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CATEGORY: Wandering Towards a Goal Essay Contest (2016-2017) [back]
TOPIC: A goal-oriented system approach to gravitation by Peter Bauch [refresh]
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Author Peter Bauch wrote on Mar. 6, 2017 @ 16:52 GMT
Essay Abstract

How do goal-oriented systems arise, and how do they exist and function in a world that we can describe in terms of goal-free mathematical evolution? We focus on this question with a model of a goal-oriented system approach to gravitation as opposed to general relativity's progressive goal-satisfaction. This is done by showing how space and time exist on their own in order to determine the origin of gravitation, while leaving general relativity's four-dimensional spacetime interpretation intact.

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I studied mathematics and physics at the University of British Columbia and developed an interest in physics and cosmology.

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Héctor Daniel Gianni wrote on Mar. 9, 2017 @ 19:22 GMT
Dear Peter Bauch

I invite you and every physicist to read my work “TIME ORIGIN,DEFINITION AND EMPIRICAL MEANING FOR PHYSICISTS, Héctor Daniel Gianni ,I’m not a physicist.

How people interested in “Time” could feel about related things to the subject.

1) Intellectuals interested in Time issues usually have a nice and creative wander for the unknown.

2) They...

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Author Peter Bauch wrote on Mar. 9, 2017 @ 20:57 GMT
Hector

Sounds interesting. I will check it out.

Peter



Joe Fisher replied on Mar. 11, 2017 @ 16:06 GMT
Dear Peter Bauch,

Please excuse me for I have no intention of disparaging in any way any part of your essay.

I merely wish to point out that “Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler.” Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955) Physicist & Nobel Laureate.

Only nature could produce a reality so simple, a single cell amoeba could deal with it.

The real...

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Author Peter Bauch wrote on Mar. 11, 2017 @ 20:35 GMT
Joe

Thanks for stopping by. Simple is good. I'll read your essay and comment.

Peter




Satyavarapu Naga Parameswara Gupta wrote on Mar. 13, 2017 @ 01:01 GMT
Nice essay Bauch,

Your new study about “Space-time” is good.

But this approach gives rise to Blackhole singularity as well as Bigbang singularity etc.

For your information Dynamic Universe model is totally based on experimental results. Here in Dynamic Universe Model Space is Space and time is time in cosmology level or in any level. In the classical general...

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Author Peter Bauch wrote on Mar. 13, 2017 @ 18:51 GMT
Dear SNP. Gupta

Thanks for reading and your comments. Actually my model has no singularity in a black hole. There is nothing inside the event horizon. The mass is in a shell outside the horizon.

You have an admirable passion for what you are doing and I think you have a good idea with a many-body solution using Newtonian physics – something you can't do with general relativity. It...

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Peter Jackson wrote on Mar. 17, 2017 @ 20:27 GMT
Peter,

Very nice essay. I like the model too, though as an astronomer there are some things that would bear closer examination. i.e. Have you yet looked closely at Active Galactic Nuclei and quasar dynamics? and What conclusions would your model suggest regarding the effect of what we designate; 'dark matter'?

I see you have a derisory score but feel, though short and not really on topic, that it's still worth far more.

As a mathematician I'd be interested in what you make of the derivation in the latter part of my essay. I similarly debunk the nonsense of QM, retaining all the findings and Bells theorem but producing the 'predictions' entirely classically.

Well done and thanks for a nice non obscure read, and also nice diagrams,

Best

Peter

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Gary D. Simpson wrote on Mar. 18, 2017 @ 05:49 GMT
Peter,

This is a nice essay. I favor the notion that time is not a dimension and your rationale is plausible I think. The visual aides are clear and effective.

I have a question for you. You make a comparison between the deflection predicted by Einstein vs that predicted by Newton and the ratio between the two values is 2:1. I understand that the spin of a photon is 1 compared to the spin of a fermion as 1/2. The ratio between these spin values is also 2:1. Is this a coincidence or is spin the link between GR and QM?

BTW, if you believe that space-time is an artificial construct, then you might be interested in my essay. I believe that time is simply a scalar value.

Best Regards and Good Luck,

Gary Simpson

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Bayarsaikhan Bayarsaikhan Choisuren wrote on Mar. 18, 2017 @ 13:10 GMT
Dear Peter Bauch,

Your new study about “Space-time” is good.

I believe in that space-time is an artificial construct.

You tried to visualize the space time and gravitational interaction by the hypothetical particle such as graviton and dark matter particles. I don't mind that.

I suggest that you should your approach on the Lagrange points in a system of gravitating...

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Author Peter Bauch wrote on Mar. 18, 2017 @ 20:47 GMT
Dear Peter,

Nice to hear from you. To answer your questions:

Have you looked closely at Active Galactic Nuclei and quasar dynamics?

I assume you are talking about black hole jets and accretion discs and so forth. The black hole I came up with is basic. The main point is that inside the event horizon there is no space. The matter that is normally thought to collapse into a...

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Author Peter Bauch wrote on Mar. 18, 2017 @ 20:49 GMT
Dear Gary,

Thanks for your favorable comments.



I'm not sure if there would be a solid connection between the ratios you pointed out – interesting point though.

It's been a long time since I studied math and although I still understand the concepts I learned I've lost my technical ability so much of what you've presented in your paper is unfamiliar. However, I get...

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Author Peter Bauch wrote on Mar. 18, 2017 @ 20:50 GMT
Dear Bayarsaikhan Choisuren,

Thank you for taking the time to look at my work. It's good to hear from someone who has an an advanced understanding of physics. Although my bio says I studied math and physics I didn't make it as far as differential geometry, although I have a grounding in the basic concepts. Thanks for the invitation to discuss issues but I'm afraid I wouldn't have much to say since you're light years ahead of me in a technical sense.

I went through your essay and you have some excellent diagrams and I learned a bit about Lagrangians. It's good to see you have some ideas regarding cosmology. For instance you posit a cyclical universe which I like, although I favor a big crunch as opposed to a big rip. In one of your posts you said that “free space should not be empty, it might be filled with an invisible perfect fluid with a critical flow velocity equal to the light speed.” Personally I think this is correct.

Best Wishes,

Peter



Bayarsaikhan Bayarsaikhan Choisuren replied on Mar. 18, 2017 @ 23:00 GMT
Dear Peter Bauch,

Thank you for your reply, it is nice to me to read your essay.

I appreciate your attempts for gravitation.

I think that you have a much things to do in your future.

And also I am a theoretical physicist so I am interested in your idea for GR and SR and Cosmology.

I would like to have a discuss on this subject if you send me a massage by my email address that is written in my essay in the contest

Thank you again,

Ch,Bayarsaikhan

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Bayarsaikhan Bayarsaikhan Choisuren replied on Mar. 19, 2017 @ 08:09 GMT
Dear Peter Bauch,

The speed of light in vacuum is constant relative to ‘Space’ itself, instead of relative to a material object. Therefore, the speed of electromagnetic wave is not only a speed but also a fundamental property of nature, which is able to be a key property to generate gravitational and inertial forces.

Thank you again,

With Best Regards

Ch.Bayarsaikhan

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Bayarsaikhan Bayarsaikhan Choisuren replied on Mar. 19, 2017 @ 13:35 GMT
Dear Peter Bauch,

The second term in Eq.6 in my essay is to corresponds to the Fly-by anomaly. Just remember Anderson’s empirical relation.

With Best Regards,

Ch.Bayarsaikhan

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Author Peter Bauch wrote on Mar. 19, 2017 @ 20:15 GMT
Dear Bayarsaikhan Bayarsaikhan Choisuren,

Thanks for that.

Regards,

Peter




Don Limuti wrote on Mar. 20, 2017 @ 22:31 GMT
Hi Peter,

Your essay grabbed me. And what you point out is heretical to current physics with a vengeance! And there are a few that agree with you...including me.

I would say that gravitons exist in a cartesian 3d space. However, gradients of gravitons act like a prism. Light bends when it passes thru gradients of gravitons. This creates the illusion that mass curves space-time. This illusion is workable (like the sun rising), but it causes us to miss dark matter and dark energy!

I define the graviton in a slightly different way than you do. You can check it out in the paper:

http://prespacetime.com/index.php/pst/article/view/118
8/1163

High Marks,

Don Limuti

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Author Peter Bauch wrote on Mar. 21, 2017 @ 20:12 GMT
Dear Don,

Thanks for your support. Will score in kind.

I've checked out your work and I see you have quite the passion (as I do) to come up with out-of-the-box ideas in physics. I always like looking at other alternative concepts. I've seen that idea about the gravitational deflection of light due to refraction in other places (a few here at FQXi like it) and it's interesting that you attribute it to gravitons.

I read your short (but sweet) essay which had me thinking about determinism. That reference you gave is chock-full of interesting material.

Cheers,

Peter




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