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TOPIC: Genesis: The Origin of Quarks, From the Number Alpha to the Materiality of the Universe by Ugo Fabbri [refresh]

In 1623 Galileo Galilei expressed his conviction that the universe was governed by a mathematical order, written in a language whose characters were “triangles, circles and other geometrical figures”: without such instruments it would be impossible to understand the meaning of cosmic evolution, and one would risk being lost in a dark maze [1]. The holistic theory of limits takes up that argument, and proves that Galileo’s intuitive perception (underestimated for four centuries) contains all the information governing the origin of matter and the interaction of gravity therewith, on whatever scale of magnitude. The basic assumption of present scientific knowledge, in fact, comprises the erroneous belief that the sexagesimal system of measurement (which divides the circumference of the circle into 360 degrees) is a mere convention, extraneous to the laws of nature, whereas, on the contrary, it can be shown that this system is correlated with the universal geometrical order described by the Golden Section. In 1913 the scientific community attempted to extend the validity of the Bohr model to all the elements of the Periodic Table, hoping to draw information about the origin of matter, but the attempt failed: the holistic theory of limits, restating Galileo’s perception (now applied to the Bohr atom), reconstructs the matrix of matter within which cosmic evolution begins to take shape. This matrix is a virtual quantum configuration of energy containment (of ideally spherical symmetry), capable of drawing radial energy from the cosmos and of converting it into the corresponding mass.

Ugo Fabbri is an independent researcher, accredited as such in the proceedings of the XCIIth Congress of the Italian Physical Society, Turin 2006, in which an article of his was published. Going against the trend, he has conducted his studies in full freedom without being influenced by any protocol. The results thus obtained prove that “physical reality is the product of its limitations”: what seems a banal enough statement in fact represents a scientific evolution, for all conversions between equivalent energy types (E = E’) that govern cosmic evolution are conditioned by the physical-numerical limits that confer identities.

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Excellent! Your approach has details overlooked, but seem very relevant to,in an article by my partner who just submitted an essay titled "To Seek Unknown Shores". When it becomes available in ~5 days I hope you 2 get together. He has much more to say, but 12 page limit hinders his approach.

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Ugo,

Interesting statement, "In the new world view, the universe is seen as a dynamic web of interrelated events. None of the properties of any part of this web is fundamental; they all follow from the properties of the other parts, and the overall consistency of their mutual interrelations determines the structure of the entire web."

Please read the IEEE paper referenced in topic 1294, it provides a mathematical-geometric structure wherein the sizes of all the elements that define the structure are mutually self defining, and one of the related values is the mathematical value for the speed of light.

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Interesting statement, "In the new world view, the universe is seen as a dynamic web of interrelated events. None of the properties of any part of this web is fundamental; they all follow from the properties of the other parts, and the overall consistency of their mutual interrelations determines the structure of the entire web."

Please read the IEEE paper referenced in topic 1294, it provides a mathematical-geometric structure wherein the sizes of all the elements that define the structure are mutually self defining, and one of the related values is the mathematical value for the speed of light.

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Ugo,

IEEE no longer allows authors to post the published version anywhere. I have provided a link to the postprint.

Methodology

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IEEE no longer allows authors to post the published version anywhere. I have provided a link to the postprint.

Methodology

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The research method that you expound (correlation between numerical constants and physical constants) is perfectly functional regarding the holistic theory (see The Origin of Quarks, From the Number Alpha to the Materiality of the Universe) and so I can only wish your theory every success, even if it seems rather difficult to overcome old prejudices that hinder the development of science. Gabriele D'Annunzio (the Italian poet and hero of the First World War) always urged others to "dare the undareable" (Memento audere sempre: Always remember to dare).

Best wishes

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Ugo,

Thanks for reminding me of the reply above by using my topic, 1294. I keep a list of topics I have made comments to but the list is getting longer and I fail to revisit them often enough. I too have resorted to posting comments, when appropriate, to an authors topic which were made on another topic.

The significant resultant of the triangle pair construct is the single value...

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Thanks for reminding me of the reply above by using my topic, 1294. I keep a list of topics I have made comments to but the list is getting longer and I fail to revisit them often enough. I too have resorted to posting comments, when appropriate, to an authors topic which were made on another topic.

The significant resultant of the triangle pair construct is the single value...

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As a result of a favourable development of mathematical analysis, occurring after the submission of my paper "Genesis: The Origin of Quarks, From the Number Alpha to the Materiality of the Universe", it would be fitting to rework the text somewhat.

In the literature it is argued that the sexagesimal system (used in trigonometric functions) is "conventional", and it is thus wrongly deduced that it cannot regulate cosmic evolution. In contrast, the holistic theory states that the role played by this system (although underestimated) is particularly important, as the origin of all the heavenly bodies, at whatever scale of magnitude, is specifically developed within it.

With regard to this, I have had to reformulate 8 lines of page 5 as follows:

In perfect continuity with Galileo's ideals and intuitive perceptions (according to which the motions of the celestial bodies are governed by geometric figures like "the circles"), the holistic theory proves that the sexagesimal system which contains the regular pentagon is predetermined by the equation l(5) = sqr (2 – A) = 2 sin 36 = 2 sin 72 A = ….

l(5) = the side of the pentagon inscribed in the circumference of the unitary radius. This means that the golden section predetermines the sexagesimal system, with all that follows in the sequence of events (conversely, in the literature, it is erroneously assumed that this system is merely conventional). It is deduced that the Universe, on all scales of magnitude, could be described using two parameters alone: the energy diffused in the cosmos and the goniometric protractor (used as if it were a mathematical operator).

A = [sqr 5 –1]/2 = 0,6180339887 golden ratio. Describes the division of a segment into two unequal parts (a and b), so that: Golden section [(a + b): a = a : b]. From this golden ratio one may trace one’s way to the sexagesimal system of measurement and to the origin of the number alpha (see hereinafter).

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In the literature it is argued that the sexagesimal system (used in trigonometric functions) is "conventional", and it is thus wrongly deduced that it cannot regulate cosmic evolution. In contrast, the holistic theory states that the role played by this system (although underestimated) is particularly important, as the origin of all the heavenly bodies, at whatever scale of magnitude, is specifically developed within it.

With regard to this, I have had to reformulate 8 lines of page 5 as follows:

In perfect continuity with Galileo's ideals and intuitive perceptions (according to which the motions of the celestial bodies are governed by geometric figures like "the circles"), the holistic theory proves that the sexagesimal system which contains the regular pentagon is predetermined by the equation l(5) = sqr (2 – A) = 2 sin 36 = 2 sin 72 A = ….

l(5) = the side of the pentagon inscribed in the circumference of the unitary radius. This means that the golden section predetermines the sexagesimal system, with all that follows in the sequence of events (conversely, in the literature, it is erroneously assumed that this system is merely conventional). It is deduced that the Universe, on all scales of magnitude, could be described using two parameters alone: the energy diffused in the cosmos and the goniometric protractor (used as if it were a mathematical operator).

A = [sqr 5 –1]/2 = 0,6180339887 golden ratio. Describes the division of a segment into two unequal parts (a and b), so that: Golden section [(a + b): a = a : b]. From this golden ratio one may trace one’s way to the sexagesimal system of measurement and to the origin of the number alpha (see hereinafter).

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Very interesting essay

I have some observation connected with 18 degrees angle

http://vixra.org/abs/0907.0012

See also my essay http://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/1413

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I have some observation connected with 18 degrees angle

http://vixra.org/abs/0907.0012

See also my essay http://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/1413

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In common between as i see limiting angle 18 degrees.

Very interesting coincidence....

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Very interesting coincidence....

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This is my simple observation- calculation with mass of elementary particles.

http://vixra.org/abs/0907.0012

my suspicion this is connected with dodecahedron universe

angle of 18 degrees very interesting phenomenon

for example if the universe evolution is cyclic

then 180 degrees half of 1 cycle

180/18=10 just every angle convert to other dimension

10 dimensions is base of string theory.

I bring to your attention my other article

http://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/1413

Sincerely

Yu

ri

P.S 18 X 7=126 JUST VALUE OG HIGGS BOSON MASS

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http://vixra.org/abs/0907.0012

my suspicion this is connected with dodecahedron universe

angle of 18 degrees very interesting phenomenon

for example if the universe evolution is cyclic

then 180 degrees half of 1 cycle

180/18=10 just every angle convert to other dimension

10 dimensions is base of string theory.

I bring to your attention my other article

http://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/1413

Sincerely

Yu

ri

P.S 18 X 7=126 JUST VALUE OG HIGGS BOSON MASS

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Important Note for the judges of the FQxi Contest

Among the comments on my article "Genesis: The Origin of Quarks, From the Number Alpha to the Materiality of the Universe" (Ugo Fabbri, 20.08.2012 httpf :/ / qxi.org/community/forum/topic/1387) I have introduced the following clarification:

Following the animated discussion arising on the point, I must point out the following:

The relations of golden proportionality inherent in the inscribed pentagon cannot constitute an absolute system of measurement. However, the case of the number alpha (fine structure constant) is different. This number, in fact, describes the relations of proportionality that exist between the physical magnitudes of electromagnetism, in turn defined by the International System of measurement (ISM). The holistic theory shows (page 6 of the article) that the sexagesimal system is a derived effect of the ISM, revealed by the number alpha. The importance of this specification lies in the fact that the sexagesimal system (underestimated in the literature) regulates all cosmic evolution (origin of matter and interaction of gravity).

The primordial universe is void of matter and traversed only by electromagnetic waves defined by the electromagnetic spectrum: the interaction between these radiations is the only instrument available that can give rise to those relations of proportionality (such as the alpha number) governing the formation of the fundamental particles. At the origin of the Whole, therefore, there are only the ratios between the various physical magnitudes (the sexagesimal system of measurement derives indirectly from a conventional choice, which, however, becomes a conditioning factor in every scientific discipline).

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Among the comments on my article "Genesis: The Origin of Quarks, From the Number Alpha to the Materiality of the Universe" (Ugo Fabbri, 20.08.2012 httpf :/ / qxi.org/community/forum/topic/1387) I have introduced the following clarification:

Following the animated discussion arising on the point, I must point out the following:

The relations of golden proportionality inherent in the inscribed pentagon cannot constitute an absolute system of measurement. However, the case of the number alpha (fine structure constant) is different. This number, in fact, describes the relations of proportionality that exist between the physical magnitudes of electromagnetism, in turn defined by the International System of measurement (ISM). The holistic theory shows (page 6 of the article) that the sexagesimal system is a derived effect of the ISM, revealed by the number alpha. The importance of this specification lies in the fact that the sexagesimal system (underestimated in the literature) regulates all cosmic evolution (origin of matter and interaction of gravity).

The primordial universe is void of matter and traversed only by electromagnetic waves defined by the electromagnetic spectrum: the interaction between these radiations is the only instrument available that can give rise to those relations of proportionality (such as the alpha number) governing the formation of the fundamental particles. At the origin of the Whole, therefore, there are only the ratios between the various physical magnitudes (the sexagesimal system of measurement derives indirectly from a conventional choice, which, however, becomes a conditioning factor in every scientific discipline).

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In my essay you can see golden proportion between mass of proton and mass of Hawking primordial black holes.

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Dear Ugo,

Can you compare the idea of the Theory of Infinite Hierarchical Nesting of Matter (which is in my essay) with the theory of holism in your essay? May nesting of matter has an additional principle? It seems there are possible such properties of reality as maximal, dynamic, global and collective action of different carriers and quanta. In your essay is: < Current science is unable to reconstruct the origin of matter and of the interaction of gravity therewith, and therefore, in order to develop new knowledge, it is necessary to replace the old paradigms.> What can you say about Le Sages theory of gravitation in which the mechanism of gravitation is well understood? And additional remark - at the level of star is a similarity with chemical elements, see Similarity of matter levels .

Sergey Fedosin

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Can you compare the idea of the Theory of Infinite Hierarchical Nesting of Matter (which is in my essay) with the theory of holism in your essay? May nesting of matter has an additional principle? It seems there are possible such properties of reality as maximal, dynamic, global and collective action of different carriers and quanta. In your essay is: < Current science is unable to reconstruct the origin of matter and of the interaction of gravity therewith, and therefore, in order to develop new knowledge, it is necessary to replace the old paradigms.> What can you say about Le Sages theory of gravitation in which the mechanism of gravitation is well understood? And additional remark - at the level of star is a similarity with chemical elements, see Similarity of matter levels .

Sergey Fedosin

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Dear Ugo

I wish I was more of an expert to judge your fascinating and well-written essay. Your ideas point to an exquisite and underlying order at the basis of physics and the cosmos. I fully believe that too, and I have described my own qualitative holistic approach in Beautiful Universe Theory which is the basis of my fqxi essay Fix Physics! . Have you considered any applications of the Fibonacci series in your schemes (after all the Golden Section emerges from a geometrical application of this series)?

You may be interested in other fqxi essays seeking an ordered physics - that about electrons by Kenneth Snelson, and that about the dynamics of nuclear interactions by Norman Cook. Like your and my approach all these theories believe in an ordered constructive universe - so differnt from quantum foam or probability approaches. Your rating is appreciated.

Avanti

Vladimir

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I wish I was more of an expert to judge your fascinating and well-written essay. Your ideas point to an exquisite and underlying order at the basis of physics and the cosmos. I fully believe that too, and I have described my own qualitative holistic approach in Beautiful Universe Theory which is the basis of my fqxi essay Fix Physics! . Have you considered any applications of the Fibonacci series in your schemes (after all the Golden Section emerges from a geometrical application of this series)?

You may be interested in other fqxi essays seeking an ordered physics - that about electrons by Kenneth Snelson, and that about the dynamics of nuclear interactions by Norman Cook. Like your and my approach all these theories believe in an ordered constructive universe - so differnt from quantum foam or probability approaches. Your rating is appreciated.

Avanti

Vladimir

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Dear Ugo Fabbri

"This matrix is a virtual quantum configuration of energy containment (of ideally spherical symmetry), capable of drawing radial energy from the cosmos and of converting it into the corresponding mass" - Really great for me.

Although completely different methods, can not believe that we have the same results.

Kind Regards !

Hải.Caohoàng of THE INCORRECT ASSUMPTIONS AND A CORRECT THEORY

August 23, 2012 - 11:51 GMT on this essay contest.

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"This matrix is a virtual quantum configuration of energy containment (of ideally spherical symmetry), capable of drawing radial energy from the cosmos and of converting it into the corresponding mass" - Really great for me.

Although completely different methods, can not believe that we have the same results.

Kind Regards !

Hải.Caohoàng of THE INCORRECT ASSUMPTIONS AND A CORRECT THEORY

August 23, 2012 - 11:51 GMT on this essay contest.

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I am wondering that there is no reference to Luminet articles

They are very close to you

arXiv:astro-ph/0310253 [pdf, ps, other]

arXiv:astro-ph/0501189 [pdf, ps, other]

arXiv:astro-ph/0005515 [pdf, ps, other]

arXiv:astro-ph/9903155 [pdf, ps, other]

arXiv:gr-qc/9604050 [pdf, ps, other]

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They are very close to you

arXiv:astro-ph/0310253 [pdf, ps, other]

arXiv:astro-ph/0501189 [pdf, ps, other]

arXiv:astro-ph/0005515 [pdf, ps, other]

arXiv:astro-ph/9903155 [pdf, ps, other]

arXiv:gr-qc/9604050 [pdf, ps, other]

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I think that due to the lack of time you do not have time to read all essays. I sending to you only cosmological conclusion from my essay.

As a cosmologist you can assess at a glance.

Appendix 1 Cosmological picture of one cycle

Big Bang; Present; Big Crunch

c=10^30; c=10^10; c=10^-10

G=10^12; G=10^-8; G=10^-28

h=10^-27; h=10^-27; h=10^-27

alfa =10^-3; 1/137; 1

e=0,1 ; e=e ; e=11-12

Dear Ugo

Can you check your alfa with variation my alfa?

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As a cosmologist you can assess at a glance.

Appendix 1 Cosmological picture of one cycle

Big Bang; Present; Big Crunch

c=10^30; c=10^10; c=10^-10

G=10^12; G=10^-8; G=10^-28

h=10^-27; h=10^-27; h=10^-27

alfa =10^-3; 1/137; 1

e=0,1 ; e=e ; e=11-12

Dear Ugo

Can you check your alfa with variation my alfa?

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After studying about 250 essays in this contest, I realize now, how can I assess the level of each submitted work. Accordingly, I rated some essays, including yours.

Cood luck.

Sergey Fedosin

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Cood luck.

Sergey Fedosin

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If you do not understand why your rating dropped down. As I found ratings in the contest are calculated in the next way. Suppose your rating is and was the quantity of people which gave you ratings. Then you have of points. After it anyone give you of points so you have of points and is the common quantity of the people which gave you ratings. At the same time you will have of points. From here, if you want to be R2 > R1 there must be: or or In other words if you want to increase rating of anyone you must give him more points then the participant`s rating was at the moment you rated him. From here it is seen that in the contest are special rules for ratings. And from here there are misunderstanding of some participants what is happened with their ratings. Moreover since community ratings are hided some participants do not sure how increase ratings of others and gives them maximum 10 points. But in the case the scale from 1 to 10 of points do not work, and some essays are overestimated and some essays are drop down. In my opinion it is a bad problem with this Contest rating process. I hope the FQXI community will change the rating process.

Sergey Fedosin

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