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Author John S Schultz wrote on Mar. 7, 2017 @ 16:35 GMT
Essay Abstract

The apparent tension between mindless mathematical law and aims and intentions is based on an unconscious assumption of the algorithmicity of mathematical laws. This paper is a brief exploration of the possibility that mathematical laws of science, in general, and cerebration in particular, need not be algorithmic. There is no attempt to prove the possibility. It is just a speculative description of what I take to be the landscape involved.

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Graduated from MIT course 18, moved to Vermont, founded Green Mountain Valley School (and several other businesses.) My current business is Super Thin Saws

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Joe Fisher wrote on Mar. 13, 2017 @ 16:30 GMT
Dear John S Schultz,

Please excuse me for I have no intention of disparaging in any way any part of your essay.

I merely wish to point out that “Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler.” Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955) Physicist & Nobel Laureate.

Only nature could produce a reality so simple, a single cell amoeba could deal with it.

The real Universe must consist only of one unified visible infinite physical surface occurring in one infinite dimension, that am always illuminated by infinite non-surface light.

A more detailed explanation of natural reality can be found in my essay, SCORE ONE FOR SIMPLICITY. I do hope that you will read my essay and perhaps comment on its merit.

Joe Fisher, Realist

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Satyavarapu Naga Parameswara Gupta wrote on Mar. 15, 2017 @ 05:47 GMT
Nice essay Schultz,

Your ideas and thinking are excellent like….

IF there ARE types of non-algorithmic mathematical patterns that are not PAPR, and

IF they are not approximatable by algorithmic patterns, and

IF Mother Nature has chosen such a pattern for human cerebration,

A Good proposal, I fully agree with you…………

………………… On...

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Peter Jackson wrote on Mar. 26, 2017 @ 13:53 GMT
John,

That's quite brilliant! Original, interesting, very pertinent, and despite it's brevity NOT deserving of a lowly spot! I love rooting out and challenging hidden assumptions, think it's very important to do so, and I think you do that very well here. I challenged assumptions about mathematics, logic and nature last year (and use that as part of my ontology this year) and I particularly like and agree your;

"Science is way of studying THE PATTERNS OF NATURE, ...and

Mathematics is a way of studying THE NATURE OF PATTERN"


But one question; Does a 'mathematical law' not require to be 'known' to qualify as a law? So is there anything non algorithmic which qualifies as a law? I accept that may be purely semantic as we need to extend the understanding of Law as you infer, incuding in;"whatever law governs cerebration".

My own essay identifies a mechanism without offering an algorithm. I hope you may get to read it and discuss.

Very best

Peter

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Author John S Schultz replied on Mar. 28, 2017 @ 02:25 GMT
Thanks for your comments. You are right that I was a bit careless with terminology. Mea culpa. Fortunately, I think, it is only terminological. The point really has to do with patterns, and not with whether any of us hairless apes on 21st century Earth have noticed the patterns.

It's a very busy few months at work (which is why my essay is so short,) so I have not yet managed to read any other essays. Mea culpa once more. Hopefully I'll have time next week or the week after. JS




Dizhechko Boris Semyonovich wrote on Apr. 7, 2017 @ 05:05 GMT
Dear Sirs!

Physics of Descartes, which existed prior to the physics of Newton returned as the New Cartesian Physic and promises to be a theory of everything. To tell you this good news I use «spam».

New Cartesian Physic based on the identity of space and matter. It showed that the formula of mass-energy equivalence comes from the pressure of the Universe, the flow of force which on the corpuscle is equal to the product of Planck's constant to the speed of light.

New Cartesian Physic has great potential for understanding the world. To show it, I ventured to give "materialistic explanations of the paranormal and supernatural" is the title of my essay.

Visit my essay, you will find there the New Cartesian Physic and make a short entry: "I believe that space is a matter" I will answer you in return. Can put me 1.

Sincerely,

Dizhechko Boris

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