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Author Declan Andrew Traill wrote on Aug. 7, 2012 @ 11:35 GMT
Essay AbstractBy inverting a key assumption of Relativity Theory, one can understand its predicted odd effects of time dilation, length contraction and mass increase in terms of Classical Physics. The belief that must be suspended is that “Light always travels at constant speed”. The alternative premise is that “Light and matter waves travel through a field generated by mass, at a variable speed determined by the field’s intensity”. This new premise also leads to a Classical explanation for the attraction of Gravity.
Author BioMy name is Declan Traill. I am a Senior Software Engineer from Melbourne Australia, working at a security company called Inner Range. I am a Science graduate from Melbourne University where I was a resident of Ormond College, as were the three previous generations of my family. Science was my first love & continues to be my enduring passion and hobby. I am married, with two young daughters, and love family life. I do my Physics & programming when I can find time, which is quite infrequently at the moment as the kids require a lot of time and attention.
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Israel Perez wrote on Aug. 7, 2012 @ 18:32 GMT
Dear Declan
I enjoy reading your essay, it is clear and well written. It is surprising to me that you have considered similar ideas as some other participants. You argue that there is an energy field. According to my work, I would conceive your field as some sort of aether and therefore as some sort of preferred system of reference. In my
work I argue that no experiment can rule out the possibility of a preferred frame of reference and therefore the aether idea could be maintained. I discuss the variability of the speed of light both in my entry and in my essay. Einstein knew in 1911 that the speed of light was not really constant. The formula that you found for the frequency as function of the gravitational potential is the same formula he found. Some other participants like James Putnam also developed a similar line of thought as yours. I hope you could take a look at our works.
Good luck in the contest
Israel
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Declan Traill replied on Aug. 9, 2012 @ 12:15 GMT
Dear Israel,
Thank you, I am glad you found my essay easy to read.
I think it is a good sign if people can independently arrive at the same basic conclusions about the nature of the Universe, in the same way that it is important for different experimenters to be able to generate the same results when repeating each others experiments. If there is one reality, then one would expect all theories of nature to eventually converge towards it.
The first version of my work dates back to 1998, and the updated version of it (reference [2] in my essay) shows that not only is an ether type theory possible, it is the *only* possible theory that can work given the known facts.
It is easy to illustrate that space is filled with an energy field, as it is known that every particle has a probability function (that extends into space) that defines the probability of finding that particle at a particular location. As particles are comprised of energy, then there is a certain proportion of every particle in the Universe located in the space that surrounds each of those particles.
The suggestion I am making is that each particle is a waveform that extends to infinity (with ever diminishing amplitude), and that the Gravitational Potential of a particle at a point in space is a measure of the amount of the particle's energy that resides at that location in space. Then the interaction of this ubiquitous energy on the central concentration of energy that defines each particle is what causes the strange effect of Relativity.
I have read your essay abstract & it looks to be entirely relevant and consistent with my work at first reading. I have not had time to read your full essay yet, but will en-devour to when I can find the more time.
Regards,
Declan Traill
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Azzam AlMosallami wrote on Aug. 8, 2012 @ 01:11 GMT
i'm interested in you essay. Please read my paper which agreed exactly with your essay. http://vixra.org/abs/1208.0018
I have another paper in faxi. it is http://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/1272
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Declan Traill replied on Aug. 9, 2012 @ 12:27 GMT
Dear Azzam,
Thanks for showing interest in my essay.
I had a quick look at your paper - I will try to find time to look at it again sometime soon.
One thing I would say though, is that although nothing can travel faster than the *local* speed of light (as determined by the energy field density in space), the local speed of light can be different when comparing two regions of space, due to the differing energy field density in space at each location.
So when making an observation of one region of space from a different region of space, it can appear that something is traveling faster (or slower) than the speed of light. It is just that the speed of light (accompanied by the rate of time) is either faster or slower in that region of space.
Regards,
Declan Traill
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Edwin Eugene Klingman wrote on Aug. 8, 2012 @ 02:12 GMT
Dear Declan Andrew Traill,
I think what you have done is beautiful, and I hope it is true. I am a little confused by the step where you set phi-zero = c^2 to obtain equation (12) and QED. I realize that you then describe the value of c^2 as the field contribution from the whole universe, but I understand the value of phi-zero to represent the intensity of the field at the detector location. I'm so used to seeing c^2 as the constant speed of light, I first thought, oh!, he is using it as variable. But then you set it to GM/R which would seem to be constant. So I'm uncertain as to whether c^2 is assumed constant or variable, and whether it depends on the location of the detector (and the intensity of the field at this location.) Care to elaborate? That's one thing these comment threads are intended for.
Thanks for a fascinating essay and for any further explanation you care to provide.
Edwin Eugene Klingman
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Declan Traill replied on Aug. 9, 2012 @ 12:47 GMT
Dear Edwin,
Thank you, I'm glad you can see the beauty in the way all the equations form a consistent and coherent whole.
The speed of light is c, rather than c^2. The c^2 is most often seen in the equation E=mc^2. My latest research into particle structure suggests that particles are 'pumped up' states of the background energy field: Thus a particle with mass 'm' has 'm' times more energy than the background field that contributes the c^2 to the calculation.
In deriving equation (12), the initial proposal was that light's speed is determined by the Gravitational Potential level. As the Gravitational Time Dilation equation is also known, the proposal can work if the value of phi-zero is allowed to be c^2. Further research revealed that this value of c^2 makes sense due to the Gravitational Potential level of the whole Universe (distant stars/galaxies) is GM/R which is roughly c^2.
Further to this, it may be that any observer will always observe the background energy field to have a phi-zero value of c^2 (in the same way that an observer always *measures* the speed of light to be 'c') due to the fundamental changes to the rate of time & size of objects that accompanies a change in the field intensity.
Regards,
Declan Traill
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Azzam AlMosallami wrote on Aug. 8, 2012 @ 02:28 GMT
Dear Declan,
You adopted the same idea of my essay http://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/1272
according to my essay I formulated the SRT according to the vacuum energy, and I found the Lorentz factor is equivalent to the refractive index in optics.
I discussed the same problem in more comprehensive in my paper http://vixra.org/abs/1208.0018
I could interpret the Lorentz transformation equations by the conscept of the vacuum energy, which is agreed with quantum field theory. I solved all the contradictions regarded quantum and relativity by considering the vacuum energy.
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Anonymous wrote on Aug. 8, 2012 @ 07:58 GMT
This may be a work of genius, and forgive me for being nit-picky, but I have trouble when you change from using f for frequency and then switch without notice to Greek nu. Is that what you did? Also, it is too hard to read the difference between v and nu. Is that what you did? It is best to use a different script for v, or just stick to using f. Also it is confusing when you talk of classical light (good) and then refer to photons, which are not classical. You can just call light, light here. If you fix and post your essay somewhere in a new pdf for a simpleton like me, I would like very much to study it. I like what you are trying to do and have thought of relativity with similar reasoning as well. Thank you, ER
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Declan Traill replied on Aug. 9, 2012 @ 09:57 GMT
Thank you for your kind comments.
The section titled "General Relativity Considered" is the only section where Greek nu is used to refer to the frequency rather than f (which I prefer). This is because the reference [6] states it in this form, and is the most common form of the Gravitational Time dilation equation, and I wanted the equation to be instantly recognizable to the reader who is familiar with the equation; sorry if there is some confusion here. However, I did stick to using the same symbol throughout the section & didn't change halfway through, which would really have been confusing.
Light can be both a classical wave AND a photon if one considers a photon to be a wave packet: that is, a localized group of classical wave-crests forming a particle-like packet (wave/particle duality).
I'm not sure I can make the paper much simpler without losing the detail of its content, but I am happy to help you understand any sections you are having difficulty understanding.
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Dirk Pons wrote on Aug. 8, 2012 @ 08:33 GMT
Declan
So as I understand it, the key proposition is that 'light and matter waves flow through an energy field, at a rate determined by the field’s intensity' and therefore that a local speed of light applies. From this you derive several relationships such as the Lorentz.
Whether or not the speed of light is constant might seem a debate long settled, but it continues to be a major feature in many innovative new theoris of physics. Maybe there is something in it after all - time will tell.
Just a question: do you have a mechanism for how that fields' (variable) intensity is generated?
thank you
Dirk
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Vladimir F. Tamari replied on Aug. 9, 2012 @ 04:38 GMT
Dirk
(I apologies to Declan for answering this question addresed to him)
I have outlined exactly such a mechanism explaining how vacuum density changes occur in my (BU) Beautiful Universe Theory - please see my response to Declan below.
Best wishes.
Vladimir
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Declan Traill replied on Aug. 10, 2012 @ 09:26 GMT
Dear Dirk,
The reason why light's speed is still not settled is that an observer always *measures* light's speed to be constant in his/her frame of reference; but in order for the theory to make sense in the bigger picture, both light's speed and the rate of time must alter at the same time (and for the same underlying reason). This explains the apparent constancy of the speed of light.
As for the source of the field's intensity, it is simply the sum of the waveforms of all of the particles in the Universe. Each particle is a three dimensional standing energy wave that extends to infinity whose amplitude diminishes with distance from the particle's centre. When one adds together billions of these waveforms we get the Universe's Gravitational Potential field. The gradient of this field is what determines the gravitational acceleration at any point in the Universe.
Regards,
Declan Traill
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Anonymous wrote on Aug. 9, 2012 @ 03:54 GMT
Dear Declan
Congratulations! From your summary I fully understand and accept the premises and conclusions of your research. I still have to read your derivations, but would like to comment in general:
This idea is a re-formulation of the old concept of an 'index of refraction' (Eddington, 1920) in ether background whereby light decelerates and curves because it slows down in dense regions, not because spacetime warps. I have incorporated this in my research, for example my 2005
Beautiful Universe Theory and some of its consequences are touched upon in
my fqxi essay Fix Physics! . Your work has the merit of systematically developing this very important idea.
Wishing you the best of luck,
Vladimir
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Declan Traill replied on Aug. 10, 2012 @ 09:38 GMT
Dear Vladimir,
Thanks you for your assessment of my essay. I'm glad you understand it's meaning & purpose!
I was not aware of Eddington in 1920, I will investigate this lead later.
I had a quick scan through your paper: nice diagrams. I think you might be interested in my 3D model of an electron on the WSM Newsgroup Files section (you need to join the group to access the Files section), but I can send you images from my model if you like. I derive all of the Electron's fields (i.e. Electric, Magnetic, Electric Potential, Vector Potential etc) from a single Hertzian Vector field whose amplitude diminishes with ln (natural log) and whose equation satisfies both Shrodinger's equation and the standard wave equation.
Regards,
Declan Traill
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Vladimir F. Tamari replied on Aug. 11, 2012 @ 12:34 GMT
Dear Declan
Eddington briefly touches on the refractive index idea in his book
Space Time and Gravitation but I do not know if he explored it more fully. A century earlier Thomas Young essentially presented a very similar idea in regard to diffraction at an edge.
I am very interested in your Hertzian Vector field derivations - sounds like the mathematical rules my model is in search for! I would be happy if you send me the electron model image you mentioned. My email is in my fqxi paper, thanks. You may be interested in Norman Cook's fqxi paper, which has nice 3D simulations of his nuclear structure theory.
Best wishes for your job, family and physics.
Vladimir
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Declan Traill replied on Aug. 11, 2012 @ 12:47 GMT
Dear Vladimir,
Ok, thanks again. I will send you my Electron model images & even the Delphi code if you like... Check you email soon...
Regards,
Declan Traill
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Vladimir F. Tamari replied on Aug. 14, 2012 @ 03:20 GMT
Thank you Declan
I got it and will study it - it is a very nice simulation!
Vladimir
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Azzam AlMosallami wrote on Aug. 10, 2012 @ 22:05 GMT
ear Declan,
You adopted the same idea of my essay http://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/1272
according to my essay I formulated the SRT according to the vacuum energy, and I found the Lorentz factor is equivalent to the refractive index in optics.
I discussed the same problem in more comprehensive in my paper http://vixra.org/abs/1208.0018
I could interpret the Lorentz transformation equations by the conscept of the vacuum energy, which is agreed with quantum field theory. I solved all the contradictions regarded quantum and relativity by considering the vacuum energy.
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Declan Traill replied on Aug. 11, 2012 @ 12:42 GMT
Dear Azzam,
Thanks for re-posting your comment. I was intending to reply, but ran out of time the other day and have been busy & just found some more time to post this reply.
I have read some sections of your paper and agree with the approach regarding lights speed being determined by vacuum energy density. This has been in my online papers since 1998. However, the analogy of refractive index increasing inside a moving train is not quite correct, as the travel times of light in the upstream and downstream direction are different (due to the vacuum energy flowing through the train's reference frame). If the refractive index increased in the train, then these two travel times (upstream & downstream) would both be slower, but would be equal. If this were the case there would be no length contraction or mass increase accompanying the Time Dilation.
The flow of the vacuum energy through the train's reference frame has the effect of vacuum energy *appearing* to be of higher density and thus cause Time dilation. A higher Gravitational Potential level (on the surface of a large planet, for example) would be an *actual* increase in vacuum energy density & hence refractive index & thus also causes Time Dilation even if there is no flow of the vacuum energy through the reference frame.
Regards,
Declan Traill
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Azzam AlMosallami replied on Aug. 11, 2012 @ 17:41 GMT
Dear Declan,
My research regarded to the unified relativity theory with quantum theory was done in 1996 as my graduation research in Applied Science university, in Amman Jordan.
In my theory, there is no length contraction as mentioned by Einstein, (the of the moving frame is contracted in the direction of the velocity). I adopted the Robertson's postulate in his paper "H. P. Robertson, Rev. Mod. Phys. 21, 378 (1949)" the speed of light is independent on the direction of transmitting the light compared to the direction of the velocity of the moving frame. Robertson postulated that in order to interpret the negative result of the Michelson-Moreley experiment. If you review carefully my theory, you will see how faster than light interpretation according to my theory without violation with Lorentz transformation or causality, and my solution is agreed with the latest experimental result in quantum theory and quantum gravity. In my theory there is length contraction and mass increase accompanying the Time Dilation, but my interpretation is different the Einstein and agreed with what resulted by the latest quantum experiments.
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Azzam AlMosallami replied on Aug. 11, 2012 @ 17:57 GMT
Dear Declan,
Please review my paper http://vixra.org/abs/1111.0001
How can I interpret the length contraction and the increase of mass accompanying time dilation. and how interpreting the faster than light without violation of Lorentz transformation or causality and how it is related with refractive index less than 1, or existing the particle or the electromagnetic wave in a less vacuum energy comparing to the observer located in a higher vacuum energy or potential.
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Lee Manuele wrote on Aug. 17, 2012 @ 11:49 GMT
Declan Traill,
Your work is astounding and raises a very interesting theory. I look forward to viewing your future works including a possible solution to proving the theory through experimentation.
Lee Manuele
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Declan Traill replied on Aug. 18, 2012 @ 22:21 GMT
Dear Lee,
Thank you for the positive feedback on my essay.
The good thing about theory is one doesn't need the huge resources required to carry out cutting edge physics experiments in order to achieve good results. It would great, however, if mainstream Physics could take up the challenge of investigating some of the areas where my theory differs from the currently held beliefs.
Some of these differences would only become apparent when comparing Time Dilation's between two objects with similar masses that are traveling at a significant percentage of the speed of light, however, so performing the experiments might prove difficult.
Regards,
Declan
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Ivy Traill wrote on Aug. 17, 2012 @ 11:54 GMT
Hello Declan
I have read your article with interest. You have a very easy to read style of writing which makes difficult concepts accessible
Hope you get more interested readers
Ivy Traill
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Declan Traill replied on Aug. 18, 2012 @ 22:25 GMT
Dear Ivy,
Thank you for your comment. I have done my best to make the ideas easily understood by the reader. A certain amount of technical understanding is still required to understand the concepts, however, and this level of complexity cannot really be reduced without losing the content of the ideas that comprise the theory.
Thanks for the support...
Regards,
Declan
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Bob Traill wrote on Aug. 18, 2012 @ 15:44 GMT
Hi Declan,
A valuable piece of work. I offer the following summary, if only for my own benefit, though it may be of general interest:
This paper now offers new understandable explanations, notably:
(i) Why the Doppler effect only SEEMS to be different for light, as compared with other waves; (ii) How a WAVE-based interpretation of the particle allows us to DEDUCE General Relativity effects; (iii) Likewise for Special Relativity, with both longitudinal and transverse motion.
Going further: (iv) The asymmetry of the two parts of a standing-wave "particle" (along the radius to a mass) accounts for gravitational attraction toward that mass. -- Etc.
It is interesting to search this paper for cases of "STEPPING OUTSIDE TRADITION" as a means to achieving such creditable accounts. Four which I have noticed are: (a) It breaks the wave-particle-dualism deadlock –- in favour of the waves, but it accepts "particles" as a by-product of wave activity; (b) It dodges that tiresome demand of the 1900s that EXPERIMENTATION was the only legitimate form of testing –- and it depends instead on corroboration between different theoretical accounts. (Experimentation is not as pure as we may think -- whereas internal corroborative "coherence" is vital anyhow*).
(c) It is not afraid to amalgamate apparently-different effects into special cases of the one effect (obvious from the above summary); or conversely
(d) to identify two-or-more different "hidden" SUBCOMPONENTS with different parameters-or-whatever (as with the two components of a standing wave).
Bob
* PS. I like to think I have successfully applied this "(b)" approach in the rather DIFFERENT FIELD of explaining how HUMAN INTELLIGENCE is possible. See http://www.ondwelle.com/MolecularScheme.ppt (2012) plus http://iopscience.iop.org/1742-6596/329/1/012018 (2011) --- with emphases on Psychology & Neurophysiology respectively.
In fact I am now tempted to take that methodology issue (+ further consequences for physics) into the fqxi competition myself if I can find the time! Failing that, I might put such physics-orientated material onto my own website as www.ondwelle.com/fqxiComment.pdf -- preferably before October.
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Declan Traill replied on Aug. 18, 2012 @ 22:30 GMT
Dear Bob,
Thank you for your detailed assessment of my work.
You have identified a number of the key features in the thesis of my theory.
It would be good to see an essay from yourself submitted to this contest (just remember though that the submission closing date is at the end of this month!).
Thanks for your support.
Good luck & best wishes for your work...
Regards,
Declan
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Garet wrote on Aug. 20, 2012 @ 09:03 GMT
Hello,
I was wondering if I could also take a peek at your electron model. It sounds rather fascinating. I come from a primarily computer science background, however reading over your essay I find it understandable and even natural to consider the field densities in light's propagation this way.
Especially glad to see correlations stemming from the base concept which take into account many known principals. Kudos on the good work!
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Garet Claborn replied on Aug. 20, 2012 @ 09:06 GMT
Ah, forgot to register. excuse me.
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Declan Traill replied on Aug. 20, 2012 @ 09:08 GMT
Hi,
Thanks for the interest.
Sure I will attempt to attache the zipped up file of my project (including source code, executable, output images & a copy of one of my papers that shows the mathematical connection between the different fields).
Best Regards,
Declan Traill
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Declan Traill wrote on Aug. 20, 2012 @ 09:16 GMT
That attachment of the whole project didn't work, so I will attempt to upload the main parts - here goes...
attachments:
electron_model.zip
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Avtar Singh wrote on Aug. 20, 2012 @ 21:37 GMT
Dear Declan:
Enjoyed reading your essay and agree with the conclusions of the paper that the photon of light can have a variable speed. This is shown in my paper via Gravity Nullification model. Right before emission, a photon is at rest mass with zero velocity. After emission its speed can vary depending upon the actual velocity V. Only when it attains a speed equal to the speed of light, its mass becomes zero.
I would welcome your comments on my paper - - -“
From Absurd to Elegant Universe”.
Best regards
Avtar Singh
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Declan Traill replied on Aug. 21, 2012 @ 23:59 GMT
Dear Avtar,
Thank you for your post.
The energy that comprises a photon just before emission is one one sense at rest because it is bound up in the particle that is about to emit the photon, but in actual fact the energy that comprises the particle is in constant motion too. The energy whizzes around in a tight loop therefore forming a particle that appears to be at rest.
See my earlier post (including files) for a model of the electron to see this. The image of the power flow shows the electron's energy flowing around the electron's spin axis in closed loops.
Regards,
Declan
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Karoly Kehrer wrote on Aug. 29, 2012 @ 20:23 GMT
The last hundred years has seen surfacing many new theories to explain new observations. In some cases the realm of the validity of old and well established constants had to be reevaluated, like the constant of gravity, G, or in other cases they had to be constantly changed like in the case of the cosmological constant. Since the values of the universal constants are interdependent there is a high probability they will keep changing. Those constants, whose values depend on the environment, may have constant values only under certain physical conditions.
Thank You Declan for your must needed fresh approach to basic problems of phisics
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Declan Traill replied on Sep. 4, 2012 @ 23:17 GMT
Dear Karoly,
Thank you for your comments. Indeed it is important that we are able to identify which 'constants' are actually constant and which can change in order to construct our model of the Universe properly.
Regards,
Declan
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Karoly Kehrer wrote on Sep. 4, 2012 @ 21:20 GMT
Dear Declan, your thinking helps me a lot
Thanks
Karoly
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Declan Traill replied on Sep. 4, 2012 @ 23:24 GMT
Dear Karoly,
I'm glad to hear that. It sounds like my attempt to bring clarity to a difficult subject is successful (so say a number of posts here). I just need some good Community ratings of my Essay to get my work into the final so that it will actually be looked at by the judges! Maybe you can help?
Regards,
Declan
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Hoang cao Hai wrote on Sep. 19, 2012 @ 14:21 GMT
Dear
Very interesting to see your essay.
Perhaps all of us are convinced that: the choice of yourself is right!That of course is reasonable.
So may be we should work together to let's the consider clearly defined for the basis foundations theoretical as the most challenging with intellectual of all of us.
Why we do not try to start with a real challenge is very close and are the focus of interest of the human science: it is a matter of mass and grain Higg boson of the standard model.
Knowledge and belief reasoning of you will to express an opinion on this matter:
You have think that: the Mass is the expression of the impact force to material - so no impact force, we do not feel the Higg boson - similar to the case of no weight outside the Earth's atmosphere.
Does there need to be a particle with mass for everything have volume? If so, then why the mass of everything change when moving from the Earth to the Moon? Higg boson is lighter by the Moon's gravity is weaker than of Earth?
The LHC particle accelerator used to "Smashed" until "Ejected" Higg boson, but why only when the "Smashed" can see it,and when off then not see it ?
Can be "locked" Higg particles? so when "released" if we do not force to it by any the Force, how to know that it is "out" or not?
You are should be boldly to give a definition of weight that you think is right for us to enjoy, or oppose my opinion.
Because in the process of research, the value of "failure" or "success" is the similar with science. The purpose of a correct theory be must is without any a wrong point ?
Glad to see from you comments soon,because still have too many of the same problems.
Regard !
Hải.Caohoàng of THE INCORRECT ASSUMPTIONS AND A CORRECT THEORY
August 23, 2012 - 11:51 GMT on this essay contest.
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Declan Traill replied on Sep. 23, 2012 @ 23:27 GMT
Thanks for the comment,
First thing I would say is to point out that the weight of an object on Earth or the Moon is different, yes, but the object's Mass is the essentially the same. The weight is the force imparted on the Mass by the Gravitational field.
As for the Higgs Boson etc: I think the current Standard model is overly concerned about particles, and should be focused more on waves, which are more fundamental (particles are made from waves), and on finding the common features that unify everything into a small set of common principles (as I have done in my Essay). The Higgs field sounds reasonable, and is a very similar concept to an Ether. I think it even has the same units (J/Kg) as the field I talk about in my paper. As for the Higgs Boson - I am not yet convinced that there is an actual particle of this sort, and even less convinced that it can be the cause of every other particle having mass.
From my calculations, the mass of any particle is simply the sum of the energies of the waves that comprise it. This really works! Even Relativistic Mass increase is explained this way (see my Essay). The field in which the particle exists determines (in part) the energies of the waves, and so the field filling space (be it the Higgs Field or the Ether) plays an important part is attributing the mass to objects, but why does it require a particle to do so? A field works much better & is easier to understand.
Regards,
Declan Traill
P.S If you support my work, I need some good Community ratings for my Essay (using Author's code) to give me a chance of being considered in the Finals of this contest. So please give me a good rating & point me to your work so that I can return the favour.
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Anonymous replied on Oct. 2, 2012 @ 03:17 GMT
Dear Declan Traill
I looked but did not see my "code author", or maybe I do not know how to find it, or it may be due I am "rookie" should not be granted code.I very willing to donate "10" for you, please guide me how to find it.
Hurry up.
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Hoang cao Hai replied on Oct. 2, 2012 @ 03:20 GMT
I forgot my login should be Anonymous
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Declan Traill replied on Oct. 2, 2012 @ 03:42 GMT
Well if you are an author of an essay in the contest then you should have received an author's code, which will allow you to vote in the Community rating. Otherwise you can vote in the Public rating by just entering your email address when giving my essay a rating. Giving a rating is easy, just click on the link at the top of the page...
Regards,
Declan
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Sergey G Fedosin wrote on Sep. 25, 2012 @ 12:32 GMT
Dear Declan,
If you look at two opposite standing waves in a moving body then after calculation of the form of the composite wave you find de Broglie wavelength too, if the energy of the waves is equal to the rest energy of the body. It was shown for example in the book:
Fizika i filosofiia podobiia ot preonov do metagalaktik. Perm, 1999, 544 pages. ISBN 5-8131-0012-1.
Sergey Fedosin
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Declan Traill replied on Sep. 25, 2012 @ 12:48 GMT
Dear Sergey,
Indeed! I am well aware of that. Members of the WSM newsgroup (myself included) attribute that piece of information to Milo Wolff's work on Electron structure, dating back to ~1983 I think.
The body of evidence that supports model of particles as standing waves and my Classical explanation for Relativity is large, and getting larger - I would say overwhelming in the match it makes with the real world.
Regards,
Declan
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Sergey G Fedosin wrote on Oct. 2, 2012 @ 16:11 GMT
After studying about 250 essays in this contest, I realize now, how can I assess the level of each submitted work. Accordingly, I rated some essays, including yours.
Cood luck.
Sergey Fedosin
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Declan Traill replied on Oct. 2, 2012 @ 22:14 GMT
Geoffrey Haselhurst wrote on Oct. 3, 2012 @ 08:42 GMT
A very concise well written essay Declan - congratulations. It does seem that there is growing awareness that matter is made of waves, and that these waves propagate through space / aether (an absolute reference frame).
You have shown how this foundation deduces relativity correctly without the strangeness - and this is very important for the sensible evolution of human knowledge.
A few thoughts (from a philosopher!);
i) You talk about matter waves and light waves as if they are different things. I think you will find that light waves are really just patterns of hills and hollows on the surface of the plane waves that form matter (I will discuss this at our WSM group and try show a diagram some time soon.)
ii) You have time dilation, yet if what exists is waves in space, then time must be due to this wave motion, thus time dilation must really be caused by a change in wave velocity. I am curious, if you keep time constant (same as keeping frequency constant), and just have the wave velocity and wavelength changing do you get the correct results?
iii) I agree that gravity must be due to a slowing of wave velocity in higher energy density space, thus the curvature of light past the sun is really a classical diffraction (what Einstein called the curvature of the 4D space-time continuum).
iv) Do you have thoughts on charge? My view is that this is also caused by variable wave velocity, where higher wave amplitude waves have higher velocity.
Good luck with the contest.
Geoff
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Geoffrey Haselhurst replied on Oct. 3, 2012 @ 09:10 GMT
Two clarifications.
i) By constant frequency I am referring to the frequency of the plane waves / matter waves, where for any change in wave velocity there is a corresponding change in wavelength so frequency (time) remains constant. This seems necessary to explain how the phase of matter and antimatter (opposite phase spherical standing waves) is locked across the universe.
The frequency of light changes as this is the frequency of the repeating pattern of hills and hollows on the surface of these plane waves (see point ii below)
ii) The cause of light, of these hills and hollows on the surface of the plane waves, is due to this variable velocity of light with wave amplitude (charge). e.g. For an electron its plane waves are in phase with other electrons, and thus when these plane waves flow through other electron's spherical standing waves they have a higher wave amplitude and thus velocity and this advances the wave front a little, causing an advanced 'hill' on the surface of the plane wave. Thus if these other electrons are bound in atoms and have a repeating wave pattern then this pattern is imparted on the surface of the plane waves, this being the frequency of light.
I know, a picture is worth a thousand words - perhaps others can help animate this!!
Cheers,
Geoff
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Geoffrey Haselhurst replied on Oct. 4, 2012 @ 22:08 GMT
Sorry, it is refraction (not diffraction, above) that causes light to curve past the sun. (I hate stupid mistakes!)
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Pentcho Valev wrote on Oct. 3, 2012 @ 14:22 GMT
Declan,
Your "Doppler-shift equation for normal waves (6)" and "Doppler-shift equation for light (7)" coincide if v, the recession speed of the source, is low enough (the relativistic corrections in (7) are negligible). Also, for low v, equation (6), f'=f(c/(c+v)), can be replaced by:
f' = f(1 - v/c) = (c - v)/L
where L is the wavelength. Clearly, as the light source starts moving away from the observer with speed v, the speed of light relative to the observer shifts from c to c'=c-v.
I think you have unnecessarily complicated the issue but still you get maximum rating from me for being on the right track:
"The belief that must be suspended is that "Light always travels at constant speed"."
Pentcho Valev
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Sergey G Fedosin wrote on Oct. 4, 2012 @ 07:34 GMT
If you do not understand why your rating dropped down. As I found ratings in the contest are calculated in the next way. Suppose your rating is
and
was the quantity of people which gave you ratings. Then you have
of points. After it anyone give you
of points so you have
of points and
is the common quantity of the people which gave you ratings. At the same time you will have
of points. From here, if you want to be R2 > R1 there must be:
or
or
In other words if you want to increase rating of anyone you must give him more points
then the participant`s rating
was at the moment you rated him. From here it is seen that in the contest are special rules for ratings. And from here there are misunderstanding of some participants what is happened with their ratings. Moreover since community ratings are hided some participants do not sure how increase ratings of others and gives them maximum 10 points. But in the case the scale from 1 to 10 of points do not work, and some essays are overestimated and some essays are drop down. In my opinion it is a bad problem with this Contest rating process. I hope the FQXI community will change the rating process.
Sergey Fedosin
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Viraj Fernando wrote on Oct. 5, 2012 @ 14:04 GMT
Dear Decan Traill:
You wrote: “It is interesting that two different situations, very high speed, and strong gravitational fields, yield the same effect of time dilation. In both situations, time “slows down” for the objects concerned. Given the same fundamental change to the physics of an object, what if the same underlying principle were causing the effect in both...
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Dear Decan Traill:
You wrote: “It is interesting that two different situations, very high speed, and strong gravitational fields, yield the same effect of time dilation. In both situations, time “slows down” for the objects concerned. Given the same fundamental change to the physics of an object, what if the same underlying principle were causing the effect in both cases?”
Your line of questioning whether slowing down of processes when a particle is in fast motion, or when a particle is in a gravitational field occurs under the same principle is quite correct. But is your solution correct?
I have shown in my essay: http://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/1549 that when particle energy Mc2 combines with energy of motion pc (as per energy-momentum equation which has been verified by millions of experiments), both these quantities lose fractions of themselves. I have demonstrated this very accurately for the case of the delay in the decay time of a muon and slow down of a GPS atomic clock in orbit (due to motion).
You will find how the explanation of, how the clock rate increases when the GPS clock moves to a higher altitude (opposite of slow down in a stronger gravitational field) in the following website: http://www.gsjournal.net/old/physics/viraj5.pdf under the caption of “Algorithm of Gravitation” and the following section.
So you may ask me “what is the principle involved”.
Take the case of generation of an electron and a positron by disintegration of a photon. The sum of the energy of the two parts is greater than the whole (photon). This means that for separation (fission) of a quantity of energy into two or more parts, it requires to draw energy from the field. So this energy drawn from the field is what negates the cohesion (attraction) of the two parts. For the opposite process of fusion of two quantities of energy into a single system, both quantities of energy must lose a fraction of each.
The motion of a particle occurs by the energy of motion pc, exciting the energy of the particle Mc2. This can happen only by these two quantities of energy cohering together and forming a system. They cohere by losing fractions of themselves by the factor (1 – 1/gamma). So particle energy that remains is Mc2/gamma. The clock slow down is exactly proportional to 1/gamma. (Here the coherence occurs by sharing each others’ energy to overcome the deficiency created by their mutual loss). The whole process is explained in the second part – “Geometrodynamcis of Energy” of my essay. http://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/1549
Gravitation is attraction; which is a form of coheshion (you may call it “coheshion at a distance”). Two bodies of masses M and m at a distance r, have already lost fractions of energy as determined by their gravitational potentials. This deficiency of energy causes each body to share the energy of the other to overcome the deficiency. In free-falling of a body this urge to share energy prompts the body to move closer, and by this it loses more energy and makes the urge (attraction) even stronger and so it goes on. As the body loses more and more of its internal energy, it has less and less energy left for internal processes, so the internal clock slows down.
So you would see it is by the same principle of coherence of two quantities of energy by losing a fraction each, that underlies clock slow down in motion of a body, and that when in a stronger gravitational field.
Your may also refer to the attachment: "Relativistic Phenomena Explained by Spinoza's, Leiniz and Newton's Principles" attached.
Best regards,
Viraj
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Concerned Public wrote on Oct. 6, 2012 @ 08:40 GMT
Sergey G Fedosin is bombing entrants' boards with the same "why your rating has dropped" message. They are all dated Oct. 4... same message.
WTH? I've seen one fine essay drop 89 (eighty-nine) positions, in "Community Rating" in the past 24 hours, and “Sergey’s note” came BEFORE it plummeted. Hmm.
The vote/scaling of this contest is quite nebulous.
"Hackers Rule!", I suppose!
Well??? What else is one to think? The General Public is... Watching…
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Terry Bollinger wrote on Feb. 20, 2018 @ 19:20 GMT
[NOTE: I inadvertently placed my assessment of your essay under your comment on my essay, so I suspect you have not even seen this yet (and I apologize in advance if you’ve already seen this and just did not choose to comment). Please also pardon the genuinely spontaneous “argh”s, as I actually quite impressed your essay. Finally, I inserted a rather long justification for how “primary...
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[NOTE: I inadvertently placed my assessment of your essay under your comment on my essay, so I suspect you have not even seen this yet (and I apologize in advance if you’ve already seen this and just did not choose to comment). Please also pardon the genuinely spontaneous “argh”s, as I actually quite impressed your essay. Finally, I inserted a rather long justification for how “primary causal frame SR” models can exactly the same results as traditional fully symmetric SR model. My reason to bother was that your model appears to fall into that category; I suspect you are using the term “classical” to mean much the same thing.]
Declan,
Argh! Dang it! I was all ready to dismiss your 2012 essay out-of-hand as “obviously and immediately geometrically self-contradictory”… and then realized you’ve created a genuinely clever and self-consistent world with this idea, even if I’m still not convinced of it being the
same world we live in.
If I’m reading your idea rightly, what you have created is a rigid, isotropic 3D universe in which gravity becomes something very much like optical density in a gigantic cube of optical glass. In fact, for photons I’m not seeing much difference at all between the variable-index glass cube model and your model. Light would curve near a star because the optical density of the glass would increase near the star, and so forth for all other gravity fields. That’s about as close of a match between a model and what is being modeled that you can get.
But your truly innovative addition to such model is the idea that since matter has a quantum wave length, it is
also subject to the same velocity and wavelength shifts in higher-optical-density space as are photons. Photon wavelengths shorten as the photons slow in denser glass, and similarly, so do your mass waves. But mass and total energy depends on these wavelengths, so you are using these changes to implement relativistic masses.
Once again, that
sounds like it should be an immediate contradiction with the extremely well-proven results of SR… except that it is not. You have to compare any two frames relative to each other, not to your “primary” frame of the giant optical glass cube, and that should still give you self-consistent and SR-consistent results.
To make matters worse, even though you have clearly designated one inertial frame as being in some way “special”, that does
not necessarily and absolutely mean that your model necessarily contradicts the enormous body of experimental observations that on the exact equivalence of physics across all inertial frames.
Alas, the problem is not that simple, since it is most definitely possible to create asymmetric frame models that fully preserve SR. You just have to take more of a computer modeling perspective to understand how it works.
I think I’ve already noted elsewhere in these 2017 postings that from a computer modeling perspective it’s not even all that difficult to create a model in which one inertial frame becomes the “primary” or “physical” inertial frame in which all causality is determined. All other inertial frames then become
virtual frames that move within that primary frame. Causality self-consistency is maintained within such virtual frames via asymmetric early (“it already happened”) and late (“the event has not yet occurred”)
binding of causality along their axes of motion relative to the primary frame. Speed of light constraints prevent anyone within such a frame from being aware of any causal asymmetry, since by the time the outcomes of both early (past) and late (future) binding events reach them, both are guaranteed to have occurred by information of the events reach the observer.
Incidentally, one of the most delightful implications of asymmetric causality binding in virtual frames is the answer it produces for the ancient question of whether out futures are predetermined or “free will”. The exceedingly unexpected answer is
both, depending on what direction you are facing! For us, if one plausibly assumes that the CMB frame is the primary frame, the axis of predestination versus free will is determined by whether the philosopher is facing toward or away from a particular star in the constellation Pisces, though I don’t recall off hand which is which. Direction-dependent philosophy for one of the most profound questions of the universe, I love it!
Even better is the fact that
no one in any of the frames, primary or virtual, can tell by any known test that can do whether they are or are not in the primary frame. Special relativity thus is beautifully maintained, yet at the same time having a single physical frame hugely simplifies causality self-consistency.
Bottom line: I can’t even fault your idea for its use of what is clearly just such a singular frame, because I know that having such a singular frame can very beautifully support every detail of SR. Ouch!
So, ARGH! Your 2012 model is a
lot harder to disprove than I was expecting… and please recall the goal in science is always to destroy your own models to prove that they really, truly can pass muster.
Well. Wow. I can’t rate your 2012 contest model, which I think makes me happy because it would take me a lot of closer examination of your model to comment on it and feel confident. You have a lot of equations and equation specificity there.
But it’s late so I’m calling this a wrap. I won’t forget your model. And the key defense you might want to keep in mind, since I’m sure your earlier attempt got tossed out for violating SR, is simply this: Having a primary frame in a physics model
is not a sufficient reason to dismiss it because there exist single-frame models can be made fully consistent with all known results of special relativity. Given that such models are possible, any attempt to eliminate a model
solely on that criterion is a bogus dismissal. You have to find a true contradiction with SR, one that flatly contradicts known results, rather than just offending people philosophically for making SR more like a computer model and less like an absolutely pristine mathematical symmetry. It’s not the beauty of the symmetry that counts in the end, it’s whether your model matches with and perfectly predicts observed reality, that is, whether it is Kolmogorov in nature (see my essay again).
Thank you for helping me tear my hair out in frustration!… :)
(Actually, seriously: Good work! But still… argh!)
Terry
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Terry Bollinger wrote on Feb. 20, 2018 @ 20:17 GMT
Declan,
Ah... really? The FQXi software let me follow the old reference link you sent me, and without any warning allowed me add a comment for an essay that is SIX YEARS OLD??
Sorry about that, Declan, if you ever even see this! At least the comments above really are for this essay, but I should have kept them under my 2016 blog. I was trying to, um, "fix" what I thought was an omission from a day or so ago.
Cheers,
Terry
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