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March 28, 2017

CATEGORY: Wandering Towards a Goal Essay Contest (2016-2017) [back]
TOPIC: The Code-Theoretic Axiom by Klee Irwin [refresh]
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This essay's rating: Community = 4.4; Public = 6.3


Author Klee Irwin wrote on Mar. 10, 2017 @ 16:38 GMT
Essay Abstract

A logical physical ontology is code theory, wherein reality is neither deterministic nor random. In light of Conway and Kochen’s free will theorem, we discuss the plausibility of a third axiomatic option – geometric language; the code-theoretic axiom. We suggest freewill choices at the syntactically free steps of a geometric language of spacetime form the code-theoretic substrate upon which particle and gravitational physics emerge.

Author Bio

A passionate research scientist, entrepreneur, humanitarian and global citizen, Klee Irwin is the director of Quantum Gravity Research (QGR), leading a dedicated team of mathematicians and physicists in developing a unified first-principles quantum gravity theory to replace the current disparate and conflicting physics theories. An out-of-the-box thinker infinitely curious about space, time, and matter, he has published numerous journal articles analyzing the fundamentals of physics. Since 2009, QGR has expanded through inspired research and discovery focusing on Emergence Theory, Emergence Theory & Golden Ratio, Quasicrystalline Cold Fusion, and Emergence Theory & Consciousness.

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Steve Dufourny wrote on Mar. 10, 2017 @ 19:04 GMT
Hello Mr Irwin,

Thanks for sharing your general papper.I liked it.

all the best in this contest

regards

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Author Klee Irwin replied on Mar. 10, 2017 @ 23:59 GMT
Thanks, very much. And feel free to call me Klee. We've made an interesting film for the public on this topic that you might enjoy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0ztlIAYTCU&t=1305s



Steve Dufourny replied on Mar. 12, 2017 @ 12:05 GMT
You are welcome Klee.:)

best

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Daniel de França Diniz Rocha wrote on Mar. 11, 2017 @ 03:12 GMT
Hi Klee Irwin,

I also posted an essay, take a look at it. I hope your research on CMNS are going well :)

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Daniel de França Diniz Rocha replied on Mar. 11, 2017 @ 03:19 GMT
Here's my essay.

http://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/2846

I loved yours btw, gave you 10.

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adel sadeq wrote on Mar. 11, 2017 @ 08:11 GMT
Dear Irwin,

You kept asking good questions, but it was not clear to me what the answers were. What was exactly the information theoretic code and what is its relation to the actual physics that we know.

As to your question what is energy, I answer it from the perspective of my theory is that EVERYTHING (energy, particles, their interaction, space , time ... etc) are one aspect of a mathematical structure. the simplified idea is take a cube, you could say the energy is the volume, the angles of the corners represent particles, the surface would be the charge and so on. This IS A SIMPLIFIED ANALOGY. In my system the energy is interpreted as the distance between the random points(just numbers) that from which everything else is derived i.e. emerged. Thanks.

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Author Klee Irwin replied on Mar. 11, 2017 @ 15:34 GMT
Thank you for the question and other good words. We derive our code via geometric first principles. Because we know that E8 encodes certain gauge symmetry unification physics, we project a slice of it to lower dimension via an irrational angle. This creates a non-arbitrary and non-invented code, where the symbols are regular tetrahedra. An irrational projection of a lattice encodes the information of the lattice and the projection vector. Accordingly, expressions of our quasicrystalline code encode realistic gauge symmetry unification physics.




Patrick Tonin wrote on Mar. 11, 2017 @ 11:07 GMT
Dear Klee,

I enjoyed reading your essay, the best I have read so far, probably because it conveys ideas that I like. We have come to the same conclusion that the ground of reality is consciousness.

You might want to take a look at my short essay "A Universe of information and consciousness"

All the best,

Patrick

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Cristinel Stoica wrote on Mar. 11, 2017 @ 13:46 GMT
Dear Klee,

I very much enjoyed reading your essay, which contains many thought-provoking and insightful ideas. I like how you backed with arguments the ideas of the code-theoretic axiom and E8 quasicrystalline codes, and their relation with particle physics. I also liked the definition of information you used, as meaning conveyed by symbols, and your proposal to go as far as possible before axiomatically accepting a fundamental ontological substrate, being it energy, a structure, and even information as a abstract Platonic symbols. This is very good one: "Consciousness exists because we are choosing to wonder if we are conscious." I wish you good luck with your research and with the contest!

Best regards,

Cristi Stoica

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Steve Dufourny replied on Mar. 12, 2017 @ 12:24 GMT
Hi cristi,Klee,

I like also these generalities.I beleive that strings, MTheory, geomtrical algbras with quanternions, octonions sedenions ...can converge with the spherical volumes and their 3 motions, spinal, orbital, linear.The computing can converge if the good paramters and simulations are inserted.The associativity and commutativity or not and vectors and scalars and complexs...can...

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Author Klee Irwin replied on Mar. 12, 2017 @ 18:37 GMT
Steve, tell me about how you searched a road with primes. Feel free also to email me at Klee@QuantumGravityResearch.org



Steve Dufourny replied on Mar. 12, 2017 @ 21:32 GMT
I am fascinated by the primordial fractal if I can say.If this infinite entropy has created a physcality with laws.So I imagine simply a kind of primordial fractal linking all at this instant zero creating this physicality.I consider a gravitational spherical expansion instead of our BB.So I imagined a main centyral sphere and after a serie of this volume with primes giving the serie of uniquenss, after this serie is multiplied simply implying this expansion,gravitational and spherical.This cold and heat dance ...now I beleive that for groups,the primes are important and the facvt that these zéros hunt these primes is important for the ranking.The fact that this garvity is in the cold and that the serie if finite are important.Because we can probably understand better the stable gravitation at all scales.After all they turn not due to electrromagnetism and thermo the 3D sphères :) food for thoughts ....

if I like these primes it is simply because they are the basis of numbers,it is a little if this infinite entropy had chosen these primes to build the numbers and this gravitation.It is like a primordial fractal of numbers simply.This number 1 like singularity for all serie of uniqueness, finite is intriguing like this 2 also the only one pair ??? and this 0 also these 3 numbers can explain all in the most simplistic vue .The period ,universal is harmonical with primes like oscillations of evolution harmonious.The gravity is in the same relative logic.

Best

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Wilhelmus de Wilde wrote on Mar. 11, 2017 @ 16:05 GMT
Dear Klee

I was very impressed with your essay.

Specifically the illustration "the self-organized emergence of all aspects in a code-theoretic universe"." was in agreement (at some heights) with my own perceptions.

In your conclusion you say "Resting comfortably on aggressive physical axioms,

such as energy just is, prevents exploration of further truth and

leads to possibly false scientific ideas." which is essentially the problem of science today. The Truth about self-organising consciousness will perhaps never be known. I am placing it outside our emergent phenomenon called reality (beyond the Planck Wall).

I hope that you will read and leave remarks on my perception of reality "The Purpose of Life" and also give me a rating you think it deserves.(even if there are some metaphysical aspects)

best regards

and good luck with your beautiful participation

Wilhelmus de Wilde

Wilhelmus de Wilde

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Author Klee Irwin replied on Mar. 11, 2017 @ 20:17 GMT
Wilhelmuus, good comment on not being able to fully understand emergence. You may have noticed that we speak of the notion of non-computabilty, such as the fact that a computer made of all the energy in the universe and given trillions of years to compute could not simulate from first principles the quantum wave function damping and resonance of the atoms in one of your brain cells. In a finite universe, even a universal scale quantum computer would have computational limits. And reality is deeply related to the non-local combinatorics of all particles and if a spacetime is quantized by some unknown quantum gravity theory, the combinatorics would be deep into the mysterious realm of non-computability. Furthermore, there is a beautiful notion in code theory: Emergent information has no upper limit. It tends toward infinity from a finite set of subparts because each strata of code theoretic symbols in an emergent hierarchy can have new levels of meaning and interaction with with all other levels ad infinitum without destroying the strata in the hierarchy under them. That's a beautiful mathematical fact about our reality.




Héctor Daniel Gianni wrote on Mar. 12, 2017 @ 23:12 GMT
Dear Klee Irwin

I invite you and every physicist to read my work “TIME ORIGIN,DEFINITION AND EMPIRICAL MEANING FOR PHYSICISTS, Héctor Daniel Gianni ,I’m not a physicist.

How people interested in “Time” could feel about related things to the subject.

1) Intellectuals interested in Time issues usually have a nice and creative wander for the unknown.

2) They usually enjoy this wander of their searches around it.

3) For millenniums this wander has been shared by a lot of creative people around the world.

4) What if suddenly, something considered quasi impossible to be found or discovered such as “Time” definition and experimental meaning confronts them?

5) Their reaction would be like, something unbelievable,… a kind of disappointment, probably interpreted as a loss of wander…..

6) ….worst than that, if we say that what was found or discovered wasn’t a viable theory, but a proved fact.

7) Then it would become offensive to be part of the millenary problem solution, instead of being a reason for happiness and satisfaction.

8) The reader approach to the news would be paradoxically adverse.

9) Instead, I think it should be a nice welcome to discovery, to be received with opened arms and considered to be read with full attention.

11)Time “existence” is exclusive as a “measuring system”, its physical existence can’t be proved by science, as the “time system” is. Experimentally “time” is “movement”, we can prove that, showing that with clocks we measure “constant and uniform” movement and not “the so called Time”.

12)The original “time manuscript” has 23 pages, my manuscript in this contest has only 9 pages.

I share this brief with people interested in “time” and with physicists who have been in sore need of this issue for the last 50 or 60 years.

Héctor

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Lawrence B. Crowell wrote on Mar. 14, 2017 @ 01:29 GMT
Dear Klee,

Your essay has some thought provoking ideas and lots of references. I have been working some on moment maps with exceptional/sporadic group realizations. The E8 of course is the top exceptional group with the Jordan J^3(O) and Freudenthal system leading to higher structures. This gives the automorphism group of the Fischer-Griess monster group. The topic of my essay is tangentially connected to this with entanglement symmetries and Hermitian symmetric spaces.

Is quantum gravity research, your organization, a 501C type of thing or connected to university?

Cheers LC

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Author Klee Irwin replied on Mar. 14, 2017 @ 01:53 GMT
Hi, LC. Your work sounds very interesting. Quantum Gravity Research is associated with some other research groups that are private, such as Cambridge Quantum Computing. But we are a 501c3 scientific institute. Currently, we employ about 15 scientists. I suppose we're one of the larger groups in the world working on quantum gravity and unification physics.



Steve Dufourny replied on Mar. 15, 2017 @ 09:37 GMT
Hi to both of you,

Very interesting your researchs about the monster groups.I am persuaded that many very relevant convergences could appear with the primes and 3D sphères.These strings and Lie algebras and Jordan works are interesting for computing,we can simulate and extrapolate.The Sphères inserted with their 3 motions.It is the fact that this space disappears which intrigues me implying a gravitational aether where only matter and energy exist.

Don't stop dear thinkers ....we shall check it this quantum gravitation one day :)New York Los angeles silicon valley YOU CAN DO IT TECHNOLOGICALLY SPEAKING :) tests,expermiments, simulations,.....

Regards

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Steve Dufourny replied on Mar. 15, 2017 @ 11:47 GMT
You could for example put a central sphere the biggest volume for the center.The E8 could be utilised for its fractalisation in inserting a decreasing in spherical volumes towards this weakest force.But also the strongest when we consider quantum BHs for the singularities.The 248 dimensions of E8 so can utilised like ranking but it is not sufficient.If now we insert the monsters groups,that becomes relevant for these rankings.But how can we sure about the ultim primordial fractal and the serie of sphericzal volumes?If primes are primordial also,it could be help with the fact that these zéros hunt these primes if I can say.So the ranking probably is correlated like the spherical volulmes.There is a primordial serie, a primordial corrélations between numbers and physics.The fact that these groups are finite is important at my humble opinion.These geometrical algebras are very relevant but not sufficient.How can we be sure about our associativities, commutativities, domains, series,vectors, scalars ....and utilisation of complexs.We have a kind of universal partioning of 3D sphères and primes with finite groups implying gravitation.That is why these spherons become relevant because they are this serie of uniqueness, the primoridal quantum of E.....The Mtheory ,the monster,groups;the lie or Clifford geom alg or this or that need a main chief orchestra and it is it seems to me humbly this gravitation.

Best

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Joe Fisher wrote on Mar. 15, 2017 @ 16:12 GMT
Dear Dr. Klee Irwin,

Please excuse me for I have no intention of disparaging in any way any part of your essay.

I merely wish to point out that “Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler.” Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955) Physicist & Nobel Laureate.

Only nature could produce a reality so simple, a single cell amoeba could deal with it.

The real Universe must consist only of one unified visible infinite physical surface occurring in one infinite dimension, that am always illuminated by infinite non-surface light.

A more detailed explanation of natural reality can be found in my essay, SCORE ONE FOR SIMPLICITY. I do hope that you will read my essay and perhaps comment on its merit.

Joe Fisher, Realist

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Satyavarapu Naga Parameswara Gupta wrote on Mar. 17, 2017 @ 07:16 GMT
Dear Irwin,

Your ideas and thinking are excellent for eg…

1. We discuss the plausibility of a third axiomatic option – geometric language; the code-theoretic axiom

2. An example of this is the model of the Newtonian clockwork universe [33], which postulates that, if one knew the starting conditions, a powerful computer could predict every event [30].

3. Levinson,...

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Graham Walker Cookson wrote on Mar. 18, 2017 @ 15:25 GMT
Klee Irwin,

After reading and re-reading your essay, I am honored to have received the rating you gave me. Our ideas complement each other. However for this essay contest, your essay is more complete. If I were one of the judges, you would get my vote for the best essay. That is why I rated you a 10.

I find it interesting how we came to many of the same ideas from entirely different directions. If you read my essay in detail, I cryptically make reference to supporting evidence outside of the scope of this essay. If you are curious about unusual phenomena prompting my model, I would be glad to share it with you. Thank you, Graham

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William B Goodwin wrote on Mar. 18, 2017 @ 20:39 GMT
Klee Irwin,

Your essay is very interesting and deserving of a high ranking. Your essay places high importance on information: “energy is made of information” and information is “meaning conveyed by symbolism”. Much of your focus is through quantum physics to examine the “here” (consciousness, aims and intentions).

I read the original essay question as two parts, 1) how...

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Yehuda Atai wrote on Mar. 18, 2017 @ 23:47 GMT
Hi Irwin

Your essay and "what is reality" on YouTube are very interesting and there are many principles and views that I share. I agree with you that reality is possible and not random but yet, it is not predetermined. I agree that reality is information and there is a sub-strata of a natural language. This language has in it already the geometrical potential possibilities. Meaning based...

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Lawrence B. Crowell wrote on Mar. 21, 2017 @ 00:14 GMT
I went to your website. What you are looking into looks interesting. I attach a copy of Freeman Dyson's classic essay “Birds and Frogs.” This connects with some of what you and your group are concerned with. The matter of quasi-crystals, which Dyson concerns himself with in this essay. He too invokes the idea of higher dimensional forms. The theory of quasi-crystals involves Pisot-Vijayaraghavan numbers {α_i}. These a solutions to polynomial equations of which one of the simplest is the solution for the golden-ratio, or φ = (1 + sqrt{5})/2. These are the systems of Galois fields Q(α).

Now shift focus to Heegner numbers 1, 2, 3, 7, 11, 19, 43, 67, 163. These are Q(\sqrt{-d}) = -1 such that for the j-invariant j(1 + sqrt{-d}/2) is an integer, and

exp(π\sqrt{d}) = j(1 + sqrt{-d}/2) + 744 + tiny error.

These are Ramanujan numbers. For d = 2 this discrete system is the set of Gaussian primes. For higher Heegner numbers this determines infinite lattice systems. Also the j-invariant is connected to Jacobi θ-functions, which are representations of the E8 group.

The Heegner primes determine a set of elements Z + ω(d)Z with ω(d) = -(1 – i\sqrt{d}/2. The Heegner numbers determine systems of differential forms with various symmetries. In particular this symmetry embeds the Heisenberg group. The translation symmetry of the Heisenberg group in SU(2,2), SO(16) or E8 symmetries is the abelian group in the BMS symmetry. There is a lot here and I am just giving a quick blush on this subject I am working on.

There does seem to be a connection here between the PV numbers and the Heegner numbers and symmetries. They both have something to do with exception or sporadic symmetries.

Cheers LC

attachments: birds_and_frogs_Dyson.pdf

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Author Klee Irwin replied on Mar. 21, 2017 @ 02:00 GMT
Lawrence, excellent post! Speaking of primes, let me know what you think of a paper I wrote:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/314209738_Tow
ard_the_Unification_of_Physics_and_Number_Theory



Lawrence B. Crowell replied on Mar. 21, 2017 @ 14:09 GMT
I just downloaded your paper. I have not read anything yet. I noticed you have discussion on the 200 and 600-cell. This is the 4-dim Coxeter H4 sub-cell of E8. This is an interesting area to work.

As I see it this should all feed into Langlands S-duality and a correspondence between the abelian symmetry of the Heisenberg group and the translation symmetry of spacetime.

Cheers LC

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Author Klee Irwin replied on Mar. 21, 2017 @ 14:34 GMT
Excellent. Feel free to give me any feedback at Klee@QuantumGravityResearch.org

We are interested in learning more about what you plan on focusing on going forward at Princeton.




adel sadeq wrote on Mar. 21, 2017 @ 04:54 GMT
Hi Klee,

Thank you for the comment on my page. Here are the links for my work.

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William Walker wrote on Mar. 25, 2017 @ 14:57 GMT
Hi Klee,

Cool name by the way ;)

I got a little bit into your paper and I felt like I could see the code. How vibrating balls smash together as they move up the pyramid (upside down) running into larger and larger balls with a glowing vibrating electric (electron) field. Now you eventually run into other fields and the matter grows...etc. etc. Now I typed this on 3/10 on your board... but cut / copy and paste it into my book where I hope to God I remember to send this post to you (Klee) in the future (3/25) where people can see how I can picture the future...

Best of luck in the contest!

will I AM

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