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TOPIC: On the Role of Heisenberg Uncertainty Relations in Quantum Physics by Janis Ruza [refresh]

Author Janis Ruza wrote on Jul. 9, 2012 @ 12:41 GMT
Essay Abstract

It is shown that quantum standard deviation, used to derive Heisenberg uncertainty relations within the framework of quantum formalism, is not an appropriate mathematical notion for characterizing accuracy of a quantum measurement. Therefore, these uncertainty relations are a purely mathematical abstraction. Also, it is shown that the notion about measurement of non-commuting observables is inconsistent with elementary principles of quantum mechanics, stating that one can measure simultaneously only those observables, which commute with system's Hamiltonian. Because of that, Heisenberg uncertainty relations lack not just theoretical but empirical ground as well.

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Jānis Ruža is physics lecturer at the Riga Technical University.

Anton W.M. Biermans wrote on Jul. 30, 2012 @ 03:24 GMT
Janis,

''... one can say that the assumption about the fundamental role of the uncertainty relations in quantum theory is essentially wrong.''

If in a universe which creates itself out of nothing, without any outside intervention fundamental particles have to create themselves, each other, then particles and particle properties must be as much the product as the source of their interactions, their behavior.

In that case the observation obviously affects the observed properties like the uncertainty principle says it should. For details see my essay ('Einstein's Error', or www.quantumgravity.nl)

Anton

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Armin Nikkhah Shirazi wrote on Aug. 25, 2012 @ 14:49 GMT
Hello Janis,

Are you familiar with the work of Masanao Ozawa and the empirical verification of his generalized uncertainty principle by Yuji Hasegawa? If not, you may find it very interesting.

All the best,

Armin

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Hoang cao Hai wrote on Sep. 26, 2012 @ 08:37 GMT
Dear Janis Ruza

Very interesting to see your essay.

Perhaps all of us are convinced that: the choice of yourself is right!That of course is reasonable.

So may be we should work together to let's the consider clearly defined for the basis foundations theoretical as the most challenging with intellectual of all of us.

Why we do not try to start with a real challenge is very close and are the focus of interest of the human science: it is a matter of mass and grain Higg boson of the standard model.

Knowledge and belief reasoning of you will to express an opinion on this matter:

You have think that: the Mass is the expression of the impact force to material (definition from the ABSOLUTE theory of me) - so no impact force, we do not feel the Higg boson - similar to the case of no weight outside the Earth's atmosphere.

Does there need to be a particle with mass for everything have volume? If so, then why the mass of everything change when moving from the Earth to the Moon? Higg boson is lighter by the Moon's gravity is weaker than of Earth?

The LHC particle accelerator used to "Smashed" until "Ejected" Higg boson, but why only when the "Smashed" can see it,and when off then not see it ?

Can be "locked" Higg particles? so when "released" if we do not force to it by any the Force, how to know that it is "out" or not?

You are should be boldly to give a definition of weight that you think is right for us to enjoy, or oppose my opinion.

Because in the process of research, the value of "failure" or "success" is the similar with science. The purpose of a correct theory be must is without any a wrong point ?

Glad to see from you comments soon,because still have too many of the same problems.

Kind Regards !

Hải.Caohoàng of THE INCORRECT ASSUMPTIONS AND A CORRECT THEORY

August 23, 2012 - 11:51 GMT on this essay contest.

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Sergey G Fedosin wrote on Oct. 4, 2012 @ 08:57 GMT
If you do not understand why your rating dropped down. As I found ratings in the contest are calculated in the next way. Suppose your rating is
$R_1$
and
$N_1$
was the quantity of people which gave you ratings. Then you have
$S_1=R_1 N_1$
of points. After it anyone give you
$dS$
of points so you have
$S_2=S_1+ dS$
of points and
$N_2=N_1+1$
is the common quantity of the people which gave you ratings. At the same time you will have
$S_2=R_2 N_2$
of points. From here, if you want to be R2 > R1 there must be:
$S_2/ N_2>S_1/ N_1$
or
$(S_1+ dS) / (N_1+1) >S_1/ N_1$
or
$dS >S_1/ N_1 =R_1$
In other words if you want to increase rating of anyone you must give him more points
$dS$
then the participant`s rating
$R_1$
was at the moment you rated him. From here it is seen that in the contest are special rules for ratings. And from here there are misunderstanding of some participants what is happened with their ratings. Moreover since community ratings are hided some participants do not sure how increase ratings of others and gives them maximum 10 points. But in the case the scale from 1 to 10 of points do not work, and some essays are overestimated and some essays are drop down. In my opinion it is a bad problem with this Contest rating process. I hope the FQXI community will change the rating process.

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