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TOPIC: The Theory of Unity between the Whole and its Parts by Branko L Zivlak [refresh]
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Author Branko L Zivlak wrote on Jan. 27, 2017 @ 17:03 GMT
Essay Abstract

Abstract The theory is a mathematical interpretation of nature, bringing us to numerous predictions and accurate relations. It defines relations among several key physical constants. The proton shift, defined in my article written for the 2015 FQXi contest, is again defined and described here, with the use of different physical constants.

Author Bio

Retired meteorologist with experience in applied meteorology, climatology, computer science and ecology, continuously devoted to the accuracy of meteorological data. Zivlak represented his country at the “Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change” (IPCC) and the “Global Climate Observing System” (GCOS). In the recent years, Zivlak became interested in the issues related to the functioning of the Universe.

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Mohamed Ali Haj Yousef wrote on Jan. 28, 2017 @ 20:19 GMT
Dear Mr. Zivlak;

I don't understand how did you conclude that "the gravitational constant G is the product of a relation between the whole and its part." Could you please elaborate on this relation or equation!

However, I totally agree with your conclusion: that ("matter dominant Universe" and "radiation dominant Universe" coexist in every point in time.) and if I may add that the universe is continuous alternation between these two aspects.

Best Wishes

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Author Branko L Zivlak wrote on Jan. 29, 2017 @ 00:09 GMT
Dear Mr. Yousef,

everything is the product of a relation between the whole and its part. So that's my theory is Relational.

The key question is whether the determination of the value of dimensionless Proton shift allows prediction.

Everything is much easier and more obvious when present in a natural system of units of measure, where the mass, radius and time cycle of the universe = 1, then c = 1, G = 1, so it can be said to represent the whole (whole = 1). All the rest: the mass of a proton, Planck value, all phenomena emerge from the whole, these are the parts.

It is obvious that in (17) representatives of the whole, c and G compared with the parameters of protons, or parts.

I did not know that ("matter dominant Universe" and "radiation dominant Universe" coexist in every point in time). I have it determine, as I calculate all other related parts to the whole, using the Cycle = exp(2pi) and proton shift.

I wish if you find a mistake in the equations or confirmed.

For better understanding, see my work on FQXi contest in 2015 and then some useful comments posted.

Best Wishes




Harry Hamlin Ricker III wrote on Jan. 31, 2017 @ 14:39 GMT
Hi, I dont see that this essay relates to the essay contest topic.

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Author Branko L Zivlak wrote on Jan. 31, 2017 @ 15:56 GMT
You're not trying to understand the essay.



Joe Fisher replied on Jan. 31, 2017 @ 17:06 GMT
Dear Branko Zivlak,

Please excuse me for I do not wish to be too critical of your fine essay.

Only nature could produce a reality so simple, a single cell amoeba could deal with it.

One real visible Universe must have only one reality. Simple natural reality has nothing to do with any abstract complex musings about imaginary invisible mathematical constructs.

The real Universe must consist only of one unified visible infinite physical surface occurring in one infinite dimension, that am always illuminated by infinite non-surface light.

A more detailed explanation of natural reality can be found in my essay, SCORE ONE FOR SIMPLICITY. I do hope that you will read my essay and comment on its merit.

Joe Fisher, Realist

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Satyavarapu Naga Parameswara Gupta wrote on Feb. 7, 2017 @ 00:50 GMT
Dear Branko L Zivlak

It is a Good essay.........

It is very correct statement you gave… “"matter dominant Universe" and "radiation dominant Universe" coexist in every point in time, ”

You combined Physical constants with mathematical constants nicely. I did not see your earlier papers; I don’t know how you derived these relations…

I want to ask few small doubts ….

-The relations you have shown are valid to how many digits accuracy..?

-Did you check them using a calculator or computer?

-Probably you will have to do numerical analysis to verify and cross check…

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Author Branko L Zivlak wrote on Feb. 7, 2017 @ 09:49 GMT
Dear Mr. Gupta

First, Thank you and sorry on poor English.

About: statement of "dominant Universe“ - you can conclude from my Table in 2015. contest, but not at a first glance.

About: You combined Physical constants with mathematical constants nicely. –Everybodi combine e and 2pi in the numerous well known formulas but nobody except me combined exp(2pi) with Physical...

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Satyavarapu Naga Parameswara Gupta replied on Feb. 7, 2017 @ 23:46 GMT
Sir,

I am from India and my English is also poor, often I was given bad remarks because of my poor English

I appreciated your essay. It is good essay. I saw your comments on my essay and I will reply there.

About: Proton shift … I did not understand…

About: Witticism…. I did not understand…

About: … What is this unique structure that has the same orbital and rotation speed?... Compared with what? … I did not understand…

Can you please give web addresses of your old works…?

Best

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Satyavarapu Naga Parameswara Gupta replied on Feb. 8, 2017 @ 01:34 GMT
Dear Branko

With an after thought, I am reproducing my reply here also, so that will come to your attention immediately....

My English is also poor, I am sorry for that…

Thank you for your comments, and for trying to understand Dynamic Universe model. Thank you for well esteemed comments… I did not reply on what you already agreed…..

1. About: Have you any value...

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Author Branko L Zivlak wrote on Feb. 8, 2017 @ 08:55 GMT
Dear Mr. Gupta

Thank you for your nice words.

I Understand your English very good.

3. About: No Homogeneity – Homogeneity is statistical tool. Then if you have better deterministic tool you do not need Homogenity. Of Course, Every statistic is uncertain. Incorrect use of statistics leads to erroneous conclusions. This does not mean that it should be dismissed in the absence of better tools.

5. About: No collisions between bodies; Boscovich J. R.: (a) "Theoria philosophia naturalis redacta ad unicam legem virium in natura existentium", first (Wien, 1758) and second (Venetiis, 1763) edition in Latin language; (b) "A Theory of Natural Philosophy", in English, The M.I.T. Press, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Cambridge

7. About: No imaginary –Planck units also do not exist, but we are using them.

8. About: No differential and Integral - http://vixra.org/author/temur_z_kalanov

9. About: No General Relativity - General Relativity nobody understand, but there are something in GR that nobody grasp. Please look:

http://gsjournal.net/Science-Journals/Research%20Papers
/View/6710

You will see that Lorentz factor, gama can be very big, as for proton.

Similary, in my Theory any structure has its ratio acording to Whole. So, the Lorentz factor (transformation) is missunderstood in Big Bang Theory.

More at your post.

Regards,

Branko




Vladimir Rogozhin wrote on Feb. 8, 2017 @ 13:34 GMT
Dear Branko,

I read with interest your deep and interesting essay. You continue to study an important topic - the nature of fundamental constants and provided important ideas. calculations and conclusions on the issue of "part and whole", which is fundamental to basic science and understanding of the structure of our Universe.

Yours faithfully,Vladimir

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Gary D. Simpson wrote on Feb. 9, 2017 @ 03:52 GMT
Branko,

I do not remember reading your previous essays. Perhaps I read them and don't recall doing so, or perhaps I simply did not read them.

I'm not sure what to write here. You are onto something, but I'm not sure what that something is. Your exp(2*pi) term is similar to the scalar term in my essay. In fact, in the ratio between the mass of the proton and the mass of the electron, I need to use a value of exp(pi).

You have a collection of interesting relations. But were they derived based upon an underlying principle or were they determined by fiddling with the various terms to find something interesting? If they were derived from an underlying principle, then it is better to present that principle first and then guide the reader through the development of the relations.

You use logarithms based upon base 2. This is very peculiar for Math and/or Physics. Almost everything is usually expressed using natural logarithms.

I'm not clear about your definition of cycles. If the term "c" represents the speed of light, then "y" is simply the inverse of a velocity. Or, you might intend for cy to be read together as an abbreviation for cycles. In either case, your usage of the word cycle is not consistent with everyone else's understanding of the word. Most of the readers on the site will understand a cycle to be an interval of 2*pi.

Proton shift itself is an empirical value. It is dimensionless, so you're ok there. But it requires a reference value and a magnetic field. The magnetic field is what produces the proton shift. The proton shift has a value dependent upon the magnetic field used rather than a single value. What you present appears to have a single value. Therefore, your understanding of the meaning for "proton shift" is not the understanding of meaning that readers will have.

BTW, you cannot have data that is more accurate than CODATA data.

Best Regards and Good Luck,

Gary Simpson

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Author Branko L Zivlak wrote on Feb. 9, 2017 @ 09:32 GMT
Dear Mr. Simpson

You are an honest man, open mind. You say: "You are onto something," which means that you are on the first steps to understand my Theory on what I would like to thank. My formulas are derived based upon an underlying principle as described in my previous FQXi articles.

You say: „You use logarithms based upon base 2“.

But you know FQXi contest It From Bit...

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Gary D. Simpson replied on Feb. 9, 2017 @ 14:43 GMT
Branko,

I use the value exp(pi) in one of my references wher I explore the ration Mp/Me. At the time I wrote the reference, I had not yet developed the 5-D model. If I were to do so now, the ratio would be presented as the ratio of two 5-D wave-functions with the proton wave-function shifted by a value of pi in each dimension.

Clearly, there is similarity between what you are thinking and what I am thinking.

Many thanks for the rating. I have also rated you with a medium to high value.

Best regards and Good Luck,

Gary Simpson

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Colin Walker wrote on Feb. 16, 2017 @ 19:17 GMT
Hi Branko, I get Eq.(17) = 0.000000574908201 using the CODATA values in your paper. This not a tricky calculation, so I wonder how you get 10^{-14} which is 7 orders of magnitude smaller. Maybe you are reporting the squared error? Considering that G or any physical constant is not that well determined, it seems unreasonable to claim such accuracy. Having said that, your hypothesis is supported to the extent allowed by the CODATA values.

I feel uneasy with the idea that physical constants are a consequence of mathematics, or that mathematics is a consequence of physics. It takes the mathematical universe concept too far in my opinion, but the possibility is interesting and should not be dismissed because of intuitive considerations. Your essay certainly fuels the imagination. - cw

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Author Branko L Zivlak wrote on Feb. 16, 2017 @ 23:03 GMT
Hi Colin,

Thank you for your careful reading my essay. Of course, any equation containing G will have a number of uncertainties of G, if used CODATA value.

In applications of my Theory, all formulas are in accordance with CODATA, with all significant CODATA digits. You can see in my papers that I check my relations through the CODATA history, with a great help of Hugh Matlock. For G see: http://gsjournal.net/Science-Journals/Research%20Papers/View
/5176. Thus, checking any theory is limited with a value of most accurately measured physical constant. It is currently the Rydberg constant. My Theory has passed the test with Rydberg constant. Someone may say, "OK, Eq. (17) is exact but some of the 4 physical constants do not represent what is claimed. For example: mp mass is not a proton, that is the mass between the proton and a neutron. "

Then him, need to find what it represents.

I'm not disappointed that my Theory is offline of the current mainstream scientists. It's enough for me that it is not contrary to Newton, Bošković, Planck and Einstein to some extent.

As you can see, none of the professors in the contest read my essay. Still less would read if it there are a large number of pages. Perhaps the best strategy is to publish only the results in various fields of physics, as in:

http://gsjournal.net/Science-Journals/Research%20Papers/V
iew/6773.

Now I apply Theory in cosmology.

Regards,

Branko



Colin Walker replied on Feb. 17, 2017 @ 05:27 GMT
It might have been better to assume Eq.17 = 0, then solve for G and see whether it fits within CODATA estimated error. I get G = 6.67383601e-11 which is about 0.000004e-11 off but well within the CODATA error, 0.0008e-11. In other words, Eq.17 produces the CODATA value for G with only 1/200 of the estimated error. This is similar to what you did using the Rydberg constant in the above-referenced 5176 paper.

I think what you are on to is not merely numerical coincidence. There is something powerful in the way your techniques can be applied - for instance, a thermodynamic derivation of the CMB temperature which I saw previously. It reminds me of some of the surprising results of dimensional analysis. The exponential basis, which allows for symmetry between the large and the small, seems to be essential. - cw

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Author Branko L Zivlak wrote on Feb. 17, 2017 @ 08:37 GMT
Hi Colin,

Yes, I wrote Eq.17 = 0. Also I show that it is exact. But, if we use CODATA, error is e-7. As you show, if we relate to Rydberg constant, error is e-11. But I iven got error e-14 applaing one statistical trick. This is not numerical coincidence There are too many successful applications, it would be a coincidence. Secondly, it is obtained in a rational way. Third, does not require the introduction of unnecessary assumptions such as: dark matter, supersymmetry, the expansion of the universe, a singularity ... - zb




Jeff Yee wrote on Feb. 19, 2017 @ 01:17 GMT
Hi Branko,

Thank you for pointing me towards your essay. I enjoyed reading it. But I wonder if there is something still missing from Eq. 17? The units in your log function include G, which has units in kg. But this doesn't cancel out elsewhere. I would think when comparing it to the mathematical constants that it has to end up being dimensionless.

Nevertheless, you're likely on the right path. The mathematical constants are involved in the physical fundamental constants. I know you already reviewed our paper on this site due to your comments - thank you very much. Separate to this contest, I did some work on the fundamental constants to relate them to new wave constants. You might have interest in this work: Fundamental Physical Constants.

Good luck in the contest!

Jeff

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Author Branko L Zivlak replied on Feb. 19, 2017 @ 06:39 GMT
Hi Yeff,

It cancel:

[c^4*l^2/G^2*m^2]=[m^4*s^-4*m^2/kg^-2*m^6*s^-4*kg^2]=
[m^6*s^-4/m^6*s^-4]=dimensionless

Regards,

Branko



Wilhelmus de Wilde replied on Feb. 19, 2017 @ 17:49 GMT
Dear Branko,

I read with great interest your essay, only I am a sort of "blind" for formula's.

Your conclusion however is cristal clear to me.

Our relity is in my perception analogue (idea) and not granular, but thsi doesn't mean that an "idea" cannot have constituent "parts". Everything we think about is an aglomeration of parts leading to an answer. It is only "time" that is the reason of "experiece". The "field" unifying the parts can be consciousness. Wihout consciousness information is just chaos.

best regards

Wilhelmus

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Author Branko L Zivlak wrote on Feb. 19, 2017 @ 19:33 GMT
Dear Wilhelmus de Wilde,

There is no need to elaborate on the subject, analog or granular reality. Max Plank solved that.

Regards,

Branko




Steve Dufourny wrote on Feb. 20, 2017 @ 09:39 GMT
Hello Mr Zivlak,

A very intersting general analyse.the whole and its parts indeed ,this potential and this kinetic corrélations.The constants are fascinatings.

god luck,all the best

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Author Branko L Zivlak wrote on Feb. 20, 2017 @ 10:07 GMT
Hello Mr Dufourny,

Thanks, but no correlation in the essay. Everything is deterministic.

Please read the comments of Colin Walker.

Regards,

Branko



Steve Dufourny replied on Feb. 20, 2017 @ 19:09 GMT
Thanks Mr Zivlak,I am understanding indeed.The determinism is important about the causalities,that permits to predict in function of past analyses and causalities indeed on this time line.The prédictions, so if all is deterministic respecting the postulates,are determinsitic in logic.The universe follows this deterministic rationality.

Best

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Alexander M. Ilyanok wrote on Feb. 21, 2017 @ 11:59 GMT
Dear Mr. Branko L Zivlak

I read your essay with pleasure, I found many interesting things. I thought over similar ideas in my work Femtotechnologies. step i atom hydrogen. http://vixra.org/pdf/1306.0014v1.pdf

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/264346914_FEMTOTEHN
OLOGII_PERVYJ_SAG_-_ATOM_VODORODA

Thank you for comment of my essay. Indeed, you are right. Formula (1) has a typo – sure, mass should be in numerator. Then the equation (7) is valid for a system of planet.

Regards,

Alexander Ilyanok

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