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TOPIC: The Physical Meaning of the de Broglie Wavelength and the Heisenberg Uncertainty Relation by Nikolay Saynyuk [refresh]

Author Nikolay Saynyuk wrote on Aug. 21, 2012 @ 14:29 GMT
Essay Abstract

The essay attempts to determine the physical meaning of the de Broglie wavelength and the Heisenberg uncertainty relation based on the assumption that elementary particles may have a dense core with a diameter equal to the Compton wavelength of these particles. The essay also pointed out the basic principles of what may be waived in fundamental physics, if this assumption is confirmed experimentally.

Author Bio

Specialty - Quantum Electronics. The main interest in the physics associated with the study of the possible application of the mathematical formalism of quantum mechanics to gravity.

Edwin Eugene Klingman wrote on Aug. 21, 2012 @ 22:33 GMT
Dear Nikolay Saynyuk,

You have many new ideas and have presented them very well. I agree with you on the significance of Compton wavelength and de Broglie wavelength and finite size of particles, although my model is somewhat different from yours. My model does assume a gravitational component of the particle wave, specifically related to gravito-magnetism. I invite you to read my essay, The Nature of the Wave Function.

Your treatment of planetary orbits as Schrodinger solutions was quite a surprise, and also your harmonic oscillator model of particle collisions converting kinetic and potential energy with subsequent cascading decays.

There is a lot to consider in your essay and some apparently novel ideas. Thanks for submitting your essay and good luck in the contest.

Edwin Eugene Klingman

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Author Nikolay Saynyuk replied on Sep. 19, 2012 @ 19:54 GMT
Dear Edwin, I have read your essay. The work is very interesting. But it takes time to understand it. Happy convergence of views that the wave function represents a real physical wave. You've looked at the theoretical level. I have this follows from the assumption that the particles may have a diameter equal to the Compton wavelength. This is only a hypothesis. It requires experimental verification. I wish you good luck in the contest.

P.S. Sorry, I know English badly.

John A. Macken wrote on Aug. 26, 2012 @ 23:51 GMT
Nikolai,

I agree with many of the points of your essay. I also believe that fundamental particles are not points but waves with quantized angular momentum and a dimension related to the Compton wavelength. I have actually been working on a similar idea for about 10 years. This work still is not complete, but a book manuscript is available online here. When this wave based model of particles is analyzed, it actually generates gravity from first principles (no analogy is made to acceleration). The amazing thing is that this model also makes predictions yielding a previously unknown relationship between the gravitational and electrostatic force. I propose that this is a first step towards unifying these two forces. This relationship between gravity and the electrostatic force is the subject of my essay (Insights into the Unification of Forces). I think that you will find it very interesting since it supports many of the points in your essay. If you are interested, I would like to correspond with you further on this subject. You will find my email address on the link cited above.

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George wrote on Aug. 27, 2012 @ 05:43 GMT
Dear Nikolay

I welcome your article and I appreciate it. In mine view, the quarks makes great honor to M-r James Joyse and not to modern physics (I am asking myself - why proton should be consist from 3 quarks only and not 6 half-quarks, 12 pieces 1/4 etc. All will be seen in the same, as nobody demands to put these in the dish and show to us, I mean to prove its reality...!)

I suggest to look topics 1430, hoping you can find there many confirmations to yours viewpoint.

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Sergey G Fedosin wrote on Aug. 27, 2012 @ 19:09 GMT
Nicolay

Your equation 1 is the same as equality of rest energy of particle and energy of the wave inside the particle with the energy as for photon: m c2 = h c / lambda . Then your deducing of de Broglie wavelength just similar to mine. Wave-particle duality is a consequence of internal standing electromagnetic waves in particles. When we recount with the help of Lorentz...

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Costantinos Ragazas replied on Aug. 29, 2012 @ 04:01 GMT
Hello Nikolay,

You may be interested to look at my derivation of the de Broglie wavelength and frequency found at End Note ii) of my essay, “The Metaphysics of Physics”. This derivation gives a whole new physical meaning to the de Broglie wavelength and frequency. And it further allows these to be any real number, positive or negative. Something that is rather hard to understand under the current understanding.

Best wishes!

Constantinos

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Sergey G Fedosin wrote on Oct. 2, 2012 @ 11:15 GMT
After studying about 250 essays in this contest, I realize now, how can I assess the level of each submitted work. Accordingly, I rated some essays, including yours.

Cood luck.

Sergey Fedosin

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Sergey G Fedosin wrote on Oct. 4, 2012 @ 06:43 GMT
If you do not understand why your rating dropped down. As I found ratings in the contest are calculated in the next way. Suppose your rating is
$R_1$
and
$N_1$
was the quantity of people which gave you ratings. Then you have
$S_1=R_1 N_1$
of points. After it anyone give you
$dS$
of points so you have
$S_2=S_1+ dS$
of points and
$N_2=N_1+1$
is the common quantity of the people which gave you ratings. At the same time you will have
$S_2=R_2 N_2$
of points. From here, if you want to be R2 > R1 there must be:
$S_2/ N_2>S_1/ N_1$
or
$(S_1+ dS) / (N_1+1) >S_1/ N_1$
or
$dS >S_1/ N_1 =R_1$
In other words if you want to increase rating of anyone you must give him more points
$dS$
then the participant`s rating
$R_1$
was at the moment you rated him. From here it is seen that in the contest are special rules for ratings. And from here there are misunderstanding of some participants what is happened with their ratings. Moreover since community ratings are hided some participants do not sure how increase ratings of others and gives them maximum 10 points. But in the case the scale from 1 to 10 of points do not work, and some essays are overestimated and some essays are drop down. In my opinion it is a bad problem with this Contest rating process. I hope the FQXI community will change the rating process.

Sergey Fedosin

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