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TOPIC: Quantum relativity as the way towards reality by Peter Leifer [refresh]
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Author Peter Leifer wrote on Feb. 21, 2017 @ 17:16 GMT
Essay Abstract

Wandering in quantum researches should lead to the rational goal - understanding. All history of the science shows how meaningful mathematical laws in physics, engineering, chemistry, etc., arose on the ground of rational human practice. I would like show that in the contradictory development of quantum physics, the theory ultimately follows the same line. ``Elementary" particles do exist. This fact does not depend on the procedure of a measurement. The existence, however, requires some description that mostly based on relations between measurable values. Our goal is to bridge this objective reality and its mental reflection. It is assumed that existence should be based on the invariant relations between measurable values. What kind of the invariance should be used?

Author Bio

I am physicist, Ph.D in physics and mathematics (1990), worked as scientific researcher at the Simferopol State University (1981-1992) and at the Institute for Advanced Studies at the Tel-Aviv State University (1993-1997). I worked as associate professor at the Crimea Engineering State University and Crimea Medical State University during (2002-2006) and (2011-2015). I retired and work as independent researcher. The area of my interests: foundations of quantum physics, quantum field theory, general relativity.

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Steve Dufourny wrote on Feb. 22, 2017 @ 09:02 GMT
Hello Mr Leifer,

A beautiful essay,congratulations I like your ideas.Don't forget 1D gravitational aether ....S3 SU(3) ...S(n) gravitationa sphere tending to infinty.I said me that you play with quantern,ions, octonions, sedenions .....the fracital of the spherical volumes so appear if and only if of course the commutativity and associativity is well utilised like the domains and the groups.

Quantum states indeed ,they turn so they are and the innertial comportments appear.

Good luck in this contest,


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Author Peter Leifer replied on Feb. 23, 2017 @ 13:47 GMT
Dear Steve,

Thank you for kind notes and tips!

In connection with the mathematical formalism I may note following.

1. Up to now only the differential geometry of the SU(N) and CP(N-1) was taken into account.

2. I use only complex coefficient functions of the SU(N) generators.

More important the physical details:

1. The generalization of the Einstein's relativity to the ``quantum relativity" of a measuring device. This needs the intrinsic unification of quantum and relativity principle and reformulation of the inertia principle. People in the framework of this contest discuss SR and GR trying mostly deny their correctness. I may note shortly that absolute motion does exist but not in spacetime, in quantum state space.

2. Such approach requires new primordial elements.

3. These elements give a possibility to formulate mathematically new conservation laws and field equations.

Best regards,


Steve Dufourny replied on Feb. 23, 2017 @ 15:42 GMT
You are welcome Mr Leifer,

Thanks also for these détails,I learn in the same tilme these parallelizations.Very relevant in all case your line of reasoning about these new conservationlaws and fields équations.I beleive strongly Mr LMeifer that we can find this quantum gravitation with this kind of mathjematical method in breaking this klind of bridge implying our standard model with...

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Steve Dufourny replied on Mar. 11, 2017 @ 00:43 GMT
I made an error about my equation, I hed not differe,ciated the wo different matter, baryonic and not baryonic.E=m(b)c²+m(nb)l² m(b( mass baryonic and m(nb) mass not baryonic,we have a road towards this entire infinite pradoxal entropy also and this correlated gravitation.

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Francis Duane Moore wrote on Feb. 22, 2017 @ 20:16 GMT
Greetings Peter; I am pleased to see your ideas about the deformation Geometry.My essay and your ideas might be combined into a more understandable model. See My essay "Proton three plane immersion connection theory". Keep going with the idea. Sincerely Francis Duane Moore.

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Author Peter Leifer replied on Feb. 23, 2017 @ 13:53 GMT
Dear Francis Duane Moore,

Thank you for greetings. Please give me a time to read you essay.

Sincerely yours,


Jeff Yee wrote on Feb. 23, 2017 @ 01:10 GMT
Peter, do you have suggestions on the quantum geometry referred to in your paper? The reason I ask is that our paper that we submitted models particles and shows similarity to atomic elements. In your paper, you conclude with spin and charge may be included in the geometry of space. In ours, we suggest that the geometry of the particle itself may be responsible for spin and charge.

What we were able to show in our paper is that a particle's mass may be similar to the construct of how protons bind in an atomic nucleus to create elements. This applies only to mass and leaves important particle characteristics of spin and charge out, which we know needs to be addressed. Hence my interest in the work that you've done. If you're curious to see our work, I'll attach a link. Meanwhile, I'm giving you a good rating on a job well done.

The Relation of Particles Numbers to Atomic Numbers

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Author Peter Leifer replied on Feb. 23, 2017 @ 14:01 GMT
Dear Jeff Yee,

Thank you for estimation, interesting questions and you article.

I need some time to read it. I should understand what means the ``geometry of the particle itself".

Sincerely yours,


Wilhelmus de Wilde wrote on Feb. 23, 2017 @ 15:59 GMT
Dear Peter,

It is a very clear essay. Your interpretation of reality is another one s mine. I think that your interpretation together with all the others here in the conquest are forming a totality of human thinking.

I hope you will find some time to read my thinking about reality you find it at :

Pls be warned that thre are participants throwing one's as rating when you have a good score (I reveived thrre ones!!!)

best regards and good luck


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Wilhelmus de Wilde wrote on Feb. 23, 2017 @ 16:03 GMT
the direct link is ;


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Joe Fisher wrote on Feb. 23, 2017 @ 17:05 GMT
Dear Professor Leifer,

Please excuse me for I have no intention of disparaging in any way any part of your essay.

I merely wish to point out that “Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler.” Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955) Physicist & Nobel Laureate.

Only nature could produce a reality so simple, a single cell amoeba could deal with it.

The real Universe must consist only of one unified visible infinite physical surface occurring in one infinite dimension, that am always illuminated by infinite non-surface light.

A more detailed explanation of natural reality can be found in my essay, SCORE ONE FOR SIMPLICITY. I do hope that you will read my essay and perhaps comment on its merit.

Joe Fisher, Realist

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Satyavarapu Naga Parameswara Gupta wrote on Feb. 24, 2017 @ 14:21 GMT
Dear Prof Leifer,

Thank you for the good essay on “quantum geometry"

You are observations are excellent, like…

1. “The experimental foundation is, say, material provision for the correctness of theoretical schemes that gives rational explanation of observations.”

2. “Einstein’s words…. “God does not play dice" . But it is not only the methodological...

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Wilhelmus de Wilde wrote on Feb. 27, 2017 @ 14:59 GMT
Dear Peter,

Thanks for your reaction.

Different colours make a beautifull rainbow....

I mentioned the ratings because I began with a 6 and a 9 nd then from nothing three 1's appeared , so I had to struggle from downwards on...

It seems to happen more, as I was warned by another author.

I just don't know who is playing this game of ones...

best regards


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Héctor Daniel Gianni wrote on Mar. 12, 2017 @ 00:09 GMT
Dear Peter Leifer

I invite you and every physicist to read my work “TIME ORIGIN,DEFINITION AND EMPIRICAL MEANING FOR PHYSICISTS, Héctor Daniel Gianni ,I’m not a physicist.

How people interested in “Time” could feel about related things to the subject.

1) Intellectuals interested in Time issues usually have a nice and creative wander for the unknown.

2) They usually enjoy this wander of their searches around it.

3) For millenniums this wander has been shared by a lot of creative people around the world.

4) What if suddenly, something considered quasi impossible to be found or discovered such as “Time” definition and experimental meaning confronts them?

5) Their reaction would be like, something unbelievable,… a kind of disappointment, probably interpreted as a loss of wander…..

6) ….worst than that, if we say that what was found or discovered wasn’t a viable theory, but a proved fact.

7) Then it would become offensive to be part of the millenary problem solution, instead of being a reason for happiness and satisfaction.

8) The reader approach to the news would be paradoxically adverse.

9) Instead, I think it should be a nice welcome to discovery, to be received with opened arms and considered to be read with full attention.

11)Time “existence” is exclusive as a “measuring system”, its physical existence can’t be proved by science, as the “time system” is. Experimentally “time” is “movement”, we can prove that, showing that with clocks we measure “constant and uniform” movement and not “the so called Time”.

12)The original “time manuscript” has 23 pages, my manuscript in this contest has only 9 pages.

I share this brief with people interested in “time” and with physicists who have been in sore need of this issue for the last 50 or 60 years.


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