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TOPIC: Physicalism Entails Panpsychism. by Rikki M. Westerschulte [refresh]

Author Rikki M. Westerschulte wrote on Aug. 31, 2012 @ 12:06 GMT
Essay Abstract

The fundamental assumption we should examine is this: That awareness – the subjective experience occurring in alert human minds – is not a basic feature of matter that must be explained by a complete theory of physics. Physics attempts to understand the world around us, the world in which we find ourselves, and its phenomena. A skeptical position requires us to question all the sacred cows – to apply rational thought and the scientific method to all physical phenomena. We can ask, “How does the classical world emerge from the quantum world underlying it?” Brains are in the classical world. Awareness clearly is intimately related to and dependent on brains. Awareness is an undeniable, given, basic, phenomenon that arises in the classical world from the quantum mechanical world.

Author Bio

Rikki is a citizen scientist and graduate of UC Berkeley in Biochemcial Genetics, working in the field of trusted computing. She lives and works in Santa Cruz, CA.

John Merryman wrote on Sep. 2, 2012 @ 18:10 GMT
Rikki,

Love your essay. If I may offer up a few possible answers, I would start with the last; What is our purpose on earth? Looking at it in simple biological fractals, as the earth evolves into ever more of a singular organism, it develops a central nervous system, the medium of which appears to be humanity. Given that we are currently top predators in a collapsing ecosystem, getting...

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Constantinos Ragazas wrote on Sep. 5, 2012 @ 17:48 GMT
Hello Rikki,

I enjoyed reading your essay. I agree with you. The 'mindless universe' of physics cannot sensibly explain the world. And leads us instead deeper into a rabbit's hole of metaphysical beliefs. More phantasmagorical than anything from the past. In my essay, “The Metaphysics of Physics”, I write

“... if the view leads to physical explanations [based on mathematics] which are counter-intuitive and defy common sense, or become too abstract and too removed from life and not supported by life, than we must not confuse mathematical deductions with physical realism. Rather, we should change our view!”

And also,

“The failure of Modern Physics is in not providing us with a 'physical view' that makes sense”.

You write,

“The possibility fluctuations show up as waves when you want to see that, or particles when you look for that. But it really is neither. What is it? No one has any idea. “

You will find my answer to just this question in my essay! Please read, comment and rate it!

Best wishes,

Constantinos

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Ted Erikson wrote on Sep. 7, 2012 @ 15:44 GMT
Nice overview of physics absence of a definition for the awareness that all things must have..from photons to electrons to protons to atoms to molecules to bacteria to elephants..

To satisfy the rigor of physics, tho, we need a model that exhibits the probable property(s) of panpsychism and emergentism..

My essay proposes such: To Seek Unknown Shores

http://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/1409

Maybe you might read, comment, and rate it.. ?

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Lorraine Ford wrote on Sep. 15, 2012 @ 13:35 GMT
Hi Rikki,

Well said. I enjoyed your essay. I agree that consciousness is "the elephant in the room", and I think that pan-psychism is the only possible logical explanation for subjective experience.

In my essay "The Universe is not like a Computer" I also connect information with subjective experience.

Lorraine

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Dean L Waters wrote on Sep. 17, 2012 @ 22:01 GMT
Rikki,

You definitely strike to the heart of questions I was too timid to address head on.

I graduated college thinking I wanted to study Artificial Intelligence, but in the 80's it seemed to be mostly addressing how to make fingers and toes or making better 'logical systems' for playing chess and that AI failed to address anything close to what it means to be human or conscious. ...

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Hoang cao Hai wrote on Sep. 27, 2012 @ 02:46 GMT
Dear Rikki M. Westerschulte

I very like the ask of you was put out.

My absolute theory be able to answer all your questions, but perhaps not in accordance with the scale of this essay.

I finished the book manuscript "That's us" with specific and detailed explanations to your questions.

Hopefully will find get way to published soon.

So you can be sure that: it is the task of theoretical physics and completely lies in the ability of theoretical physics.

Hải.Caohoàng of THE INCORRECT ASSUMPTIONS AND A CORRECT THEORY

August 23, 2012 - 11:51 GMT on this essay contest.

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Sergey G Fedosin wrote on Oct. 4, 2012 @ 05:39 GMT
If you do not understand why your rating dropped down. As I found ratings in the contest are calculated in the next way. Suppose your rating is
$R_1$
and
$N_1$
was the quantity of people which gave you ratings. Then you have
$S_1=R_1 N_1$
of points. After it anyone give you
$dS$
of points so you have
$S_2=S_1+ dS$
of points and
$N_2=N_1+1$
is the common quantity of the people which gave you ratings. At the same time you will have
$S_2=R_2 N_2$
of points. From here, if you want to be R2 > R1 there must be:
$S_2/ N_2>S_1/ N_1$
or
$(S_1+ dS) / (N_1+1) >S_1/ N_1$
or
$dS >S_1/ N_1 =R_1$
In other words if you want to increase rating of anyone you must give him more points
$dS$
then the participant`s rating
$R_1$
was at the moment you rated him. From here it is seen that in the contest are special rules for ratings. And from here there are misunderstanding of some participants what is happened with their ratings. Moreover since community ratings are hided some participants do not sure how increase ratings of others and gives them maximum 10 points. But in the case the scale from 1 to 10 of points do not work, and some essays are overestimated and some essays are drop down. In my opinion it is a bad problem with this Contest rating process. I hope the FQXI community will change the rating process.

Sergey Fedosin

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Janko Kokosar wrote on Oct. 4, 2012 @ 11:10 GMT
Dear Rikki,

In your essay you intuitively try to confirm, that awareness is something basic. Maybe the deepest your sentence is:

"How could it be that this self, is an effect of a kergazilion vibrations in a googlplex of universes of quirky quanta? Then why I feel so real?"

Because, my answer on this is, that the quantum randomness is a primitive consciousness, in the opposite case such confusion cannot give consciousness.

In my essay, section 7, you will see that I agree with and that I have one model for consciousness.

I claim that consciousness is in heart of physics. I even claim, that research money for consciosness will give more results than for CERN.

Best regards, Janko Kokosar

P.S. grammar correction: ITT -> IIT

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Janko Kokosar replied on Oct. 4, 2012 @ 11:12 GMT
Correction: my essay is this.

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Georgina Parry wrote on Oct. 5, 2012 @ 10:37 GMT
Dear Rikki M. Westerschulte,

so glad I have read your marvellous essay. The title had put me off reading it sooner. I agree that awareness has to be included. I think you are correct to identify a role for information.I have a place for both within my explanatory framework. I like the why not ending very much, an invitation to an exciting adventure. I think it is a direction that has been some what neglected but the role of information is being discussed in a number of essays. Very readable, positive and well set out. I would like to spend more time with it to see what I have missed. Good luck, kind regards Georgina

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