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Author Michael Zane Tyree wrote on Mar. 13, 2017 @ 22:45 GMT
Essay Abstract

I see the mathematical universe hypothesis as the most lucid explanation of the physical universe that I have come across so far. Many questions about our particular universe and its laws of physics can be explained by this hypothesis. But I also see a further generalization of it which would explain how intentionality could arise in a universe seemingly composed only of mathematical structures.

Author Bio

Michael Zane Tyree is a visual artist and amateur astronomer who started his education aiming to be a physicist or cosmologist, but who veered into art after 3 years of college. He has read a good many science books and has a love for science, technology, philosophy and mathematics, though his technical knowledge of the latter is meager. His philosophical leaning is toward idealism, as you will see, but a particular kind of idealism.

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Don Limuti wrote on Mar. 15, 2017 @ 00:34 GMT
Hi Michael,

Thanks for pointing out that Tegmark's MUH (Mathematical Universe Hypothesis) is the background for this essay contest. I feel a little silly in that I missed that. It explains why I am seeing your essay and Carlo Rovelli's essay. I like your essay better than Carlo's in that is more honest. That is why I rate it higher than Carlo's.

Agree:

If we consider perception and emotion as ideas (aka thoughts), yes, then everything is an idea in the mind (a thought). And the physical world is a projection from the mind, with the caveat that all we perceive are attributes of objects (we never see the objects themselves). This is not in disagreement with various religions and philosophies.

Do not fully agree:

"Tegmark argues not that we invent the language of mathematics, but that we discover the structure of mathematics." If we discover mathematics then it is fundamental (a self existent structure that we discover) and fosters the thought that all reality could possibly come from mathematics. Kinda like discovering the monolith in the movie 2001.

This favored status of mathematics is not dogma with Tegmark (he really is smart), but he would like to see MUH investigated (perhaps the reason for this contest!).

My favorite mathematician is Joseph Mazur. He wrote a book: Enlightening Symbols: A Short History of Mathematical Notation and Its Hidden Powers. In this book he explains the history of mathematical symbols and how they originated from language and how they are honed over time and evolve. Following this logic, language contains the source of the universe if we massage it properly.

Perhaps we could use a LUH (Language Universe Hypothesis) :)

Another good book on how simple physical objects can generate what looks like intelligence is: Vehicles by Valentino Braitenberg.

Thanks for your thought provoking essay,

Don Limuti

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adel sadeq wrote on Mar. 15, 2017 @ 06:27 GMT
Hi Michael,

Dr. Tedmark has been criticized that he does not have the model that proves his conjecture, But I do have the model. However, even Dr. Tegmark does not dare to venture into theories that SEEM to be outside mainstream, he will be burned at the stake.

It is not that present physics is wrong, actually it is very close to the truth, after all that is how I deduced my theory. It is just that it has some conceptual flows that the physicists have to find workarounds(just like software developers!) to get this fit with experiment as much as possible.

Anyway, I hope my theory makes you more confident of your thoughts. My theory derives all the laws of nature as a mathematical structure without regard to experiment,i.e. reality spontaneously exists.

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Adel Sadeq

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Satyavarapu Naga Parameswara Gupta wrote on Mar. 17, 2017 @ 15:01 GMT
Nice essay Tyree,

Your ideas and thinking are excellent for eg…

‘ABOUT SELF-EXISTENCY

Self-existency solves the problem of infinite regression by postulating entities which, by their very nature, must exist, without cause. Mathematical structures have been postulated by Max Tegmark to be one such entity [2], and I am accepting that as axiomatic...

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Joe Fisher wrote on Mar. 17, 2017 @ 15:41 GMT
Dear Michael Z Tyree,

Please excuse me for I have no intention of disparaging in any way any part of your essay.

I merely wish to point out that “Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler.” Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955) Physicist & Nobel Laureate.

Only nature could produce a reality so simple, a single cell amoeba could deal with it.

The real Universe must consist only of one unified visible infinite physical surface occurring in one infinite dimension, that am always illuminated by infinite non-surface light.

A more detailed explanation of natural reality can be found in my essay, SCORE ONE FOR SIMPLICITY. I do hope that you will read my essay and perhaps comment on its merit.

Joe Fisher, Realist

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Member Marc Séguin wrote on Mar. 21, 2017 @ 03:14 GMT
Dear Michael,

Here are my general thoughts on your essay.

I think it was a great idea to start by giving clear definitions of the terms of this year’s essay contest question, whose formulation was, let us say, somewhat peculiar. By defining mathematical laws/structures as mindless, the question forced you to distinguish (at first) between mathematical structures and ideas,...

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Author Michael Zane Tyree replied on Mar. 21, 2017 @ 08:12 GMT
Dear Marc . . .

I DID read your “My God It’s Full of Clones” essay! And liked it very much. This was when I first learned of the essay contest, so I was reading a few previous contest winners to get a sense of what it was about. I didn’t realize that was your essay until now. Great work!

Thank you for your thoughtful perceptions of my essay. I also prefer the term...

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Satyavarapu Naga Parameswara Gupta wrote on Mar. 25, 2017 @ 00:34 GMT
Dear Michael Zane Tyree,

Thank you for your post on my essay, I am just repeating my reply here………… Your words……………………………. Your essay contains many interesting ideas, the main one being that the universe has the propensity to reproduce itself, in the form of galaxies. If your cosmological ideas are found to be consistent and can be demonstrated experimentally,...

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