Thanks alot Ronald for bringing to my attention the "Big Questions On Line" site, I liked it very much, and read with great interest the essay of Stephen Barr. I would like to make the following remarks :

Indeed QM has thrown a monkey in our materialistic thinking. Consciousness is unmeasurable, just as i wroye that you can describe consciousness as a singulairity, a dimesnionless point (in...

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Thanks alot Ronald for bringing to my attention the "Big Questions On Line" site, I liked it very much, and read with great interest the essay of Stephen Barr. I would like to make the following remarks :

Indeed QM has thrown a monkey in our materialistic thinking. Consciousness is unmeasurable, just as i wroye that you can describe consciousness as a singulairity, a dimesnionless point (in fact undescribable).

I also fully agree with Barr that "jumps" in wave function are not described in the Schrodinger equation, and that these "jumps" or "wave collapses" are only "caused" by intelligent observers (consciousness) and not by a "inanimate physical device".

Barr couples the obeservers KNOWLEDGE to the wavefunction so that knowledge is the cause of a discontnuous jump, in my perception it is consciousness that is the "cause" of an event (collapse) via entanglement of the causal part of our consciousness and the non causal part in Total Simultaneity, we are not far from each other but there is a difference.

In fact in my perception it is our "non causal consciousness (the part in TS)" which is what I call an alpha-probability in Total Simultaneity , that is eternal, (compare it to a point on an endless line with infinities on both sides, so the point itself has no specific (non causal) place on the line). Every moment we are making "in the future" a choice for what Barr cals an "discontinuous jump" or collapse of the wave function. The "knowledge" of Barr is eternal in my opinion. For the MWI I advise you to read my essay where I treated it.

So for your prime question about the theological interpretation I fully agree with Stephen Barr, all this does not provide an argument for the existance of GOD, but it does indirectly. The eternal alpha-points of our non causal consciousness are part of the "ALL", this is a non causal for us causal creatures ununderstandable dimension, and it is also the origin of our causal life-lines. It is a non-materialistic approach of the explanation of our "reality".

My perception also solves the so called "solipsistic approach, because after the so called "subjective simultaneity sphere", I introduce the idea of the "objective simultaneity sphere" which is the result of the fom formed by the SSS's, all the cutting circles are the common experiences, causing the "decoherence" (a communal wave function collapse leading to the reality as perceived together).

I hope to answered your questions.

regards

Wilhelmus

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Hi Barry, Your interpretation of consciousness is the one of someone who thinks he is able to "construct" it himself. In your approach it is just the reductionist one, go back and back and back untill you arrive at zero or at onother infinty. I enjoy very much your thinking because also learn a lot from it, surely about the mechanism of thinking. However I "think" taht thinking is one of...

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Hi Barry, Your interpretation of consciousness is the one of someone who thinks he is able to "construct" it himself. In your approach it is just the reductionist one, go back and back and back untill you arrive at zero or at onother infinty. I enjoy very much your thinking because also learn a lot from it, surely about the mechanism of thinking. However I "think" taht thinking is one of processes that lead to the "emergence" of consciousness, like the bits in a computer forming a line of information, the real content or better "meaning" of this information can be interpreted by the observer and each observer can have a different interpretation of the data, this cannot be taken bach with reductionism.

As far as I know you are the one who "invented" a new form of intelligence, and the word "intelligence" already covers the load. We need intelligence to "understand", without intelligence no understanding. But when you understand the processes of the brain like you do (now I also can understand it thanks to your explanations) this does not mean that the logical result will be consciousness (my interpretation,does not mean that it is the truth), I just think that our causal universe is not complete, it is only a part of a greater system (Total Simultaneity). In my earlier essay " REALITIES OUT OF TOTAL SIMULTANEITY" I proposed the devellopment of a quantum computer being the origin of new "consciousness", this form of consciousness could have other senses to explore the TS but also could communicate with our own form of consciousness so that we could also contact paralel universes and so on, it is because of the fact that this quantum computer had almost infinite probable solutions that were already available even when he was not yet under "power" that I could generate this new form of consciousness. So my reductionism in this approach is in principle also materialistic, but the consciousness is still "emerging".

I just thougt of a new thought experiment: If we have the double slit experiment then when an observer is aware of the photon(s) emitted the photon is staying particle, if not observed by an intelligent creature : wave. So if your "intelligence" is observing the experiment the result will be particle if it is "aware", if not : particle. The problem in this experiment is that we are also observing the intelligence so we are influencing the result. But perhaps you can think of a solution.

Kind regards

Wilhelmus

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Dear Johannes:

The idea is not Alpha-time but Alpha-Probability, a probability in Total Simultaneity see :REALITIES OUT OF TOTAL SIMULTANEITY", so it is a timeless and non causal probability in a different "dimension" as our own causal one. This special probability that I call Alpha is for our (causal) consciousness the contact singulairity to create a causal point on the time line of our...

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Dear Johannes:

The idea is not Alpha-time but Alpha-Probability, a probability in Total Simultaneity see :REALITIES OUT OF TOTAL SIMULTANEITY", so it is a timeless and non causal probability in a different "dimension" as our own causal one. This special probability that I call Alpha is for our (causal) consciousness the contact singulairity to create a causal point on the time line of our own causal universe that I called Beta time. So the probability becomes a "reality" in our universe through the connection of the consciousness with the unknown "dimension".

The Planck Wall is the (untill now) the down limit of length (1.616252x10^-35m) and time (5.39121x10^-44s), behind this length and time it is impossible to devide it further, which I explain as that is no longer possible to divide it in cause and event, because that is deviding.

Reality is in my perception emerging from consciousness, because of the fact thet for example in the Young Double Slit experiment the result is depending on the fact if a conscious mind is measuring (observing) the outcoming results direct after the slits, if it is NOT observed by a conscious mind : the wave pattern is observed at the screen behind the slits, if observed the particle partioning on the screen is observed. So it is our consciousness that influences the result of the experiment.

In my perception I realised that the "awareness" of the result of an experiment is minimum 200ms after the "observation", this difference means that in these 200 ms we are not yet AWARE of our perception, the final result of the experiment is that in the time line we only are "aware" in the PAST of the perception. However this counts for the experiment and the wave function is "activated". So in fact my essential question is "if the conscious observer observes and is not yet aware of his perception, there must be a consciousness point in the future that realises this "collapse" of the wave function.

I found this relation in the fact that our consciousness has an eternal paralel in Total Simultaneity (where there is no arrow of time).

I understand your mentioning of the 0,2 light seconds, indeed it is a long distance and a long time too, but our Subjective Simultaneity Sphere (SSS) can have any radius the incoming data can come from near by or far away, in fact it is the angle that is important, if you look at the sky in the night the light of the stars seems to be on one sphere, but in fact it comes from different distances, the constellation you seem to see do only exist for the view point that you are on.

best regards

Wilhelmus

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Hello Mr Milovic,

Nice to know you. I like your words, they are relevant. The aether is connected with the singularities. The singularity is complex in fact. We have an infinite light above our physicality(the physical sphere in evolution).We can say that it is the Aether. We can say also that it is a singularity without motion and temporality.without times and dimensions so, and without...

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Hello Mr Milovic,

Nice to know you. I like your words, they are relevant. The aether is connected with the singularities. The singularity is complex in fact. We have an infinite light above our physicality(the physical sphere in evolution).We can say that it is the Aether. We can say also that it is a singularity without motion and temporality.without times and dimensions so, and without rotations so of these spheres of light. This infinte light without motion above our walls can be indeed considered like a cosmos consciousness. This light is infinite and the physicality, it, is a finite system in evolution. A sphere and its spheres, quant. and cosmol.

So the serie of uniqueness is essential considering the physicality. The spheres of light so possesse also the singularities due to their central spheres.The biggest volumes. The infinite light above the walls so is connected indeed with the central sphere, quanti and cosmological. The BB can be seen like the begining of a kind of multiplication of the serie of uniqueness.This serie of uniqueness so was a fractalization of the main sphere of light.Giving so a serie , specific of spheres, the volumes decerasing. the number increasing.The rotations so imply the specificity, so the properties, the rules. The informations are from this infinite light and connected with the central spheres.The singularities so are linked with the quantic singularities and also the cosmological singularity , and also so with the infinite singularity without dimension, times and motion. The fact that this infinity is infinite is relevant considering the future universal sphere and its potential of infinity. We are still youngs at the universal scale. The infinite singularity of pure light creates a physical sphere and its spheres. My equations are relevant considering the serie of uniqueness.See that this number is the same for the number of spheres and the number of spheres of a quantum uniqueness. The volumes , spherical become so universal keys like their rotations spinal and orbital.

It is fascinating.

The free will of an aware and conscious human is so universal when the consciousness is harmonized in correlation of this Universality. To be or not to be after all. we are simple humble tools of harmlonization spherization optimization of this Universal sphere. The sphere is a project of this infinite light in fact.... The free will is not a play, this free will must be universal in fact simply.

Thanking you

Regards

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Dr Witch,

I almost need witchcraft to answer all your questions.

But you understood very well my thinking and the problems I did not touch, perhaps for the reason that they are not yet 100% matured.

Anyway I will try with pleasure:

My perception of aether:

The reference of reference is the consciousness. Aether in physics is a reference frame that is needed to...

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Dr Witch,

I almost need witchcraft to answer all your questions.

But you understood very well my thinking and the problems I did not touch, perhaps for the reason that they are not yet 100% matured.

Anyway I will try with pleasure:

My perception of aether:

The reference of reference is the consciousness. Aether in physics is a reference frame that is needed to make measurements. When our consciousness is the ultimate reference all measurements are related to this "aether". Consciousness can be represented as a singulairity in the center of our Subjective Simultaneity Sphere (SSS), so the aether I describe has no dimensions nor in our causal universe nor in TS.

Higgs Field:

You state : "Omni present Higgs Field" In my perception this is an assumption of your consciousness. It is however also present on my SSS as on the SSS's of thousand of scientists, as I indicated in my essay, these SSS's together form a "Objective Simultaneity Sphere (OSS)" all the cutting circles of the SSS's are the simultaneous experienced data, among them so the Higgs field and its particle, our consciousness has devellopped different theories of the essence of our existance. These "thoughts" are remaining probabilities of realities out of Total Simultaneity. Untill new enigma's are discovered the Higgs paricle will be for us a good possibility to explain some of our problems.

In my humble opinion the Higgs solution for our mass problems is just a try and maybe not the right one, because:

Mass is the emerging result of a space/time probability collapse with its origin in the alpha-probability in TS. Mass emerged in our memories as a facet of our "reality", that in fact is illusion. Our material existance and form are entities created by our causal and non causal consciousness, they are data from the TS to be arranged as live-lines in our causal consciousness.

On Tommy Gilbertsons essay :

He opens on page one with "Let : S= The Soul , H=Human etc"

The use of "S" in his "formula's is changed on page 3 in HS=C "C" is now treated as "Consciousness" (he quotes : Human Soul = Consciousness" and then easily goes on devellopping formula's with using "C" This is always the way of acting in "math", use a symbol and go on calculating. I am still in contact with Tommy and his "Universe of all Mathematics" touches my own perceptions of reality, however not fully. The only symbolic equation in our minds is called by a lot of us "GOD", here 4 billion people are having the same kind of idea, which means that our consciousness as I referred to in my essay has the aware perception that is more as we can understand for that i give you some paralels an addition to my essay that I wrote for "THE SCIENTIFIC GOD JOURNAL":

Spirituality and its parallels with Total Simultaneity.

The Egyptians

In 3150 BC the Egyptians had a polytheistic interpretation of their Devine ideas, what is striking in our perception is however their idea of the creation and functioning of the world that was the act of NOUN, the dark and CHAOTIC primordial ocean, that was the origin of an island ATOUM, representing the earth, or what they perceived as the universe. Here we meet the “order from chaos” as is expressed (in a different way) the order from the chaos of Total Simultaneity. The island of our “reality” created by our consciousness.

With the Greek thinkers

it was first ARISTOTLE who integers in his noblest celestial spheres the ether that wholly encloses the existent universe and calls this the “UNMOVED MOVER”, the cause of everything without being CAUSE. This ether is non corporal, impersonal, immobile and not accessible for the human being. Total Simultaneity has almost the same qualities : only it is not itself the cause of everything, it is our non-causal consciousness that is harbored in this dimension that together with our causal consciousness is the cause of everything. However our consciousness is the UNMOVED MOVER . (Aristotle : Physics 8.6, 258b26 – 259a9)

Christianity:

The interpretation of Total Simultaneity can be regarded as a way to “imagine” the GOD experience, parallels with Christianity can be found in the Holy Trinity :

“the Father” : TS (the total of all universes and their origin),

“Jesus Christ” : the human being (Us) with its causal part of consciousness :

“The Holy Ghost” : Consciousness creating the order out of CHAOS and is also a part of this CHAOS (GOD?).

In this way our causal consciousness is also part of the non causal part (divine?) and the Universe as we are experiencing it cannot be other as a fine-tuned one for our form of life and consciousness (thanks to the Objective Simultaneity Spheres that are the cause of decoherence). TS (GOD?) can also give us the peace for our souls because ALL the α-probabilities are “eternal existing singularities” available to our causal and non causal consciousness, so the life-lines as we are experiencing them are also “eternal” in TS. This can explain the “contact” we have with people who died, who are in “heaven”. Why can a four year old boy play a Mozart piece better as a grown up pianist (28) ? Somehow he is connected to the α-probability life-line in TS of a former pianist. Also the possible future life-lines are eternally “available” for our consciousness, the reason why some people are able to become aware of the future.

In Judaism :

the Kabbalah “Ein Sof” is understood as GOD prior to His Self Manifestation in the production of any Spiritual Realm and can be translated as “no end” there is no end and no beginning it is infinite. It is the origin of all created existence, the Total Simultaneity, containing ALL non causal consciousness.

The Vedanta School of Indian Philosophy :

Atman : Self (the “I”, the consciousness centre of the SSS) is the first principle, the true self of an individual beyond identification with phenomena , beyond the realisation of the β-time, where all probabilities are still possible choices available for the consciousness. A human being must acquire self-knowledge – atma jnana – which is to realise that one’s true self (atman) is identical with the transcendent “SELF” Brahman. If Atman is Brahman in a pot (the body) then one need merely to evolve out of the pot to fully realise the primordial unity of the individual soul with the plenitude of Being that is the Absolute. 5the unifying of the causal and non causal consciousness in TS). Brahman is the One Supreme, universal Spirit that is the origin and support of the phenomenal universe ! Brahman is sometimes referred to as the Absolute or Godhead which is the Divine Ground of All Matter, energy, space, being and everything in and beyond this universe (TS !) Brahman is conceived as both personal (causal consciousness) and impersonal (non causal consciousness) without qualities and Supreme. If you subtract the infinite from the infinite, the infinite remains!

Hermeticism :

THE ALL. According to to hermetic doctrine, The All is more complicated than simply being the sum total of the universe. It is more correct that everything in the Universe is within the MIND of the All, since the All can be looked upon as MIND itself. Non causal consciousness is part of TS, so the universe is partially existing on a Mental plane. In our perception the Universe is wholly existing as a result of the mental plane. In Hermeticism you cannot say simply “I am God” you are part of God (like our causal consciousness is not the Whole but a total with the non causal part). We have the potential of the perfection of GOD but you cannot reach it.

Sufism :

“All things and events perceived by the senses are interrelated and connected and are but different aspects or manifestations of the same ultimate reality. “Enlightenment” is an experience to become aware of the UNITY and Mutual Interrelation of All Things, to transcend the notion of an isolated individual self, and to identify themselves with the ULTIMATE REALITY”.

“The direct mystical experience of reality is a momentous event, in the realm of human consciousness (as-Shuhud)”

“Instead of a linear succession of instants, they experience an infinite , timeless and yet dynamic present. In the spiritual world there are no time divisions such as the past, the present and the future, for they have contracted themselves into a single moment of the present where life quivers in its true sense”

“The reality underlying ALL phenomena is beyond all forms and defies all description and specification, hence to be empty, formless or void. To the Sufis all phenomena in the world are nothing but the “illusory manifestation” of the MIND and have no reality of their own” (29)

The parallel with TS as a singularity that cannot be understood/described is obvious (contracted to a single moment).

Conclusions

• Our consciousness in RCDU emerged from a certain order of particles. The experience of time emerges from our memory . We experience our causal order as unique and solely created for the "I" which is the centre of our consciousness. The “I” has emerged from the experiences memorized. This "I" in the centre of our Subjective Simultaneity Sphere, whose surface is partly participated with other SSS's of other "I's", is forming together with them a bubbling surface of “creation” which is the origin of decoherence and the awareness of our history/reality. All these reality experiences are created thanks to the ability of “acting in the future” of our RCDU consciousness because of its unity with the α-P consciousness in TS. Our scale of reality is an emerging one and reductionism ad infinitum will not give us the origins of WHAT IS and the WHY we are looking for. Just as Richard P. Feynman said: “ We just have to take what we see, and then formulate all the rest of our ideas in terms of actual experience” (27).

• This approach of “Total Simultaneity” is one of the many theories (like string theory) that seek their origin beyond the Wall of Planck. I will never claim that it is the only truth, because the only TRUTH being not 100% available for us mortal causal beings. It is however based on the latest scientific knowledge, as we all know that this knowledge is always changing because each moment new enigma’s can be discovered. However our assumption that the limit of causality which is the Planck time/length is not influenced by new achieved limits, the acceptation of a causality limit is the base.The structure of TS and the perception of consciousness being ONE in two universes leads to compare TS with the ancient and modern understanding of GOD.

• What Total Simultaneity and the consequences for consciousness are indicating is : We try to explain that the materialistic reductionist approach is only valid until a certain limit. The physics as we are experiencing it is “emerging”. What we experience as individual “reality” is a product of consciousness entanglement and decoherence is its origin of our mutual history. Solipsism is not a consequence of this vision, Anthropomorphism is an expression that can be used here only as the indication that our reality is created by our consciousness (the causal and the non-causal part together, being ONE) and not the consciousness of another intelligent race with different constants, our reality is one of the infinite availabilities (not already “existing” space/time-lines), so is by its existence the result of our consciousness entanglement and decoherence is already fine-tuned.



Wilhelmus de Wilde (wilhelmus.d@orange.fr)

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Hi Jason,

You say there is no Soul, because everything is voltage difference and chemistry. A computer is also the same thing but the software is giving this machine usefulness to us in the form of images, sounds and information. These elements give us again feelings of well or not well being, which again is a step further as the software from the machine. All information together that...

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Hi Jason,

You say there is no Soul, because everything is voltage difference and chemistry. A computer is also the same thing but the software is giving this machine usefulness to us in the form of images, sounds and information. These elements give us again feelings of well or not well being, which again is a step further as the software from the machine. All information together that forms our Subjective Simultaneity Sphere is forming during our lives a personality an EGO that differs from other EGO's. This Ego has consciousness, this consciousness is interpreting data, because interpretation of information gives the subjective view of the individual on an object. The personality that is "formed" in this way is for everyone unique, you can also name it your soul. This specific enttity is mortal because once the machine is turned off it stops, the software is no longer working. Only now we stay with one great question : "How did this "reality" begin?" It is proved that consciouss observation is the cause of the wave collapse so a begin of what we perceive as "particle",the base of what we experience as "matter". If this observation is the origin of our reality what then is the origin of this origin ? ALL this is playing in our causel deterministic universe, where we are prisoners of time. Beyond the Planck length causality no longer is reality, we enter a new enigma tthat I called Total Simultaneity. Here is everything a probability also other paralel universes. Our consciousness here has become non-causal with all probabilities of all Jason's available. It is the entanglement between the two forms of consciousness that make it possible to observe in the causal universe, the causal universe is existing only for the duration of a Planck time, it is its frequency. What you perceive as the real world is only memory , it is your non-causal part of consciousness that has ALL the probabilities available for every other future but also for every past. So everything can be described as an illusion....

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