay submitted to the FQXi 2011 contest here , although I should rather advertise my present essay in this thread :-)

Best Regards,

-Joachim.

P.S. I'll certainly read your essay, I've just downloaded it

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Satyavarapu Naga Parameswara Gupta replied on Jul. 8, 2013 @ 23:41 GMT
Resp sir,

Thank you for very nice and critical post on my essay. Hope my answer will satisfy your query. Please ask any further questions there.

Best

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Hoang cao Hai wrote on Jul. 3, 2013 @ 16:59 GMT
Dear Joachim

There are many authors who share your conclusions, so the problem still remaining is: if it is from the bit, where bit come from?

And to change the atmosphere "abstract" of the competition and to demonstrate for the real preeminent possibility of the Absolute theory as well as to clarify the issues I mentioned in the essay and to avoid duplicate questions after receiving...

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Author Joachim J. Wlodarz replied on Jul. 4, 2013 @ 16:20 GMT
Dear Hải.Caohoàng,

Thank you very much for commenting on my essay. I personally believe that at the lowest layer it would be always something that is unknown, and it is good so.

After the invention of an Absolute Theory, no new information could be gathered,

because everything would be known, each particle, each event. Therefore, no Bit's from It's at that point.

Best Regards,

-Joachim.

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James Lee Hoover wrote on Jul. 3, 2013 @ 20:01 GMT
Joachim,

If given the time and the wits to evaluate over 120 more entries, I have a month to try. My seemingly whimsical title, “It’s good to be the king,” is serious about our subject.

Jim

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Author Joachim J. Wlodarz replied on Jul. 4, 2013 @ 16:44 GMT
Hi Jim,

Indeed, reading all these essays is a Herculean task, but rewarding. It's like looking on something through somebody's eyes...

Best Regards,

-Joachim.

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Vladimir Rogozhin wrote on Jul. 9, 2013 @ 08:00 GMT
Hello Joachim,

Very interesting, imaginative title essay and interesting ideas. They are close to me in spirit and image. Gorgeous eidoses: "The Unsmooth Reality" and "generalized bits"! Please look at my essay.

I wish you every success, Vladimir

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Sreenath B N wrote on Jul. 14, 2013 @ 08:46 GMT
Dear Joachim,

I have down loaded your essay and soon post my comments on it. Meanwhile, please, go through my essay and post your comments.

Regards and good luck in the contest,

Sreenath BN.

http://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/1827

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Joe Fisher wrote on Jul. 21, 2013 @ 16:21 GMT
Dr. Wlodarz,

I found your concise essay focused on one point intriguing. As a decrepit old realist though, I did not quite understand this sentence: “With this “inherent unsmoothness” it is therefore enough room left for all the weird behavior observed in Nature.”

I have emphasized the importance of unique, once, in the real Universe in my essay BITTERS. Perhaps if Wheeler had only asked:

Is the real Universe simple? Yes.

Is the abstract universe simple? No

Is unique, once simple? Yes

Is the Kolmogorov superposition theorem simple? No.

I do wish you well in the contest,

Joe

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Akinbo Ojo wrote on Jul. 23, 2013 @ 18:17 GMT
Dear Joachim,

I know you may be so busy to read all essays including mine. It will be enough to answer whether you consider existence/non-existence a binary choice?, in the meaning expressed in the Wheeler quote in your essay, which by the way was very nice.

Best regards,

Akinbo

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Antony Ryan wrote on Jul. 25, 2013 @ 02:25 GMT
Dear Joachim,

I like the idea of Generalised Bits. You explain the It from Bit - Bit from It problem well with entanglement and I think it reaches out well to your audience.

Indeed, it's a good point that experiment always yields Bits. I think you deserve a higher score - so hope my rating helps.

I hope you get a chance to look at my essay around simplexes, entropy and Fibonacci sequence; although different from yours I don't think it is at odds in any way, so hopefully it will be of some interest.

Best wishes,

Antony

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Paul Borrill wrote on Jul. 29, 2013 @ 21:39 GMT
Joachim, a nice self-contained essay. Some interesting ideas, tying together Wheeler, Nyquist, Shannon and Kolmogorov.

My favorite paragraph:

“According to the Nyquist-Shannon theorem [5, 6], a fundamental result in information theory, continuous information may be converted into an equivalent discrete information by sampling, provided that the sampling rate exceeds the doubled bandlimit frequency. Such an approach to physical fields and also to the spacetime itself has been suggested awhile ago by Kempf [7, 8].”

You reminded me that if a variable is being “sampled” at a rate much lower than the underlying rate of change, then the result of the measurement will appear random. I create an analogy to a “quantum stroboscope” in my essay where I note that reality is sampled as brief flashes with long periods of darkness in between. I.e. Entangled systems are dark.

This is discussed further in my paper: http://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/1897

The best of luck to you in the competition.

Kind regards, Paul

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john stephan selye wrote on Aug. 2, 2013 @ 01:58 GMT
Having read so many insightful essays, I am probably not the only one to find that my views have crystallized, and that I can now move forward with growing confidence. I cannot exactly say who in the course of the competition was most inspiring - probably it was the continuous back and forth between so many of us. In this case, we should all be grateful to each other.

If I may, I'd like to...

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eAmazigh M. HANNOU wrote on Aug. 4, 2013 @ 18:52 GMT
Dear Joachim,

We are at the end of this essay contest.

In conclusion, at the question to know if Information is more fundamental than Matter, there is a good reason to answer that Matter is made of an amazing mixture of eInfo and eEnergy, at the same time.

Matter is thus eInfo made with eEnergy rather than answer it is made with eEnergy and eInfo ; because eInfo is eEnergy, and the one does not go without the other one.

eEnergy and eInfo are the two basic Principles of the eUniverse. Nothing can exist if it is not eEnergy, and any object is eInfo, and therefore eEnergy.

And consequently our eReality is eInfo made with eEnergy. And the final verdict is : eReality is virtual, and virtuality is our fundamental eReality.

Good luck to the winners,

And see you soon, with good news on this topic, and the Theory of Everything.

Amazigh H.

I rated your essay.

Please visit My essay.

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Héctor Daniel Gianni wrote on Aug. 4, 2013 @ 20:11 GMT
Dear Joachim J. Wlodarz:

I am an old physician and I don’t know nothing of mathematics and almost nothing of physics. maybe you would be interested in my essay over a subject which after the common people, physic discipline is the one that uses more than any other, the so called “time”.

I am...

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Cristinel Stoica wrote on Aug. 7, 2013 @ 07:44 GMT
Hi, votes are vanishing again.

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Michael Helland wrote on Aug. 7, 2013 @ 16:19 GMT
Intersting approach.

I've rated it a ten

http://www.fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/1616

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