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TOPIC: Rethinking the Universe by Richard J Benish [refresh]

Human ideas of how life and consciousness relate to mathematics and physics are conditioned by the fact that we have lived our lives on a 5.97 x 10^24 kg ball of matter. These ideas would arguably be different if we had evolved instead inside a large rotating world far from astronomical bodies. Contemplating the latter perspective provides some insight on how prevailing views may be in error and how to correct them.

Born in Milwaukee, WI and having done independent research on gravity in California's Bay Area and in Eugene, OR, my continuing mission is to generate interest in performing a gravity experiment that Galileo proposed in 1632. Various accounts of and reasons behind these efforts can be found in documents linked at my website: http://www.gravitationlab.com/

On page 7, "Figure 5" should read: "Figure 6."

The corrected document can be accessed here:

http://vixra.org/abs/1703.0034

The corrected document can be accessed here:

http://vixra.org/abs/1703.0034

Nice essay Benish,

Your ideas are good…

1. The accelerating expansion of Universe

2. Martin Fairweather contemplates the dismal eventualities of pre-1998 big bang cosmology: Inevitable big freeze, or equally deadly big crunch.

3. Solving problems by trial-and-error and playfulness go with each other; they both involve processing information; they both have survival...

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Your ideas are good…

1. The accelerating expansion of Universe

2. Martin Fairweather contemplates the dismal eventualities of pre-1998 big bang cosmology: Inevitable big freeze, or equally deadly big crunch.

3. Solving problems by trial-and-error and playfulness go with each other; they both involve processing information; they both have survival...

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Dear Richard J Benish,

You wrote an essay as a great thought experiment with the Roton state in which they live Rotonians. The idea of rotation of the space close to the New Cartesian Physic, the basis of which the identity of space and matter. You write: "Briefly described, the model involves a (deSitter�like) exponential expansion—not only of discontinuous (or empty) space, but of space and matter combined such that the average density is a constant"

In New Cartesian Physic void is identified by the assertion that in nature, no rectangular bricks, of which you can lay completely space. Therefore, parts of space are in constant motion to fill these emptiness.

Then you write: "In the end we get a variety of suggestive relationships crowned, perhaps, by these equivalent ways of quantifying the local/universal acceleration of volume per mass":

In New Cartesian Physic gravitational mass is the flow vector of the centrifugal acceleration through a closed surface particles. The gravitational constant in this case, factor of its translation in inertial mass.

I will appreciate your essay if you also rate the New Cartesian Physic.

Sincerely, Boris Dizhechko

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You wrote an essay as a great thought experiment with the Roton state in which they live Rotonians. The idea of rotation of the space close to the New Cartesian Physic, the basis of which the identity of space and matter. You write: "Briefly described, the model involves a (deSitter�like) exponential expansion—not only of discontinuous (or empty) space, but of space and matter combined such that the average density is a constant"

In New Cartesian Physic void is identified by the assertion that in nature, no rectangular bricks, of which you can lay completely space. Therefore, parts of space are in constant motion to fill these emptiness.

Then you write: "In the end we get a variety of suggestive relationships crowned, perhaps, by these equivalent ways of quantifying the local/universal acceleration of volume per mass":

In New Cartesian Physic gravitational mass is the flow vector of the centrifugal acceleration through a closed surface particles. The gravitational constant in this case, factor of its translation in inertial mass.

I will appreciate your essay if you also rate the New Cartesian Physic.

Sincerely, Boris Dizhechko

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Dr. Dizhechko,

Thank you for restating two passages from my essay.

As I've noted in the comment section of your essay, the most important quality of Rethinking the Universe is that it can be tested by performing a simple, feasible experiment. As far as I can tell, your model does not come with any such clearcut test. It seems, rather, to be a virtually untestable reinterpretation of...

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Thank you for restating two passages from my essay.

As I've noted in the comment section of your essay, the most important quality of Rethinking the Universe is that it can be tested by performing a simple, feasible experiment. As far as I can tell, your model does not come with any such clearcut test. It seems, rather, to be a virtually untestable reinterpretation of...

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Dear Richard J Benish

My model of the physical world is a continuation of the model of Descartes. It is tested that was able to explain the formula for mass-energy equivalence by the opening pressure of the Universe. Through the surface of each corpuscle passes the flow pressure forces of the Universe equals the speed of light on Planck's constant – ch. This flow of force from the Universe is balanced by the flow of the centrifugal force of rotation of the mass inside the particles, the total energy is equal to mc2.

From New Cartesian Physic great potential in understanding the world. To show this potential in his essay I gave materialistic explanations of the paranormal and supernatural. Probably, I made a mistake that has bound New Cartesian physics with the paranormal and supernatural, because it does not attract the attention of others. Hope you rate my essay as high as I am yours. Don't let the New Cartesian Physic in abyss of the unknown.

Sincerely, Boris Dizhechko

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My model of the physical world is a continuation of the model of Descartes. It is tested that was able to explain the formula for mass-energy equivalence by the opening pressure of the Universe. Through the surface of each corpuscle passes the flow pressure forces of the Universe equals the speed of light on Planck's constant – ch. This flow of force from the Universe is balanced by the flow of the centrifugal force of rotation of the mass inside the particles, the total energy is equal to mc2.

From New Cartesian Physic great potential in understanding the world. To show this potential in his essay I gave materialistic explanations of the paranormal and supernatural. Probably, I made a mistake that has bound New Cartesian physics with the paranormal and supernatural, because it does not attract the attention of others. Hope you rate my essay as high as I am yours. Don't let the New Cartesian Physic in abyss of the unknown.

Sincerely, Boris Dizhechko

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Hi dear Richard

You have presented one nice and serious work devoted to physical essence of gravitation. It is my favorite theme (that is why I have stopped on this, despite it is little out of the contest!) I just advise you to open my essay (it is not about the gravity!) and look there Ref. [3]. You can find there formula (3.38) that gives the theoretical value of G = 6.673 * 10^-11 . I hope You understands what it is mean. If you will see interest here then we just will obligated to analyze and mutually to evaluate our works. I hope on your response in my page.

Best regards

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You have presented one nice and serious work devoted to physical essence of gravitation. It is my favorite theme (that is why I have stopped on this, despite it is little out of the contest!) I just advise you to open my essay (it is not about the gravity!) and look there Ref. [3]. You can find there formula (3.38) that gives the theoretical value of G = 6.673 * 10^-11 . I hope You understands what it is mean. If you will see interest here then we just will obligated to analyze and mutually to evaluate our works. I hope on your response in my page.

Best regards

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Dear Mr. Benish

Very interesting essay. To me, Rotonians vs Earthians, 1: 1.

Of course - Humans are semi-autonomous physical things produced by the Universe.

If (4) is true, where is the calculation. Calculation for G you can see here: http://vixra.org/abs/1310.0018.

You have a typo, (4) or (5).

Cosmic everything chart is very good attempt. I do not understand why the ratio of the densities is connected with alpha.

You may find helpful in further work, a very important attitude R. Bošković:

"The primary elements of matter are in my opinion perfectly indivisible & non-extended points, ... "

Try the usefulness of this attitude to realize in my essay.

Shortened and simplified version of my essay, you can see:

http://vixra.org/abs/1703.0152

Regards

Branko

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Very interesting essay. To me, Rotonians vs Earthians, 1: 1.

Of course - Humans are semi-autonomous physical things produced by the Universe.

If (4) is true, where is the calculation. Calculation for G you can see here: http://vixra.org/abs/1310.0018.

You have a typo, (4) or (5).

Cosmic everything chart is very good attempt. I do not understand why the ratio of the densities is connected with alpha.

You may find helpful in further work, a very important attitude R. Bošković:

"The primary elements of matter are in my opinion perfectly indivisible & non-extended points, ... "

Try the usefulness of this attitude to realize in my essay.

Shortened and simplified version of my essay, you can see:

http://vixra.org/abs/1703.0152

Regards

Branko

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Dear Dr. Zivlak,

Many thanks for pointing out the typo. In my original posting, subscripts for rho on the right side of Eq. (4) are in error.

The corrected equation should read as follows:

[equation]

Concerning the density on the Cosmic Everything Chart (Figure 6), given the base atomic/molecular density

[equation]

(mass of proton within Bohr radius...

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Many thanks for pointing out the typo. In my original posting, subscripts for rho on the right side of Eq. (4) are in error.

The corrected equation should read as follows:

[equation]

Concerning the density on the Cosmic Everything Chart (Figure 6), given the base atomic/molecular density

[equation]

(mass of proton within Bohr radius...

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Hi Richard Benish -

I really enjoyed your piece - both for its inside-out physics and its science-fiction-ey entertainment value. And well-written - always a pleasure! On the other hand, GR has always given me a headache thinking about it, so I've stuck to recasting QM as distributed computation instead! ... cf. my essay "Causality and Teleology".

You commented there that I am depending on standard assumptions about space and time for it all to work. In physics circles this is a cogent kind of objection, but in my particular case it's wide of its mark. The semantics of the Zed3 = {0,1,-1} geometric (Clifford) algebra I use are taken to be*identical* with their interpretation as a distributed computation, ie. no physical principle is invoked.

The development can be viewed as a purely mathematical exercise, tho it's much easier computationally ... the key observation being that co-occurring events contain information by their very existence, the argument for which proceeds from their time-like indistinguishability, cf. the "Coin Demo" in references [1] or [2] in my essay).

The fundamental connection to physics lies in the concept of exclusion, that certain states literally exclude the simultaneous existence of certain other states. That's it - the rest is just inevitable mathematical conclusions. The resulting structure - mathematical, computational,*and* physical - is the *unique* result of discrete combinatorics, and U(1)xSU(2)xSU(3)xSO(4) is a great place to land.

This can all work in your favor, it seems to me, in that here is an explicit*mechanism* that you can explore, in the understanding that every experiment is therefore a computation.

-Mike Manthey

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I really enjoyed your piece - both for its inside-out physics and its science-fiction-ey entertainment value. And well-written - always a pleasure! On the other hand, GR has always given me a headache thinking about it, so I've stuck to recasting QM as distributed computation instead! ... cf. my essay "Causality and Teleology".

You commented there that I am depending on standard assumptions about space and time for it all to work. In physics circles this is a cogent kind of objection, but in my particular case it's wide of its mark. The semantics of the Zed3 = {0,1,-1} geometric (Clifford) algebra I use are taken to be

The development can be viewed as a purely mathematical exercise, tho it's much easier computationally ... the key observation being that co-occurring events contain information by their very existence, the argument for which proceeds from their time-like indistinguishability, cf. the "Coin Demo" in references [1] or [2] in my essay).

The fundamental connection to physics lies in the concept of exclusion, that certain states literally exclude the simultaneous existence of certain other states. That's it - the rest is just inevitable mathematical conclusions. The resulting structure - mathematical, computational,

This can all work in your favor, it seems to me, in that here is an explicit

-Mike Manthey

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Dr. Manthey,

Thanks for your compliments on my essay.

I would like to reply to two of your other comments:

First, I don't see how "recasting QM as distributed computation" helps to relieve your general relativistic "headache." Is it relief by avoidance or because you have somehow subsumed GR in one fell computational swoop?

Even if it's the latter, the problem with GR's...

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Thanks for your compliments on my essay.

I would like to reply to two of your other comments:

First, I don't see how "recasting QM as distributed computation" helps to relieve your general relativistic "headache." Is it relief by avoidance or because you have somehow subsumed GR in one fell computational swoop?

Even if it's the latter, the problem with GR's...

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Richard,

Thanks for the essay. I liked your Cosmic Everything Chart showing mass vs. density.

You may be interested in the plots in my essay,*The Cosmic Odyssey of Matter*, which show mass vs. abundance for a much more limited set of forms, specifically those that fall along the ρA horizontal line in your chart.

link to The Cosmic Odyssey of Matter

Regards, Ed Kneller

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Thanks for the essay. I liked your Cosmic Everything Chart showing mass vs. density.

You may be interested in the plots in my essay,

link to The Cosmic Odyssey of Matter

Regards, Ed Kneller

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Dear Richard Benish,

I very much enjoyed your essay, it's format, and your intention of revisiting and revising our ideas of gravity. You invented an excellent vehicle for this purpose, the Rotonians.

While I do not necessarily agree with every point you made, I agree with your conclusion, that a new conception of gravity may lead to a new kind of unification that make standard...

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I very much enjoyed your essay, it's format, and your intention of revisiting and revising our ideas of gravity. You invented an excellent vehicle for this purpose, the Rotonians.

While I do not necessarily agree with every point you made, I agree with your conclusion, that a new conception of gravity may lead to a new kind of unification that make standard...

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Dear Dr. Klingman,

Thank you very much for your kind and generous comments. Given how radical my proposals are, praise is rare, and your comments are without doubt, the most*insightful* praise I've ever received.

A few more specific responses:

According to standard physics and cosmology, cosmic largeness and gravitational weakness (smallness of Newton's constant) do not...

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Thank you very much for your kind and generous comments. Given how radical my proposals are, praise is rare, and your comments are without doubt, the most

A few more specific responses:

According to standard physics and cosmology, cosmic largeness and gravitational weakness (smallness of Newton's constant) do not...

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Dear Richard J. Benish,

I have read you essay and there is something interesting for me.

Particularly these phrases are nice for me

“Rotonian attempts to understand the gravity of a planet like Earth have led to a whole new cosmology: A Universe in which the arrow of time only increases because the arrows of space and matter also only increase; a Universe which, in its eternal unfolding, must surely be teeming with life. The very existence of life in an edgeless and eternal…..

It seems to be a cosmic fact that critical junctures will arise, at which certain other facts about the physical Universe—utterly key pieces of the puzzle—must be discovered and put properly into place, to enable further progress”

With Best Regards

Ch.Bayarsaikhan

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I have read you essay and there is something interesting for me.

Particularly these phrases are nice for me

“Rotonian attempts to understand the gravity of a planet like Earth have led to a whole new cosmology: A Universe in which the arrow of time only increases because the arrows of space and matter also only increase; a Universe which, in its eternal unfolding, must surely be teeming with life. The very existence of life in an edgeless and eternal…..

It seems to be a cosmic fact that critical junctures will arise, at which certain other facts about the physical Universe—utterly key pieces of the puzzle—must be discovered and put properly into place, to enable further progress”

With Best Regards

Ch.Bayarsaikhan

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